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1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots?

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2018/05/07 01:24:46 (permalink)
Since my last thread: https://forums.evga.com/GTX-1080-Ti-FTW3-HYBRID-GAMING-issues-m2797660.aspx 
I've RMA'd my previous card and got a replacement which works better, no more crashs or high temps.
 
But now every X days/reboots the pump speed (or so I think) stops working and I have to open my case and reconnect the little connector from the rad/gpu to restart it and get my temps back in order. Might I add that the little connector seems very fragile for such an expensive product.
I can clearly hear/see when this issue occurs as my temp in XOC go up to above 50c in idle/youtubing. And the fan makes considerably much more noise due to the heat. Which doesn't make sense, because normally it's only around 24C-ish.
 
Does anyone else have this issue? Or know why this happens? The case nor anything around it ever moves.
 
 
Edit: you can slightly hold the tubes and feel very little vibration in comparison to the working solution where it vibrates a whole lot more.
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    squall-leonhart
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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/07 02:38:30 (permalink)
    run the system without xoc or any other sensor app to see if it reproduces, this is often a mixing of applications using incompatible mutex's causing a crash of the controller chip.

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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/07 02:42:16 (permalink)
    What program do you suggest to otherwise readout the sensor? I've got HWinfo64 installed which has always been good to me and doesn't have any controlling functionality.
    Other then that I have CAM usually running but shouldn't be needed to run and no other programs that can control or read sensors. I will keep that one closed just in case.
     
    Thanks for the advice I'll give it a whirl.
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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/07 02:47:01 (permalink)
    CAM and HWInfo use the same kernel access driver i believe
     
    Running them both is definitely bound to collide at some point as from what i remember hwinfo is one of few applications still using Local mutex access to drivers. 
     
    Apart from that, if you've got Corsair link, this can crash a gpu or sensor bus even if its the only thing running because it is highly unsafe in its sensor reading routines (which got red-ray  banned from their forums for tearing the devs are new a-hole)
     
    You could give SIV a try.

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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/07 03:54:02 (permalink)
    I do have Corsair Link installed but it shouldn't be running, I've disabled all the applications and just run SIV to check on things if needed.
     
    I will report back if the issue reoccurs.
     
    Edit: does that mean HWinfo is safe?
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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/07 22:49:42 (permalink)
    HWInfo is safe as long as it is run on its own.

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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/11 12:46:17 (permalink)
    So far after days not running any monitoring software the problem seems to be away, but it might reappear. Wanted to update the thread for people having issues in the future. If it stays away I will revert to the programs running again and see if it still happends.
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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/11 22:46:16 (permalink)
    I'm running a bunch of duplicated monitoring software on my system the same time, including HWinfo64, MSI Afterburner, Coretemp, Precision XOC, Latency Moon, some Corsair software like Link, CUE and bunch of Asus software like Sonic Studio, RamDisk. They cause no issues with the pump, the pump isn't affected by these software installed on your system, it runs on its own once it gets the voltage.
    post edited by SilentMarket - 2018/05/11 22:58:05

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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/11 23:40:23 (permalink)
    SilentMarket
    I'm running a bunch of duplicated monitoring software on my system the same time, including HWinfo64, MSI Afterburner, Coretemp, Precision XOC, Latency Moon, some Corsair software like Link, CUE and bunch of Asus software like Sonic Studio, RamDisk. They cause no issues with the pump, the pump isn't affected by these software installed on your system, it runs on its own once it gets the voltage.


    Why are you running all that at the same time?  I guess those prior issues you had with Precision are fixed? I have Sonic Studio for the Centurion headphones and use AB for some mild overclocking.
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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/12 00:07:39 (permalink)
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    Why are you running all that at the same time?  I have Sonic Studio for the Centurion headphones and use AB for some mild overclocking.

    Because the system runs without problem and I let it run.  It doesn't hurt until I do some benchmark to hit scores.
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    I guess those prior issues you had with Precision are fixed? 

    There is no prior problem with Precision.
    post edited by SilentMarket - 2018/05/12 04:11:05

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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/14 23:47:10 (permalink)
    thats nice you like to risk the stability of your system like that, most people prefer their system to not have the risk of suddenly going black screen or a pwm polarity inverting.

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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/15 01:50:26 (permalink)
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    thats nice you like to risk the stability of your system like that, most people prefer their system to not have the risk of suddenly going black screen or a pwm polarity inverting.


    This is how I know a stability issue



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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/19 23:47:21 (permalink)
    has nothing to do with stability, everything to do with mutex collisions.

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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/20 02:24:23 (permalink)
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    has nothing to do with stability, everything to do with mutex collisions.

     
    Using that word is kind of smart. But, being unstable or incompatible, it is the same fashion happens to your system. And the way you find it out is the same too.
    post edited by SilentMarket - 2018/05/20 02:35:13

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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/20 02:39:29 (permalink)
    edit: Quote removed because of TOS  Cool GTX
     
    Anyway, do you know control variates method? I believe you can achieve the same understanding without a problem. But don't dig too much about the word. These Asetek pumps are made to run full speed, you can control it with motherboard, maybe, with 10% difference in rpm. But pump stopping spinning is something else.
     



    post edited by Cool GTX - 2018/05/20 13:14:10

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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/20 10:39:27 (permalink)
    I’d just like to say that software has caused several asetek pumps for me to have conflicting issues, and about every one that has caused issues for me has been named inside of this thread. So stop the arguing and accept reality. Thanks.



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    Basic rule of thumb is to Not run more background software than absolutely necessary.  It CAN affect stability or performance.
     
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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/24 11:19:05 (permalink)
    So this issue happened again, PC worked fine during the morning. Booted it up at night and no pump flow, had to replug the cable and the issue seems to be resolved after several reboots.
     
    Why is this happening? There wasn't any software running.
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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/24 11:22:05 (permalink)
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    So this issue happened again, PC worked fine during the morning. Booted it up at night and no pump flow, had to replug the cable and the issue seems to be resolved after several reboots.
     
    Why is this happening? There wasn't any software running.




    Time to RMA the the GPU.

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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/24 11:26:02 (permalink)
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    So this issue happened again, PC worked fine during the morning. Booted it up at night and no pump flow, had to replug the cable and the issue seems to be resolved after several reboots.
     
    Why is this happening? There wasn't any software running.




    Time to RMA the the GPU.


    Again? Why is this such a bad batch?
     
    I contacted support if they can help me with anything.


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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/24 12:26:16 (permalink)
    You can thank asetek for making crap pumps. Until their license/agreement whatever you wanna call it is up your stuck with asetek from any hybrid cooler make or all in one make as well.



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    Re: 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybird, pump speed (I think) randomly stops every X days or reboots? 2018/05/24 14:38:39 (permalink)
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    You can thank asetek for making crap pumps. Until their license/agreement whatever you wanna call it is up your stuck with asetek from any hybrid cooler make or all in one make as well.



    Yeah learned that from GamersNexus, really sucks. They are not that bad pumps, but why license it and just be a bothersome.
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