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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/23 12:32:02 (permalink)
I've updated the bios on both my elite "6797" and ftw3 hybrid the other day. Took me awhile as I was winging it. Haha. Ended up flashing both cards to the saved 6797 bios by mistake. Didn't know I had to reboot the PC to finalize the bios and kept checking with gpu-Zito read the bios and noticing it wasn't changing.

Anyways. No issues afterwards.. overclock is the same. Though i can't get the hybrid card to still overclock higher as I seem to be stuck around 1.050-60v with evga pxoc. Can't use afterburner to overclock higher either with the curve method as it will lock up instantly with a benchmark trying.. even used pxoc to set the fan at a static speed of 100% and turned it off and used afterburner to overclock the card.

I also can't get the 2 cards to click differently in sli.. normally I was able to click the one card at 2114 and the other at 2063mhz but no more.. there both synced even though I have them set for unsynced.

Might be the newer drivers seats and I should try going back to 288.71 but too lazy.

Anyways.. besides only being able to click my elite 12ghz card to 13000mhz at least I don't see any limit 1 warnings anymore!!!

That's awesome! So no more power limit 1 or voltage limit 1 going off and lowering my overclock!

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/23 12:43:59 (permalink)
Also the procedure I had to use to update the bios on my ftw3 elite 12ghz 6797 card was first update the card with the ftw3 hybrid slave bios first.. then when done with below use the .exe file to update it from the special bios giving out from our hero! Haha

Find cmd.exe file.. barried in c:\windows\wow64 folder. Make a shortcut to it on the desktop for easy of opening over and over.

Moved the nvflash folder over to the c: drive.make sure the new bios is in the nvflash folder.

Right click cmd.exe and select open as administrator.

Then type CD ..
Then again CD ..

When you see c:\ , type CD nvflash

Then you should see c:\nvflash.

Now type nvflash64 --protectmode off

When that's done type nvflash64 -6 "name of bios" and hit enter.

Will pop up asking you if you want to update the bios.. press y... if you have sli it will ask you to choose which card to update first.

Then when it says it updated the bios, reboot the PC and on the next boot open up gpu-a and check to see if the bios is now different.

You may need to reinstall the nvidia drivers afterwards.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/23 12:45:28 (permalink)
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I don't see any limit 1 warnings anymore!!!

That's awesome! So no more power limit 1 or voltage limit 1 going off and lowering my overclock!


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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/23 12:46:57 (permalink)
What's with that voltage on hybrid? Mine goes full. Sometimes precision resets voltage slider maybe that's the case? Try to reaply all overclocks.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/23 12:47:48 (permalink)
Also my son is bugging for me to give him his evga ftw3 hybrid back after playing around with SLI in my system hehe.. he's 9 and has been busy playing for night on his ps4. I need to delid my old 6700k as I'm upgrading his rig with it and I'll put the ftw3 hybrid back in his.

I'll update the thread if the hybrid or ftw3 elite feel like overclocking higher afterwards on there own as it should be easier to use afterburner with a single card.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/23 12:48:54 (permalink)
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What's with that voltage on hybrid? Mine goes full. Sometimes precision resets voltage slider maybe that's the case? Try to reaply all overclocks.


Ok will try that later on today. Thanks.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/23 13:01:40 (permalink)
Good luck ☺️ I have doscovered recently that running my primary display that is connected to igpu turned on removes micro freezes from my secondary connected to hybrid, thanks NVIDIA Optimus for that feature... I've learned that after 2.5 year of using my laptop lol.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/03/27 16:25:15 (permalink)
Thanks for the detailed instructions on the update Sajin!  Worked like a charm on my 6796!  
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/03/27 16:32:12 (permalink)

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/06 01:15:12 (permalink)
So is this thread pretty much dead already? Has the 117% problem been fixed already?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/06 04:29:52 (permalink)
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So is this thread pretty much dead already? Has the 117% problem been fixed already?




It seems to be fixed.
 
The unofficial/official bios is in the first post along with the instructions on how to flash it.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/06 08:09:41 (permalink)
Dead Thread? Yes, but never forgotten.
It's not fixed until EVGA makes it official. The unoffical bios in the OP is exactly that, unofficial, and does not work with all FTW3 cards without compromises.
My service ticket response is "we are working on it", and no further response in 3 months.
This is the worst case of dropping the ball by EVGA that I can recall.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/06 20:20:04 (permalink)
Hi,
I had ZERO luck with the slave bios
It seemed very unstable even though temperatures were very low mid 40c..
Did EVGA just throw this slave bios together without testing it
And if so why do the master bios work well :confused:
Don't see a point in dual bios if the second is total junk
Although the voltage limit was not the issue I had on it.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/07 17:45:08 (permalink)
I'm still here waiting for an OFFICIAL BIOS from EVGA! 

