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2018/05/07 18:43:46 (permalink)
I submitted my Graphic Card to RMA process today, and I want to know, what is the most probably replacement for ACX 2.0 980 TI? 
 
 
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    harmattan
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/08 01:27:38 (permalink)
    Depending on stock, you're probably looking at a 1070 SC ACX. This would be the closest equivalent.
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/08 07:42:29 (permalink)
    ????  maybe a 1060  on a 980   just be sure you stress its used in a sli rig   cause a 1060 don't support SLI   that may help deter  form you getting a 1060  .     should be some older threads on this you asked and look and see what they got .
     
    like here evga claime a error ? or got caught trying to pull a fast one ?
     
    https://forums.evga.com/I-RMA39d-my-980-and-am-getting-a-1060-m2554034.aspx
     
     
    a 1070 / 1070ti  would be right   just keep a close eye on your RMA transaction   for any concerns you may catch in the process of it  . 
     
    a 980 guy got a 1070 here
     
    https://forums.evga.com/RMA-GTX-980-SC-m2696373.aspx
     
    with the miner crap going on  things may be tight  and evga could try that 1060 on ya now a days
     
     
    let us know what you got when its all said and done
     
    good luck 
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/14 05:18:51 (permalink)
    Well i got an 1070 FTW back... sent in my 980ti Classified, feels kind of bad, since the 1070 isnt realy of same performance. Nvidia list´s it as better performing, but in most benchmarks it´s not better and specially in games its not perfomring better.
    Im disappointed, when i see in forums and on Youtube that a lot of people got 1080´s and 1070ti´s. With a 1070 its very close, but if i would have got a 1060 i would be furios.
     
    I contacted the support, asking if it maybe was a misstake, that some one packed an 1070 instat of an 1070ti, they said it already was the "good will" replacement. 
    Sending me some link to an Nvidia perfomance chart, saying that the 1070 is performing better in anyway then the 980ti, not realising that you can see in the same chart that the 980ti got more avrage fps in crysis 3 in an even higher resolution (980ti 2560x1600 vs 1070 2560x1440) so higher resolution still higher avarage fps... what woud be the conclution? (picked crysis 3 because its the only game both cards were tested with)
    They offered to check if a 980ti Classified is avaiable for replacement, still no awnser so far.
     
    post edited by ragnitoc - 2018/05/14 05:28:24
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/14 10:56:07 (permalink)
    Tell them to send me a 1080TI, and they can send you my Titan X.
    Then maybe both of us would be happy.
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/14 15:41:00 (permalink)
    ''they said it already was the "good will" replacement '' ..   so was your warrantee out or past time ?      that statement could be taken as ''worrisome ''  if that's the policy now .
     
    not only like you say on the performance front    then look at the lack of support you now got with a 10 series  . if you run any older hardware like  crt monitors or any with a dvi-I  /analog .  or win xp  [ I savesd the xp drivvers before NVidia removed  but funny the 960 still has  xp-32 support  listed  [and its not due to memory issues ]    anyway here before long if its not win-10 its not going to be supported anyway  . that's the trend they want
     
    but that ''good will''  deal .  with  that you should of got a too bad so sad note  and your 980ti back along with it  or  did not have a 1060 ref referb   ready ? 
     
    it just goes to show there warrantee is only as good as ''THEY'' want it to be  [subject to change with out notice ] , cause once they get your card in there hands  its then  a take it or leave it  deal.   not a drop more .
     
    guess now its hope you don't have to send it back 2 or 3 times to get a good card 
     
    seems evga is more and more becoming run of the mill  from what they use to be about  and there reputation  ''was''  built on  .    in the end I guess something of anything may be better then nothing at all  [??? ]
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/14 15:47:29 (permalink)
    A 1070 is on par with a 980 Ti give or take different games, the performance difference is so minuscule one really wouldn't notice. The 1070 does have more VRAM as well though, so that is always a good thing. The performance difference between the cards is so close that it comes down to even minimal factory overclocks. Let's just get it out there and say the 980 Ti is a bold card, once a flagship gaming card, so when it get's replaced by a 2nd tier GPU it does hurt the ego a little, but we should all swallow are pride & ego, and give the 1070 Credit where it's due..... performing as good as the past generations best "gaming" card aside from the Titan at a much lower price.
    post edited by joeymir - 2018/05/14 15:52:13

