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2018/06/17 11:15:04 (permalink)
Not ready for a mods rig section just yet:
 
 

 
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i9-7940x - EKWB Supremacy EVO Full Copper Delided and using D3r8auer's direct die frame, Thermo Grizzly Kronaut
EVGA 1080ti FTW3 - EKWB Full cover, Thermo Grizzly Kronaut as well
 
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/06/17 11:32:51 (permalink)
    Very Nice
     
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/06/17 11:38:59 (permalink)
    Lian-Li PC-D600 is what I am going to. I will be using PETG for the final install
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/06/24 12:10:41 (permalink)
    I am really loving that EKWB cooler on the 1080ti FTW3
     
    Here is where I currently sit with it -
    MSI AB settings (with volt, power and temp sliders at max) - Core clock at +65, memory clock at +700
    Using HWiNFO64 for numbers and Superposition Benchmark 4k optimized:
    GPU Load 99%
    GPU Clock at a stable 2037 <-- this is rock solid no matter what I throw at it.
    Max temp 37c (ambient is 20-21c)
    GPU voltage max - 1.094
    GPU Max Power peaked at 325w
    Superposition Min / Max fps - 61.66 / 77.85
     
    The benchmark score I got that produced those number was 10408
     
    Note on GPU core speed - I have seen it at 2050 but generally drops to the 2037 once the temp hits 33c
     
    post edited by GGTV-Jon - 2018/07/13 00:22:04
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/06/29 15:07:15 (permalink)
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    ...using D3r8auer's direct die frame

     

     
    Why Kryonaut?  Concerned about liquid metal electrical conductivity?
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/06/29 18:39:33 (permalink)
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    ...using D3r8auer's direct die frame

     

     
    Why Kryonaut?  Concerned about liquid metal electrical conductivity?


    I kinda was but after having it up and ruining testing I am feeling like I had built a race car with great suspension and brakes then only went 3/4 of the way with tires. Going to complete it with Conductonaut
     
    I am going to leave the GPU with the Kryonaut as it is not thermal throttling.
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/06/30 11:43:33 (permalink)
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    I kinda was but after having it up and ruining testing I am feeling like I had built a race car with great suspension and brakes then only went 3/4 of the way with tires. Going to complete it with Conductonaut

     
    Complete... enough?
    https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3317-phase-change-cooler-and-novec-cooling-der8auer-phase-shift
     
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    Note on GPU core speed - I have seen it at 2050 but generally drops to the 2037 once the temp hits 30c
    ...
    I am going to leave the GPU with the Kryonaut as it is not thermal throttling.



    Technically is throttling, but not significantly.  Possible solution:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2SIrV_4-dM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvBWDTCKspg
     
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/06/30 13:57:54 (permalink)
    Nothing wrong with an open air rig, GGTV-Jon. What radiator are you running, I see at least two fans? Nice hardware!! 
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/06/30 23:56:54 (permalink)
    @geninfo the performance cap in GPU-Z reports Vreal as the limiting factor not thermo. I may have miss spoke above when I stated it dropped at 30c, I thought real thermo throttling started at 60c? Or does it start as early as 30c?
     
    @notfordman here is a picture of the radiators - EKWB: 420 CE and an 240 SE, the later is slim for clearance issues for the VRM cooler when it gets mounted in the case
     

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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/07/01 12:08:30 (permalink)
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    @geninfo the performance cap in GPU-Z reports Vreal as the limiting factor not thermo. I may have miss spoke above when I stated it dropped at 30c, I thought real thermo throttling started at 60c? Or does it start as early as 30c?
     



    Do not know when it starts, but observed thermal throttling below 60C.
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/07/13 00:33:12 (permalink)
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    @geninfo the performance cap in GPU-Z reports Vreal as the limiting factor not thermo. I may have miss spoke above when I stated it dropped at 30c, I thought real thermo throttling started at 60c? Or does it start as early as 30c?
     



    Do not know when it starts, but observed thermal throttling below 60C.




     
    Update -
    Have been messing with stuff. Finally paid attention to temps while running the Superposition 4k test. The GPU Core speed drop from 2050 to 2037 happens when the temps start to rise and reach 33c. It would have to reach 46c before the next drop to 2025 (which it never gets to 40c under load). The weird thing though is even when it does the core step right at 33c the PerfCap reason is always VReal - never thermo
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/07/13 01:05:17 (permalink)
    How do you OC the GPU? Maybe try MSI AB custom curve if you are not already doing it, to force a specific voltage. By my KPE it never actually drops below because of Vreal or the likes :/ And temperature is definitely not an issue by you.

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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/07/13 01:15:04 (permalink)
    I did mess with doing a static curv in AB last Tuesday night. With a locked 1.093v the highest GPU core clock that would hold and not lock up was 2050 and that was still under 40c (radiator fans at Max speed as I was trying to push the card for a good superposition 4k score)
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/07/13 09:30:58 (permalink)
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    I did mess with doing a static curv in AB last Tuesday night. With a locked 1.093v the highest GPU core clock that would hold and not lock up was 2050 and that was still under 40c (radiator fans at Max speed as I was trying to push the card for a good superposition 4k score)



    Have you first just raised Power and Temperature Limit and see what voltage it uses for its standard max boost clock? If not, go from there and see where you land :)
     
    E.g.
     
    1.05V 2050MHz
     
    Use that as baseline and then go up slowly but surely till it crashes, then keep the clock you had for the crash and go one voltage step above that
     
    But 2050 with a FTW3 is pretty good, it is above what is guaranteed with a KPE

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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/07/15 08:42:09 (permalink)
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    I did mess with doing a static curv in AB last Tuesday night. With a locked 1.093v the highest GPU core clock that would hold and not lock up was 2050 and that was still under 40c (radiator fans at Max speed as I was trying to push the card for a good superposition 4k score)



    Have you first just raised Power and Temperature Limit and see what voltage it uses for its standard max boost clock? If not, go from there and see where you land :)
     
    E.g.
     
    1.05V 2050MHz
     
    Use that as baseline and then go up slowly but surely till it crashes, then keep the clock you had for the crash and go one voltage step above that
     
    But 2050 with a FTW3 is pretty good, it is above what is guaranteed with a KPE




    In AB I had originally been running with the sliders for voltage, power and temp maxed and observed what the card was maxing out under load with HWiNFO64. Then I set the curve using what the max voltage that was recorded = 1.093
     
    I played around with it and the 2050 is still the max stable when running all radiator fans at max. For every day use though I just run it with a saved configuration of +52 core and +650 memory which yields a 2037-2050 core clock and an good memory boost and temps that never see 40c
    When playing Ark or BF1 I bump it to +64 core and +700 memory - still under 40c on all temps (core, memory and power/vrm) and pulling 200+watts under load
     
    Now if I could just keep the CPU that cool
    post edited by GGTV-Jon - 2018/07/15 08:46:27
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    Re: X299 Dark Teaser 2018/07/15 08:59:21 (permalink)
    Can someone answer this question?
     
    When looking at HWiNFO64 under the CPU information ( CPU[#0]: Intel Core i9-7940x: Enhanced ) there is the line "CPU Package Power"
     
    Do I multiply that number by 14 (core count) to get the total power draw?
     
    When playing something like ARK I have checked HWiNFO64 and observed it sitting at 17-20w. The highest I have recorded when pulling some Prime95 was a spike of 72.528 at 4.3ghz ( 46 ratio with 3 AVX ofset in bios = 4.3ghz) with it generally sitting at 50-60w. Temps were pushing high 80's
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