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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/08/29 18:28:45 (permalink)
Oops, stupid phone.
Yeah, they aren't doing billions of rays. They are using an algorithm to reduce the complexity. It looks good in games and I'm sure it has some scientific value even if folding proteins isn't it.
Certainly the revised 'cuda" cores (split fp and int), rt cores and tensor cores could have awesome application to boinc projects.
I hope the integer/floating point split does provide the 30 to 50 percent improvement in cuda performance. I wish I could afford one to try out.


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/08/30 14:09:32 (permalink)
^ I'm right there on the affording statement. I'd GLADLY put one of them through it's paces for someone, purely for the scientific value. ;-) I mean, you can play games scientifically, right?
 
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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/08/31 04:55:27 (permalink)
Well I am going to get a 2080TI, we will see how it goes.  Plan is move 1 1080TI into living room to replace 1070 Folding.  So living room will have 1080TI and 1080 Folding and 2080TI and 1080TI in my main rig.


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/08/31 07:03:04 (permalink)
My plan:  Code Name: RTX project  
 
Dos EVGA 2080Ti are inbound on release (EVGA directly & Amazon)
 
NVLink - waiting for EVGA version
 
Water blocks - waiting on EK - (will evaluate the competition)
 
 

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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/08/31 20:50:07 (permalink)
Cool GTXMy plan:  Code Name: RTX project  
Dos EVGA 2080Ti are inbound on release (EVGA directly & Amazon)
NVLink - waiting for EVGA version
Water blocks - waiting on EK - (will evaluate the competition)

 
wow, all in right out of the gate... i honestly need the crypto market to stop falling every month before i can justify any expenditures. that and i honestly do not think the non RT tasks are going to be that substantially faster than a 1080ti to justify the cost. though still waiting no actual reviews before that is a factual statement or woeful ignorance.





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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/09/14 17:45:02 (permalink)
I am hedging that these new 2080 Ti will run equal to or Better than my Titan Xp

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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/09/15 01:06:54 (permalink)
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I am hedging that these new 2080 Ti will run equal to or Better than my Titan Xp


They are saying that the 2080 if faster than Titan XP in some leaked 3D mark scores.


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/09/16 00:43:10 (permalink)
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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/09/19 14:48:13 (permalink)
Looks like a solid 20 percent increase for folding per Anandtech.com .


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/09/19 15:03:17 (permalink)
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Looks like a solid 20 percent increase for folding per Anandtech.com .



It's a nice increase and good to see that as a benchmark that they tested.

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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/09/19 18:36:49 (permalink)
 
 
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Looks like a solid 20 percent increase for folding per Anandtech.com .



 
20% better than what ?

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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/09/19 20:35:04 (permalink)
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Looks like a solid 20 percent increase for folding per Anandtech.com .



 
20% better than what ?


Probably comparing the 2080ti to the 1080ti
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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/09/19 20:50:58 (permalink)
Here's the chart
 

 
What I want to know is the kW/hr ratings as well.  If they managed to make the power usage stay in line or even drop a little, I'll gladly start saving directly to an upgrade or two. However, if the electrical costs go up with the power, it's not the right time to jump, for me.
 
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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/09/20 08:18:59 (permalink)
Someone posted it's about 25W higher than a 1080Ti.


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/09/20 16:36:45 (permalink)
yea, i too have seen power usage was higher than the 10 series, but not much. so the ratio is really just the $ to PPD and as it stands up to ~20% higher ppd for ~50% higher costs is not very appealing. the titan V almost has better ratios than the 2080ti
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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/10/13 18:35:06 (permalink)
My 2080 Ti on Air ---> PPD improvement more like ~ 54% better than my 1080Ti FTW3  Hybrid
 
Based on my 2080 Ti getting ~ 2Million PPD & my 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrids getting ~ 1.3 Million PPD --> as always WU do matter



Can you Guess when the EVGA 2080Ti Ultra started Folding ?



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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/10/14 04:43:54 (permalink)
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Can you Guess when the EVGA 2080Ti Ultra started Folding ?