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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/14 19:03:23 (permalink)
    I know I wouldnt mind a 1070TI for my cruddy Titan X, thats for sure.
    As long as I got a working card I would be happy, with 8gb memory.
    JUST today is the 1st time in about 5-6 gaming sessions where everything looked right. Otherwise I just get games that dont load correctly anymore. And, that doesnt hold the fps anymore, and has to have 100% fan speeds and has to have a gtx580 doing physx duty and has to have heatsinks and fans blowing across the back of the card. JUST to get somewhat playable games, some of the time.
    So, be happy with what you have if it works.
    You could have my cruddy titan x that they will never ever ever make right for me, ever.
     
    So, yes, listen to Dr. Death. You are lucky to get a working card back and not a 'E U' (family friendly here, lol) from evga back.

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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/15 03:14:20 (permalink)
    I still got Varenty on the 980ti until October or so... 
    1070 FTW seems new unopend.... did not open the box yet. And i did not got my 980ti back.
     
    @Joeymir I know its very close, but in conclusion the 980ti overall gets 10-15% more avarge fps, except in one game under special settings, thats Rainbow Six Siege.
    I saw so many Benchmarks and Game comparens of this to cards.
    As i said, i am not unhappy (but happy neither) with the card, i am dissapointed to see so many others got way better cards.. And i am kind of furios about them trying to sell this card as better.
     
    If they would have at least send a FTW2 or SC2(iCX), but no, its the old one... maybe i even have to change/add this stupid thermalpads..
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/15 06:41:56 (permalink)
    whats funny to me is  a 980 ti clocked to say 1250   but the ''better'' 10 series is  1750 ,  but on par ?     if you could clock that 980 ti  to 1750/ 1800  or down clock that 1070 to match your 980ti stock clock then lets see what card is better .
     
    if the 1070 was 1140 card and doing better or = to then you got something to say on that . thing is you would expect a card stock running up to 1800 MHz to flat run over a card that's 1250  by a heck of a lot  [opinion ]
     
    har to find tested with same games   but try this
     
    bf3 with ''4AA''  980ti at [1102 /1190 ]
    https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_980_Ti_SC_Plus/9.html
     
    bf3  ''NO'' AA  evga 1070 [1594/ 1784  stock clocking ]
    https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1070_SC/8.html
     
    witcher 3
    980ti
    https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_980_Ti_SC_Plus/23.html
     
    1070
    https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1070_SC/20.html
     
    then the support you loose with a 10 series as well .   = to looks a reach  [a stretch Armstrong reach ] or in opinion /  as determined by Nvidia...lol....
     
    hay, don't look a gift horse in the mouth and your at there full mercy when alls said and done .  the rma could of been rejected  just as easy  and today its not like your going to newegg and buying a new 980ti  anyway  , heck your not buying one here at the evga store . 
     
    a little bit of something can be a lot better then a whole lot of nothing .
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/15 07:24:10 (permalink)
    My 980ti is still under varenty, so if they woud have rejected rma, i could have sued them.
    And the Varenty transfers over to the 1070 by law, in Germany any electrical item sold got to have a 2 year varenty minimum by law. This also aplies to rma products.
    So i get a 2 year varenty from the day the card was delivered. And its not julst Germany its all the EU ;)
    post edited by ragnitoc - 2018/05/15 07:26:28
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/15 12:15:49 (permalink)
    ''so if they woud have rejected rma, i could have sued them''
     
    better read there terms  .   all they go to do is use any end user abuse clause .     I guess lawyer fees and court costs  are cheap there  then what you invest 500 bucks over a 400buck card  [3 years ago ? ]
     
    ''  Product condition:''   all they have to do is claim one .
    https://eu.evga.com/support/warranty/
     
    LOL...  at least cigarette smokers are not listed as reject reason it is in the USA .   thats how nit picky  it can be  / rejected .
     
