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2018/09/20 04:04:48 (permalink)
Originally... as with most people... I was initially excited about a new graphics card release and almost joined countless others on the hype train to preorder. As time progressed I started actually thinking of a few different things that make this release kind of stand out and make me feel like waiting may actually be worth it here. Hear me out:
 
Nvidia was originally banking on the fact that there was going to be 'steady' demand for their GPUs so they start producing a ton of 10XX cards and even had said that there were no plans for a new card yet (clearly they could just be lying but read on).
 
The crypto market crashed and suddenly GPUs weren't in as high of demand as before and now Nvidia realizes that they themselves joined the hype train but are now stuck with countless 10XX GPUs that they need to move out of their inventory (unless they want to get a huge financial hit)
 
Nvidia realizes that they may be able to kill 2 birds with 1 stone (sort of, sell off new cards while selling a new one to some) so they hastily create/announce 20XX series cards and keep them locked under NDA because in all reality, their main selling points arent even available to anyone yet and while they do have RAW power when gaming, it genuinely cannot justify the pricetag (and they know this) so when the reviews finally come out, a ton of people realize it's freaking bogus (frame per dollar) and that the 10XX series is still more than capable. This leads to a massive influx of 'holdouts' who were going to buy 20XX cards and pushes them back to the 10XX series where they either upgrade to a different 10XX card or they buy a second 10XX card for SLI because 20XX performance is just not worth it at this pricepoint.
 
Meanwhile, there's still people willing to pay the early adopters fee with the 20XX cards and thus preorder their new product that is being released unfinished but those people will help pay the costs of fabbing this new product/technology (which eventually will lead to cheaper prices after they recoup some of their loss).
 
tl;dr - Nvidia created the outrageously priced 20XX series to push more people to 10XX series so they could sell their remaining stock and the 20XX series will drop in price after 10XX series cards are sold off.
 
Secondary thought, Nvidia has had a pretty similar release schedule for a lot of their earlier generation cards:
 
GTX 780 came out along with a Titan variant. Maybe a year later the GTX 780 Ti came out that hits/tops the Titan performance for less.
GTX 980 came out along with another Titan (X) variant. Again, maybe a year later, the 980 Ti came out that knocks on the Titan's door.
GTX 1080 came out along with yet another Titan (Xp) and again, a GTX 1080 Ti came out that was effectively a Titan Xp but cheaper which led to pissed off customers so Nvidia refreshed the Titan X to make it ever so slightly better.
 
Now we are here at the RTX series. We know that Titan is no longer a gaming product... so wouldnt it make sense that the RTX 2080 has been released and the current RTX 2080 Ti is actually this generations Titan (seeing as it's even the same price). If this is true, and we were to follow patterns, that means Nvidia would release a "same-generation King" within a year. This would then pretty much be the 2090 Ti or whatever but it would actually be this generations "real Ti" since we technically got the 2080 and the new Titan like every other release in the last 8 years or whatever. This 2090Ti would then be better performance than the 2080Ti, would push the 2080Ti down to the 'normal' Ti price point of around 800 bucks and this new 2090Ti would be 1200 bucks but would undoubtably be the king.
 
Maybe i'm overthinking things but i feel really underwhelmed by 20XX launch and Im hoping that holding out for the next release is going to be worth it instead of jumping on this bandwagon so early.

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    GTXJackBauer
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    Re: 20XX release cycle thoughts, maybe we should wait... 2018/09/20 04:33:47 (permalink)
    I agree, that's why I've seen so many talk about getting the 10xx series.  It's obvious this was their goal just the way they did this whole odd awful launch and from previous statements about the million they had in stock because of the mining craze that ended up biting them in the rear.  They took the gamble and lost but not quite yet cause they want all the do dos to do the bidding for them.  Grab as many 10xx series GPUs as possible.  It's very possible they might lower the MSRP of the 20xx series where the 10xx are currently sitting, basically at their original MSRP. 
     
    We shall see as I'll be holding off unfortunately AGAIN.  I could get the bug and grab a 2080 Ti but I'll do my best holding back.  If I see or hear any rumors that look good within the next 6-8 months at the most, I could hold off till than.
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    Re: 20XX release cycle thoughts, maybe we should wait... 2018/09/20 09:35:15 (permalink)
    I would like to think they will still make Titans and i will probably wait for that to see if it is a worthy upgrade for me to do. Currently i don't feel like buying a 2080, just seems like a bad upgrade for me. I would like to figure out a way to put my V on water and really push it. Thus far its been all stock.

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    Re: 20XX release cycle thoughts, maybe we should wait... 2018/09/20 09:46:25 (permalink)
    Or maybe your hypothetical 2090Ti will come out but cost $1600. and the current 20xx series remain at the prices they are.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: 20XX release cycle thoughts, maybe we should wait... 2018/09/20 09:58:16 (permalink)
    We (family and I) will not give NVidia anymore money.  We wait until 2020 when Intel has something to compete (hopefully).

     
     
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    Re: 20XX release cycle thoughts, maybe we should wait... 2018/09/20 10:52:00 (permalink)
    I am with you on the GPU's coming from Intel, it is time for a real company that can stand next to Nvidia. Cross fingers :)
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    Re: 20XX release cycle thoughts, maybe we should wait... 2018/09/20 12:59:42 (permalink)
    I'll be holing off also to see how things play out. My 1080 TI is still powerful enough for my gaming needs and I can't justify the high price of the 2080TI. Hopefully once 10xx car stock runs low/out these card will drop even a little. 


     
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