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2018/05/17 14:06:19 (permalink)
Interesting article. Soon as nVidia drops the 11 series, these worries will disappear.
 
https://verifiedtopics.com/nvidia-braces-itself-for-rough-ride-following-lower-demand-from-miners/
 
I found this guy on youtube talking about this and thought he has a pretty good take on it.
 
https://youtu.be/qNIxfxVf4pA?t=4m9s
 
 
 
 
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/17 19:18:13 (permalink)
    Fake news 
     
     
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/17 22:04:52 (permalink)
     I don't agree, Nvidia had record braking earnings this last quarter surpassing expectations in every platform even in AI development. Nvidia is bigger then mining. I'm not worried about a drop in mining sales, I'm not even worried about the 11 series.

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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/17 22:29:30 (permalink)
    I am not really worried since literally they don’t seem to have increased supply much to account for miners which is why people complained the cards are impossible to find in stock for several months now. I don’t see us seeing a flood of unsold cards other then probably people trying to unload what they bought on eBay.

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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/17 22:47:39 (permalink)
     
    I'm sure Nvidia doesn't need to worry about profits. They make a lot of money.   

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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/17 23:15:13 (permalink)
     
    but.. but.. I thought miners had no impact on NVidia sales and product availability. 
     

     


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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 01:23:03 (permalink)
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    but.. but.. I thought miners had no impact on NVidia sales and product availability. 
     


    Give it a rest dude. Go troll somewhere else. Miners have had a very small impact. Research the statistics for yourself. Until you are ready to do the work and stop following every ill-informed tabloid news story from sources as ill-informed as yourself, go find some other topic to troll. (TOS addressed Cool GTX)

    It's quite obvious that you have no interest in being informed and are instead just trying to flame since you post that nonsense flamebait image in spam posts every couple of days; but then when someone challenges you with the facts, you disappear to some other mining-related thread to start the trolling all over again. There is no sense in repeating the paragraphs of facts explaining why you are wrong; just look in the wreckage of any of the threads you have already (TOS addressed Cool GTX) on.

    Find a mining thread, and there's Nereus with one sentence and a giant stupid image.

    No one said that miners have had no impact. Every sale has an impact. But the fact of the matter is that many fewer NVIDIA cards were sold to miners compared to gamers, enterprise, workstation, or productivity. So, give it a rest dude. Change your image to say gamers or datacenters or something.
     
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 02:50:00 (permalink)
    Nvidia will just go to where it was before the mining boom, which is still in a very good place.



     
     
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 03:29:32 (permalink)
    ty_ger, no need for the personal insults.  

    I believe miners played a role but I believe they can't prove on how many, maybe a rough estimate at best as all you can do is see these massive ridiculous mining farms in ones home via youtube and the likes.  Let's not forget, that doesn't include businesses and firms.  One person owning 20 GPUs is like 20 different households having them in comparison.  While many had different quantities, they still affected the availability but that's not to say that the mfger's didn't play a role since they might have held back on restocking because cost would be higher and they wouldn't make as much, let alone risk making them and being stuck with them say if the mining craze decreased substantially as we are seeing now.

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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 03:50:08 (permalink)
     
    LOL, dude if miners weren't so incredibly defensive about it I wouldn't be poking fun at you. Your response here is just another example of the defensiveness - which, as we all know, always works when trying to refute someone else's statement... lol.
     
    Hell, in another thread I even said that if I was a miner my response would be, "yeah, we miners bought a huge number of GPU's and the supply couldn't meet the increased demand. So what?" Not your fault NVidia couldn't keep up. See how easy that is? Why is making such a basic and obvious statement such a huge problem for you guys, particularly when even NVidia itself agrees with it! Being a miner doesn't make you a bad person lol, but apparently you feel bad about it, and that's ok too (I guess it's the gamer in you warring with the miner in you), but the heavy denial and defensiveness in the face of supporting statements even from NVidia itself just makes you a target for ridicule. Don't fight it dude, it's bigger than the both of us.. lol.
     
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 06:57:14 (permalink)
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 08:42:44 (permalink)
    I would say they are fine...Miners allowed them to hike GPU prices up a few hundred bucks...so i would expect the 11x series cards to be a few hundred more than the 10x at release...so PLENTY of profit :)

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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 09:02:38 (permalink)
    Miners are not going to keep paying the inflated video card prices, the ROI just isn't there right now. With current video card prices, if you don't already have a video card to mine with, you're better off straight up buying Bitcoin right now then buying a video card. This is why prices have come down and cards are in stock. Even miners going from the 10 series to the 11 series may be hard for them to justify. There are ASIC miners coming out that will be taking a big bite into video card profits. I think a lot of people, miners and gamers are in a hold pattern right now. The prices of cards will go up due to memory prices, but I don't see nVidia raising the prices based off of what happened during the mining craze late last year, early this year.
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 09:18:44 (permalink)
    Yep, this never happened before... So it's definitely miners who drove supply down and prices high.

    On a good note, God said miners aren't allowed in heaven, so....
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 10:14:38 (permalink)
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 11:42:46 (permalink)
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    Yep, this never happened before... So it's definitely miners who drove supply down and prices high.