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/08 06:27:10 (permalink)
Hi,
I'm kind of wondering why this question is marked answered :)

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/08 07:12:43 (permalink)
Because a bios has been provided indirectly by EVGA through Kingpin. Some people are waiting for an official release but it's not going to happen. Nvidia has certain regulations that EVGA cannot directly circumvent. I'm not sticking up for EVGA, just being realistic.  The unofficial bios provided seems to have fixed the power limit issue I was having. I can't speak for others but by the lack of traffic in this thread I suspect many others are satisfied with the solution provided.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/08 08:07:42 (permalink)
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Because a bios has been provided indirectly by EVGA through Kingpin. Some people are waiting for an official release but it's not going to happen. Nvidia has certain regulations that EVGA cannot directly circumvent. I'm not sticking up for EVGA, just being realistic.  The unofficial bios provided seems to have fixed the power limit issue I was having. I can't speak for others but by the lack of traffic in this thread I suspect many others are satisfied with the solution provided.


While I appreciate your sentiment, it's not so easy to let them off the hook. Yes, the Kingpin bios have worked for many, but the fact remains we paid for a premium card that was gimped from the get-go, and not performing as advertised. EVGA should have spent a bit more time working out these kinks before releasing to the public, especially if changes can't be made in the aftermarket. Nvidia should work with partners to help correct these issues, but EVGA understood their rules/restrictions before releasing the cards. Still, EVGA should have recourse, but they don't.
 
The whole mess is troubling in that we all should consider carefully spending a premium for aftermarket cards. The lesson learned here is we are better off getting a reference card because Nvidia doesn't fully support the aftermarket one. I can't imagine any of the board partners being happy about this. Nvidia & EVGA pointing fingers at each other does nothing for me except disappoint.
 
To be clear: I have no issues playing my games at 2560 x 1440 and maxed quality with respectable framerates. If I were attempting 4k 60-100hrz, it would depend on the game or what eye candy I can omit. In this situation, getting the most out of your card becomes essential, and where they have failed.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/08 08:20:31 (permalink)
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Because a bios has been provided indirectly by EVGA through Kingpin. Some people are waiting for an official release but it's not going to happen. Nvidia has certain regulations that EVGA cannot directly circumvent. I'm not sticking up for EVGA, just being realistic.  The unofficial bios provided seems to have fixed the power limit issue I was having. I can't speak for others but by the lack of traffic in this thread I suspect many others are satisfied with the solution provided.


While I appreciate your sentiment, it's not so easy to let them off the hook. Yes, the Kingpin bios have worked for many, but the fact remains we paid for a premium card that was gimped from the get-go, and not performing as advertised. EVGA should have spent a bit more time working out these kinks before releasing to the public, especially if changes can't be made in the aftermarket. Nvidia should work with partners to help correct these issues, but EVGA understood their rules/restrictions before releasing the cards. Still, EVGA should have recourse, but they don't.
 
The whole mess is troubling in that we all should consider carefully spending a premium for aftermarket cards. The lesson learned here is we are better off getting a reference card because Nvidia doesn't fully support the aftermarket one. I can't imagine any of the board partners being happy about this. Nvidia & EVGA pointing fingers at each other does nothing for me except disappoint.
 
To be clear: I have no issues playing my games at 2560 x 1440 and maxed quality with respectable framerates. If I were attempting 4k 60-100hrz, it would depend on the game or what eye candy I can omit. In this situation, getting the most out of your card becomes essential, and where they have failed.




I agree with everything you said. Just being realistic. EVGA is at fault here, no question, but they could have easily done nothing and simply pointed a finger at Nvidia without providing an unofficial fix. We got something that seems to work. I'm happy we did just not happy how it was provided. 

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/08 08:52:08 (permalink)
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I agree with everything you said. Just being realistic. EVGA is at fault here, no question, but they could have easily done nothing and simply pointed a finger at Nvidia without providing an unofficial fix. We got something that seems to work. I'm happy we did just not happy how it was provided. 


