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2018/07/12 22:23:16 (permalink)
I recently got a 1070 Ti SC GAMING Black Edition.  When I am playing games it runs up at around 83C (rarely 1-2C hotter), despite my fan profile having the fans at 50% (don't really want to go higher since my computer sits on my desk right next to me and any higher it becomes quite audible and annoying).
 
I have no overclock on it and I have it in a Corsair 250D case... So the GPU sits flush with the open side vent meaning constant fresh cool air intake from the fans... And I have an AIO CPU cooler, so there is nothing behind the GPU, just open space to the other side, which has two 120mm fan as exhaust out of the case.  Its also quite cool in the room I have my computer in.
 
Given all of that, why are my temps so high?  I came from a 970 SSC, and even with its factory overclock and an even lesser fan profile (since the fans on that one were even louder), the highest my temps got there were ~75C.
 
Other parts in case that has any bearing on it: 6600k @ Stock, 16GB Corsair DDR4 @ 2133, EVGA Stinger Z170 mITX, EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3
 
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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/12 22:37:48 (permalink)
    squeets 
    Given all of that, why are my temps so high? 

    The 1070 ti has 768 more cuda cores than the 970. More cores = more heat.
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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/12 22:49:24 (permalink)
    Where is the AIO mounted, across the back above the IO?
     
    Fans total? (besides the GPU fans) - the one big intake on the front of the case, 2 x 120mm exhaust and 1(2?) exhaust on the AIO?
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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/12 22:56:25 (permalink)
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    Where is the AIO mounted, across the back above the IO?
     
    Fans total? (besides the GPU fans) - the one big intake on the front of the case, 2 x 120mm exhaust and 1(2?) exhaust on the AIO?


    One front 120mm intake attached to the AOI heatsink (intake since I figured it wouldn't be very efficient to be "cooling" the AIO heatsink with the hot air blowing straight off the GPU), the whole array sits down and the to the side of the GPU, flush with the front of the case.  And then the two side 120mm exhausts.  I have no fan on the back of the case.
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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/12 23:05:16 (permalink)
    Even though the GPU is in front of the side grill can it really be counted as intake fans?
    If not then you have 1 x 120 drawing air (or pushing?) through and AIO radiator and 2 exhaust fans.
    With the rear being open are you sure you don't just have air being pulled in through the back and right on out via the side fans and having a dead flow area around the GPU?
    You almost need to figure out how to do a smoke test to see how the air is flowing
    Also perhaps change the thermal paste on the GPU for some Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/12 23:09:41 (permalink)
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    Even though the GPU is in front of the side grill can it really be counted as intake fans?
    If not then you have 1 x 120 drawing air (or pushing?) through and AIO radiator and 2 exhaust fans.
    With the rear being open are you sure you don't just have air being pulled in through the back and right on out via the side fans and having a dead flow area around the GPU?
    You almost need to figure out how to do a smoke test to see how the air is flowing
    Also perhaps change the thermal paste on the GPU for some Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut


    Isn't that how these coolers work?  They pull air straight towards them through the fans and exhaust out all the sides into the case?  And if that's how that works, then the fans are, as I said, flush with the side grill, they are pulling air in from the vent.
     
    Here is a quick little paint of my fans and their airflow:

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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/12 23:21:51 (permalink)
    With the back (as pictured below) there is the potential for air to enter the case from the upper grill area.
    Just for testing put some something over the upper grill and see how it affects temperatures.
     
    Look at the mods rigs section and you will see that a good 90%+ of the systems have the fans on the coolers drawing air from inside the case and exhausting through the radiators outwards.
     
    With your case you should have an unobstructed fan on the front (like it came from the factory) and your AIO on the grill on the rear blowing out. The air temperature inside the case is not enough to affect your cooling efficiency for your CPU but dumping the heat from the radiator into the case can affect other components
     

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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/12 23:37:48 (permalink)
    After looking at Corsairs product page I take it that grill area on the back above the IO takes 80mm fans? https://www.corsair.com/u...C-Case/p/CC-9011047-WW
     
    The pictures they have they show putting your radiator on the exhaust fans on the side panel (opposite the GPU)
     
    I am used to looking at Lian Li product pages, other then the pictures the Corsair site doesn't really tell you crap about fan mount sizes and placements
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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/13 03:47:48 (permalink)
    Personally, I would never be happy until I replaced the thermal paste on the GPU, as mentioned above, to rule that out..It may have been misapplied at the factory, and it wouldn't be the first time..Although there's nothing really 'wrong' with 83C under load, I would definately try to make it better.