    On a good note, God said miners aren't allowed in heaven, so....

    Darn....
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    Dont think miners or low stock had anything to do with it...must have been Trump.

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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 11:58:51 (permalink)
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    LOL, dude if miners weren't so incredibly defensive about it I wouldn't be poking fun at you. Your response here is just another example of the defensiveness - which, as we all know, always works when trying to refute someone else's statement... lol.
     
    Hell, in another thread I even said that if I was a miner my response would be, "yeah, we miners bought a huge number of GPU's and the supply couldn't meet the increased demand. So what?" Not your fault NVidia couldn't keep up. See how easy that is? Why is making such a basic and obvious statement such a huge problem for you guys, particularly when even NVidia itself agrees with it! Being a miner doesn't make you a bad person lol, but apparently you feel bad about it, and that's ok too (I guess it's the gamer in you warring with the miner in you), but the heavy denial and defensiveness in the face of supporting statements even from NVidia itself just makes you a target for ridicule. Don't fight it dude, it's bigger than the both of us.. lol.
     
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    I would hardly say that I am a miner, but ok. I have one laptop mining sometimes. I am actually quite against mining on principle, but also think it is very unfair for one group of people to blame another group of people when they are unable to buy the product they desire; especially when the numbers, third party research, and usage statistics don't support that belief. I think that cryptocurrency has so far been wasteful and bad for society overall. Happy Saturday from the big sandy suck on the other side of the world!
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/18 13:02:01 (permalink)
    I'm not anti cryptocurrency in any form or fashion as long as it stays a decentralized currency with zero control by any country. Honestly, we need this.
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/19 12:06:47 (permalink)
    what a crazy past 6 months it has been, it was a perfect storm and nvidia came out a winner in profits, which im kinda torn about. on one hand it was a whole lot of suck that prices got so jacked up but on the other as someone that has nvidia stock i am happy as their stock price has been very bullish, made my retirement account look real good. now if they can keep up with demand from here on out maybe prices will stabilize finally.

                                   
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/19 12:09:54 (permalink)
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    LOL, dude if miners weren't so incredibly defensive about it I wouldn't be poking fun at you. Your response here is just another example of the defensiveness - which, as we all know, always works when trying to refute someone else's statement... lol.
     
    Hell, in another thread I even said that if I was a miner my response would be, "yeah, we miners bought a huge number of GPU's and the supply couldn't meet the increased demand. So what?" Not your fault NVidia couldn't keep up. See how easy that is? Why is making such a basic and obvious statement such a huge problem for you guys, particularly when even NVidia itself agrees with it! Being a miner doesn't make you a bad person lol, but apparently you feel bad about it, and that's ok too (I guess it's the gamer in you warring with the miner in you), but the heavy denial and defensiveness in the face of supporting statements even from NVidia itself just makes you a target for ridicule. Don't fight it dude, it's bigger than the both of us.. lol.
     
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    lol miners and vegans get so defensive if you say anything bad about them

                                   
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/19 16:44:58 (permalink)
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    lol miners and vegans get so defensive if you say anything bad about them



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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/19 16:52:17 (permalink)
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    lol miners and vegans get so defensive if you say anything bad about them



    LMAO! Yes vegans too!

    Gee I wonder why? It's not like miners are attacked by gamers all the time or anything like that. For the record I have begun to mine myself.
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/19 17:35:48 (permalink)
    I see ALOT of 1080Tis on ebay.  5 pages worth...........and don't forget, anyone who says you will get a new, like new or used GPU with a 3 year warranty is lying through their teeth (fingers).  Don't forget they are 2nd hand purchases at that point whether they are new GPUs or not.  Only if they are an authorized dealer you can get the full warranty.  
     
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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/19 18:05:24 (permalink)
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    I see ALOT of 1080Tis on ebay.  5 pages worth...........and don't forget, anyone who says you will get a new, like new or used GPU with a 3 year warranty is lying through their teeth (fingers).  Don't forget they are 2nd hand purchases at that point whether they are new GPUs or not.  Only if they are an authorized dealer you can get the full warranty.  
     
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    I believe the warranty follows the card these days, not the owner - at least with EVGA cards, but yeah I see what you mean. The warranty is from the purchase date from an authorized dealer, so even if they claim it is a 'new' card, because it's coming from a private EBay seller the warranty will likely start from the date it left the EVGA factory, not from when it was purchased from some EBay clown. I don't know about other brands.
     


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    Re: Nvidia Braces Itself for Rough Ride Following Lower Demand from Miners 2018/05/19 18:32:03 (permalink)
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    I see ALOT of 1080Tis on ebay.  5 pages worth...........and don't forget, anyone who says you will get a new, like new or used GPU with a 3 year warranty is lying through their teeth (fingers).  Don't forget they are 2nd hand purchases at that point whether they are new GPUs or not.  Only if they are an authorized dealer you can get the full warranty.  
     
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    I see them too. Still not low enough in price for me to jump. I'm waiting on the 11 series to hit and hoping I can get me some 1080 Ti Founders Edition cards at $500 shipped. I'll be taking the air cooler off of them and putting water blocks on them, so for most companies, besides EVGA, I'll be voiding the warranty anyways.
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