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redleader00
I'm way more angry about Intel's spectre/meltdown issues and all I'm getting is patches that downgrade the performance.
Bit offtopic but I believe this is a result of a job that had to be done quickly, it was all rushed.
They promised they would decrease the impact of the patches overtime, but I'm not sure how that is going to work out.
Me myself I haven't even installed the patches for both the faults, and my motherboard doesn't even have a new bios (I'm on 2012 version)
The cure for the problems turned out to be worse than the problem itself on Windows 7 & 2008 R2, and they had to fix that in the March patch.
The initial patches caused a kernel memory leak that allowed easy access and allowed to read gigabytes of memory per second, while meltdown required a lot more hard work to get what you wanted.
So people felt safer with a patch that introduced a kernel leak like this that lasted for 2 months...
Currently too lazy to update, the risk of being affected is so much lower than the circus these patches introduce(d).
If I were to patch it, it wouldn't be on hardware level.
AMD doesn't come off clean either, theres been several leaks that impacted all sorts of architectures, but Meltdown was the biggest flaw yet.
I was more angry when I thought What if they force us to install patches with some updates or something we can't avoid.
I don't use last Chipset driver, last BIOS or updates for fix Meltdown.
I mean no one have reason to lose time and look in my PC installation drives, movies, and games,
other things are on external storage.
Companies who have reason to be worry should complain, not me.
But if they are silent, why I to scream.
It's bad if they cripple us performance, special number we talk 10-20% but for now if we avoid patches we are OK.
You are completely right, patches could cause mess to people who never had single problem with PC years.
Than story... last Generations will survive smaller impact on performance than older...
That's worse in hole story, Skylake-X, Kaby Lake-X and Coffe Lake models are sold with full knowledge about bug and parall with worry from Intel employers what to do because turbulence in next months.
They were full prepared for worse scenario, they were ready on compensation, only customers surprise them with reaction.
That was obvious, Intel even say they were shocked with patience of companies...
Off course they are shocked when companies not operate with their money and charge products and service much more than worth. Why NVIDIA charge Professional GPU 9.000 USD. 9.000 USD. Next will be 13.000 USD untill market collapse one day.
In some moment over night will some new console become popular, AMD will launch some cheap cheap chips for Console, equip them with good processor, memory, and you will need 8-10.000$ PC to reach performance of console worth 500-600$.
Miners will be customers some little time more and than in one moment GPU worth 2000-3000 USD will cost 250-300$.