    Removing the heatsink/fan assembly (four screws is all, I think) and applying thermal paste is easy to do and won't void the warranty as long as you don't damage the card in some way.

    See also: Why does my EVGA graphics card run hot? in the EVGA FAQs for more information.
     
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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/13 07:41:28 (permalink)
    I'f 50% is all you can bare do you at least have it st a static 50% all the time?? Does the card cook to 80c and then crank to 50%?

    Get the fans turning before it gets up in temps may help some.

    Also seems like it would be easy enough to remove the side panel and test to see if theres any difference.

    Gaming if I was on an air cooler card. I'd have the fans cranked to max I could bare and that would be atleast 75-80% if not 100%.

    Also room temp?

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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/13 08:48:57 (permalink)
    This is always going to be an issue trying to cool a GPU in a tiny case. The trade offs are always noise versus temps because you do not have the square inches to use larger quieter fans.
    So you compromise. You basically give up some performance for less size. You could also reduce the power target using Precision. You might also trying experiment with the 'voltage curve' method to see if you can undervolt your GPU for the same clocks but lower temps. You'll have to experiment.

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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/16 20:51:08 (permalink)
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    I recently got a 1070 Ti SC GAMING Black Edition.  When I am playing games it runs up at around 83C (rarely 1-2C hotter), despite my fan profile having the fans at 50% (don't really want to go higher since my computer sits on my desk right next to me and any higher it becomes quite audible and annoying).
     
    I have no overclock on it and I have it in a Corsair 250D case... So the GPU sits flush with the open side vent meaning constant fresh cool air intake from the fans... And I have an AIO CPU cooler, so there is nothing behind the GPU, just open space to the other side, which has two 120mm fan as exhaust out of the case.  Its also quite cool in the room I have my computer in.
     
    Given all of that, why are my temps so high?  I came from a 970 SSC, and even with its factory overclock and an even lesser fan profile (since the fans on that one were even louder), the highest my temps got there were ~75C.
     
    Other parts in case that has any bearing on it: 6600k @ Stock, 16GB Corsair DDR4 @ 2133, EVGA Stinger Z170 mITX, EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3
     
    Thanks


    I just purchased the exact same card. I use the OC precision to spin up my fans to 20% at 30C on startup, and then bump up the speed 20% for every 10 deg C after that, so 40% @ 40 C and 60% at 50C and so on. I also added a high airflow (90 CFM) 120MM fan inside my case with a custom mount I made, blowing directly over the graphics card toward the back of the case. The fan is about 1.5 in from the end of the card. My temps stay in the 40-50C range after I put the OC software temp target down to 60C instead the preset of 80C. I don't want an oven in my study, LOL. And I have always been of the mind that keeping the temps lower increases the lifespan of all my components. Just my 2 cents worth.
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    Re: GTX 1070 Ti, high temps? 2018/07/16 21:44:05 (permalink)
    A new case with better dimensions and without all the LED gizmos is the NZXT 410 Phantom.  I removed all unnecessary HDD bins as I use SSD only. This gives you a lot of extra room.
     
    I have used this case for two builds and it has just enough room for the Noctua D15 Air Cooler (a monster triple fan cooler) which creates a hurricane in the case (wonderfully cool).  Plus the included three case fans, this case is super nice for the price.
     
    I have my 1070Ti overclocked on W10 Startup. I used the PrecisionX through my Steam Account.  This version of PrecisionX is much nicer than the standalone version.
     
    GPU idle temp: 30c | super load temp 78c
     
    You can manually adjust it or simply run the OC Scan Test (I used the OC Scan Test).
     
    These are my results with the ATX Case I mentioned above with the Noctua D15 Cooler.
     

    post edited by niceget - 2018/07/16 21:55:58
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