That image reminds me of something,,,
 
 


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/10/14 07:13:24 (permalink)
Sweet real world results. I'm liking it a lot. Feeling like next year I'm getting a new GPU.


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/10/14 09:10:10 (permalink)
50% improved PPD for %50 increased cost make the 2080 ti more appealing for those who want compact performance, granted some 2080 ti are 3 slot cards so that my not be very helpful for some. though at this point with 1080 ti being sold for ~$550 used i think is the better route for most people. i just find it supper hard to justify a single GPU cost of $1,200+ for F@H when the majority of the cost comes from additional hardware that will potentially never be used. i just really hope that the GTX 20xx series cards are more reasonable in price with solid performance gains.


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/10/14 18:41:59 (permalink)
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50% improved PPD for %50 increased cost make the 2080 ti more appealing for those who want compact performance, granted some 2080 ti are 3 slot cards so that my not be very helpful for some. though at this point with 1080 ti being sold for ~$550 used i think is the better route for most people. i just find it supper hard to justify a single GPU cost of $1,200+ for F@H when the majority of the cost comes from additional hardware that will potentially never be used. i just really hope that the GTX 20xx series cards are more reasonable in price with solid performance gains.

Yeah, the price does suck. I'm of course leveraging EVGA bucks, but primarily my interest is also in gaming and video transcoding. So in combination with the folding performance it makes sense.

Did you see all the overclockers noting that Water cooling just doesn't help Turing very much? Seems they are very power limited at the high end.


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/10/14 19:19:36 (permalink)
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50% improved PPD for %50 increased cost make the 2080 ti more appealing for those who want compact performance, granted some 2080 ti are 3 slot cards so that my not be very helpful for some. though at this point with 1080 ti being sold for ~$550 used i think is the better route for most people. i just find it supper hard to justify a single GPU cost of $1,200+ for F@H when the majority of the cost comes from additional hardware that will potentially never be used. i just really hope that the GTX 20xx series cards are more reasonable in price with solid performance gains.

Yeah, the price does suck. I'm of course leveraging EVGA bucks, but primarily my interest is also in gaming and video transcoding. So in combination with the folding performance it makes sense.

Did you see all the overclockers noting that Water cooling just doesn't help Turing very much? Seems they are very power limited at the high end.



I kept my numbers very conservative (regards to % improvement)
 
With 8 GPU over several PCs its just not possible to get the actual real world PPD per GPU - at least I'm not setup to mine that data.

So I monitor what is displayed from time to time on the Advance Control panel

The WU are also a large variable in this equation - quite the wild card actually
 
I've seen the 2080Ti (s)  hit between 1.85 M and 2.40 M depending on the WU & its only been a 5 day sample for one of the cards
 
 

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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/10/14 20:21:24 (permalink)
you could make a temp testing account for just folding with 2080 ti's to get more accurate avgs.


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/10/14 20:54:22 (permalink)
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you could make a temp testing account for just folding with 2080 ti's to get more accurate avgs.



I had wondered if I could somehow make sub-teams --> funnel all points to CoolGTX with Team EVGA
 
While each PC was a "team member" under "CoolGTX" ---> Just like we are members of Team EVGA and can track our results

Thinking boy that would make it easier to see each PC's true output, even if they have several GPUs


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/10/15 10:30:49 (permalink)
you can do something similar with different paskeys for the same username. though you will have to use stanfords stats for passkey stats instead of username stats.
 


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Re: RTX could be intesting. 2018/10/19 11:37:28 (permalink)
OK confirmation of ~ 2 Million PPD --- second card answers that question
 
the small drop on 10.14 = the down time to benchmark new card solo & NVLink, before Folding with both  EVGA 2080Ti - no NVLink 

before -------EVGA 2080 Ti =  ~ 7.5 M PPD (Baseline PPD) - across 6 GPU on 3 PC
 
added first -- EVGA 2080 Ti =  ~ 9.7 M PPD  (Base +2.2 M PPD) - across 7 GPU on 4 PC

added second EVGA 2080 Ti = ~11.9 M PPD  (Base +4.4 M PPD) - across 8 GPU on 4 PC


 
 
 

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