    I did like the   ACT OF GOD in yours /EU .    like they feel you were born stupid that falls under act of god ? ..lol...
     
    I don't know its like I said to me  '' something is better then nothing ''  when it comes down to it in the end ,,   if its not all you expected then you will know better next time when you go to buy ...
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/15 13:04:19 (permalink)
    They can write what ever they want into there terms of service, but if it conflicts with local law its  worthless what they write.
    And if sued the winner dose not pay^^ the looser has too pay everything, cort and oponents laywer. And the coast for the cort is determent by the worth of the thing the lawsuit is about.
     
    Even if i dont have any money, there is a thing here, where you just go to cort, tell them whats going on and if they say the probablitliy of wining is high, they pay for you in advance. ;)
    post edited by ragnitoc - 2018/05/15 13:08:15
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/23 16:28:48 (permalink)
    Hey everyone. I got a 1080 back. Thank you all for the replies
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/24 00:03:37 (permalink)
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    Well i got an 1070 FTW back... sent in my 980ti Classified, feels kind of bad, since the 1070 isnt realy of same performance. Nvidia list´s it as better performing, but in most benchmarks it´s not better and specially in games its not perfomring better.
    Im disappointed, when i see in forums and on Youtube that a lot of people got 1080´s and 1070ti´s. With a 1070 its very close, but if i would have got a 1060 i would be furios.
     
    I contacted the support, asking if it maybe was a misstake, that some one packed an 1070 instat of an 1070ti, they said it already was the "good will" replacement. 
    Sending me some link to an Nvidia perfomance chart, saying that the 1070 is performing better in anyway then the 980ti, not realising that you can see in the same chart that the 980ti got more avrage fps in crysis 3 in an even higher resolution (980ti 2560x1600 vs 1070 2560x1440) so higher resolution still higher avarage fps... what woud be the conclution? (picked crysis 3 because its the only game both cards were tested with)
    They offered to check if a 980ti Classified is avaiable for replacement, still no awnser so far.
     


    You're kidding right? That 1070 a) is a much newer GPU, b) has more VRAM, c) uses less power. By any account that matters, it's the better card. It's also the nearest equivalent (and was the direct replacement GPU) to your 980 ti. EVGA did exactly what they stipulated in terms. It sounds like you've heard a few unicorn stories about people getting a higher tier card for exchange and now you're disappointed you weren't one of the 1% who won the lottery in very specific circumstances. But you're special (like everyone else), right? I really feel for EVGA CS having to waste time here...

    Also, love the guy posturing about "what if you had a CRT??".

    Enjoy your new 1070.
     
    Edit: Rereading and seeing OP is claiming "the 980ti overall gets 10-15% more avarge fps [than the 1070]".  That's completely incorrect: the 1070 is almost always marginally faster than the 980 ti.  I think you're looking across two separate benchmarks of the same game, in which case you do realize different bench runs will provide different performance results across both cards?
     
    Also, see EVGA gave you a 1080.  Congratulations to you; shame on EVGA.  This is how companies bleed capital due to CS and replacement costs. 
    post edited by harmattan - 2018/05/24 01:15:13
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    Re: Replacement for 980TI ACX 2.0 2018/05/24 19:22:16 (permalink)
    I think you also have to take into account what the system is being played on:
    1920x1080, almost anything newer is better.
    2560x1440, everything gets a LOT closer in terms of fps which is better.
    3840xxxx0? Things get even closer.
     
    So, a 1070 may seem like a great card to someone who runs 1920x1080 @ 30hz, or 60hz.
    But, when you take into consideration 2560 and higher, and 120+hz, it gets a little harder to judge.
    I know I would not take a 1070 for my titan x.
    I would take a 1070TI, or a 1080TI though.
    Gaming at 2560x1440 144hz is just different than those that game at 30 or 60hz. Its not very comperable.

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