I agree EVGA deserves an A+ for effort. Sorry to be so pessimistic. In my defense, the 1k I spent was hard earned.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/11 08:59:24 (permalink)
Argh. They really need to compensate us here! We need to build traction against this stupid company!
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/11 09:42:39 (permalink)
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Argh. They really need to compensate us here! We need to build traction against this stupid company!

Start bombing reddit, facebook, youtube, and tech sites. Increase visibility.

I reported the first post to EVGA moderators due to moderator abuse.
A moderator should not paste a link to an unofficial BIOS and then edit the title to say that the issue is fixed. It is the OP's responsibility to determine whether or not they are satisfied with the resolution posted in the thread. A moderator should never feel free to hack up someone else's perfectly legitimate TOS-abiding post to such a degree in the first place!

Please remove Sajin's edits from the OP, change the title back, and post Sajin's unofficial solution in the thread as a response; where it belongs!


If the moderator's excuse is that they didn't want the solution they were advocating to be lost in the thread, fine, create a NEW thread announcing the unofficial solution and sticky it. ... Just like EVERY other EVGA employee does. I know moderators are not employees, but that shouldn't allow them the hack up other peoples' perfectly legitimate posts just to advocate something that they think is gospel. Moderators are not "above the law". I think that being such an EVGA fanboi has blinded Sajin's judgement. Please correct this.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/11 15:06:16 (permalink)
If the op has a problem with the edits I made to the op please let me know.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/11 15:50:31 (permalink)
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If the op has a problem with the edits I made to the op please let me know.


You should have asked first. You had NO RIGHT! You need to get his permission TO LEAVE IT. No permission? Change it back!

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Mod abuse? lol. The fix needs to be listed in the op, so people won't continually ask what is the fix to the problem. If I would have posted the fix as a reply in the thread it would have gotten buried in the thread by now.
Having the fix listed in the op solves two issues...

#1 Keeps people from continually asking how do I fix the problem due to the fix post being buried in the thread.
#2 Keeps people from having to search all the pages of the

Like I said.... sticky. Do the right thing man. Come on! Don't play dumb.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/11 16:00:00 (permalink)
I'll definitely change it if the op has a problem with it.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/11 16:05:48 (permalink)
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I'll definitely change it if the op has a problem with it.

I have a problem with it. Other people have a problem with it. The OP is long gone. That is the worst stance you could take. Just because the author has no voice, opinion, or stake in the matter doesn't mean that this community has no voice, opinion, or stake in the matter. Quit making excuses. You never had permission to edit the OP in the first place. It is not a matter of discussion. You have exceeded the bounds of your role far beyond what anyone here would consider acceptable. If you quit looking it as a means to an end and start looking at it at face value, you altered someone's perfectly legitimate post with the sole intent of disseminating your view in a way no other person on this forum is able. It is an egregious abuse of power which no one should stand for. If the solution you present is so important to you, split your view from the OP, create a new thread, and sticky it. That's what EVGA employees and responsible representatives of EVGA do.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/11 16:07:01 (permalink)
Guess we will let evga decide then.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/11 16:19:23 (permalink)
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I have a problem with it. Other people have a problem with it. The OP is long gone. That is the worst stance you could take. Just because the author has no voice, opinion, or stake in the matter doesn't mean that this community has no voice, opinion, or stake in the matter. Quit making excuses. You never had permission to edit the OP in the first place. It is not a matter of discussion. You have exceeded the bounds of your role far beyond what anyone here would consider acceptable. If you quit looking it as a means to an end and start looking at it at face value, you altered someone's perfectly legitimate post with the sole intent of disseminating your view in a way no other person on this forum is able. It is an egregious abuse of power which no one should stand for. If the solution you present is so important to you, split your view from the OP, create a new thread, and sticky it. That's what EVGA employees and responsible representatives of EVGA do.





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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/11 16:20:39 (permalink)
Sajin
I'll definitely change it if the op has a problem with it.


Hi,
Thank you for putting it in the op
My bad it took this long to notice it there :o
It works is the important thing :thumbsup:

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/11 16:23:26 (permalink)
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Sajin
I'll definitely change it if the op has a problem with it.


Hi,
Thank you for putting it in the op
My bad it took this long to notice it there :o
It works is the important thing :thumbsup:


No problem. My edits were intended to help others. Glad they helped you. 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/06/11 16:25:21 (permalink)
This thread was also pinned at one time by me when I made the edits to the op. EVGA unpinned it for some reason.
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