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2018/04/25 16:07:28 (permalink)
Hey all.
In the last month, my 980 ti Classified has started to run hotter than usual.
Nothing about my case/system has changed. Regardless of game, my temps
hit 88-90c. I've visually inspected the card and can see nothing wrong with the heatsink, barely any
sag.  I keep my card & case very clean, fans are great. In fact I have two 140mm intake fans
blowing on the card. I do not have a custom fan curve set, nor do I have any overclocks outside of the default
factory clock it came with.  

Do you think this is cause for concern? Before this last month, my temps never went above 82c. 
Should I bother with an RMA? 
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/25 16:17:50 (permalink)
    Is your room warmer this month than last ?
     
    How are you measuring the temp?
     
     

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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/25 16:33:55 (permalink)
    My room this winter has been around 65F (18C)
    Just a few minutes ago, I was playing Fallout 4 for 30mins, tabbed out to check my temps. I use HWMonitor and GPUZ. 
    Both show my GPU hitting 89c. Current room temp is 68F 20C
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/25 16:50:52 (permalink)
    dang something seems off for sure. Even at default fan curve my 980 Ti classys in SLI don't see the 90C mark, but around 84c. You may try re-applying thermal compound and see if that helps, as more often then not, it does. Along with that i'd reinstall GPU drivers just to weed any driver related issues. You said you don't have a custom fan curve, however do you still use eVGA Precision or MSI Afterburner for other reasons such as OSD or overclocking? Seen both these programs cause some odd issues, where it seems to break the fan curve & or cause unusually high temps. I'd uninstall & delete any trace of them, then re-install if so.

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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/26 05:41:28 (permalink)
    Im on the latest nvidia drivers, rolling back didn't change temps at all.
    I removed all traces of evga precision, didn't change temps either. 
     
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/26 08:55:03 (permalink)
    Silly question but did you check to make sure that the GPU fans are spinning?
     
    If they are spinning, try manually setting the GPU fan speed to 100% and test again. If the temps still get to 90C then a TIM repaste is in order.
     
    Also, you can try the same tests with the side of your case removed. If that drops the temperature of the GPU a lot then your case airflow needs tweaked/changed.
    post edited by arestavo - 2018/04/26 08:57:25
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/26 12:06:21 (permalink)
    WoW, those temps.... I T.I.M.ed mine with Gelid (GC-Extreme) temps never run over 60c...with an aggressive fan profile. ReTIM and set an aggressive fan profile, check case airflow. Cheers

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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/26 12:32:25 (permalink)
    If your running 397.31 drivers...read this https://www.techpowerup.c...o-endless-restart-loop

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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/26 15:27:47 (permalink)
    Setting the GPU Fans to 100% brings my temps back down to about 80-81c.
    Fans on default with the case open, temps are still around 84-87c
    So yes, case being closed does add a few degrees, but it's been closed for several months 
    and only in the last month has temps hit that 90c mark. 
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/26 15:50:31 (permalink)
    I would still suggest removing cooler & re-applying thermal compound. Between that, and the cooler getting re-seated, always a chance it will help.

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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/26 16:45:18 (permalink)
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    I would still suggest removing cooler & re-applying thermal compound. Between that, and the cooler getting re-seated, always a chance it will help.




    Any compounds you'd suggest? I'm very much a noob when it comes to tinkering on this level. I've never removed the cooler from a gpu, well
    not since an old PNY Geforce 4 ti 4200. But that just had 4 push pins... 
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/26 17:01:11 (permalink)
    I would suggest getting a different card.
    Unless you want to go through years of trying everything on the web, like I have, to try to make it work, and rma only to have evga say the card is fine, and you still have the same issues.
     
    I have tried water cooling (which DID fix the temps, for a while, but they started creeping back up on me).
    I have since just stuck with air, but every month or 2, my temps creep up 1-2 more C. And thats with 100% fans on.
    Seems the only thing everyone agrees on is that the VRM's are cheap on the 900 series, and once they go, they go. You can stem the tide with MSI Afterburner, but in the end it wont matter, and your card will eventually end up failing on you, ot you HAVE to have headsplitting 100 fan speeds forever if you want to game. :(
     
    See here:
    https://forums.evga.com/T...2nd-card-m2632748.aspx

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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/26 19:22:18 (permalink)
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    I would still suggest removing cooler & re-applying thermal compound. Between that, and the cooler getting re-seated, always a chance it will help.




    Any compounds you'd suggest? I'm very much a noob when it comes to tinkering on this level. I've never removed the cooler from a gpu, well
    not since an old PNY Geforce 4 ti 4200. But that just had 4 push pins... 


    I really like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut for that little extra drop in degrees C. However, even Arctic Silver 5 will be good enough if your current paste is drying out.
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/27 17:58:27 (permalink)
    Wow, those 980ti Classified's get awfully hot. My 980ti SC+ with the default fan curve never goes over 76C which I still think could be improved if I changed out the factory TIM. Maybe one day I'll work up the courage to do it.:)
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/27 19:06:03 (permalink)
    Removing the heatsink in order to replace the thermal paste is very easy.
    https://linustechtips.com...ssified-thermal-paste/
    You ony need to remove the 4 screws around the GPU core. Leave the other screws installed.

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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/27 21:44:41 (permalink)
    Mine gets to 86 even after changing the thermal paste and custom fan curve. I just live with it. If it dies from heat hopefully it's still within the warranty period. Some of these just run hot.

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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/04/29 17:25:07 (permalink)
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    I would still suggest removing cooler & re-applying thermal compound. Between that, and the cooler getting re-seated, always a chance it will help.




    Any compounds you'd suggest? I'm very much a noob when it comes to tinkering on this level. I've never removed the cooler from a gpu, well
    not since an old PNY Geforce 4 ti 4200. But that just had 4 push pins... 


    I really like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut for that little extra drop in degrees C. However, even Arctic Silver 5 will be good enough if your current paste is drying out.


    I just ordered some Kryonaut, going to give it a try this week, thanks!
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/05/02 14:19:18 (permalink)
    Hope it helps! keep us posted

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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/05/02 15:58:36 (permalink)
    I could wonder if heating up and cooling down some PCB could warp  and then you would get bad contact between the chip and the cooler  ?   I seen a few guys showing this on there cards  .
     
    that contact between the coolers cold plate and the top of the chip is important   if bad or wrong all the paste and fan speeds may not do much good in the end . a ill fitted cooler aint efficient  and this could be a end result  
    post edited by Dr.Death - 2018/05/02 16:01:02
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/05/04 11:58:25 (permalink)
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    I could wonder if heating up and cooling down some PCB could warp  and then you would get bad contact between the chip and the cooler  ?   I seen a few guys showing this on there cards  .
     
    that contact between the coolers cold plate and the top of the chip is important   if bad or wrong all the paste and fan speeds may not do much good in the end . a ill fitted cooler aint efficient  and this could be a end result  


    Let's hope that's not the case, but always a chance May as well exhaust all other possibilities before throwing in the towel.

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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/05/04 12:28:54 (permalink)
    you may still try to dig up things like this one  and get a look/ idea  on what to look for on yours   though it could be straight  cold but start to warp as it heats up and then that contact between the  chip and cold plate get ''broke'' ?
     
    https://forums.hexus.net/graphics-cards/331809-inno3d-gtx-970-oc-overheating-fix.html
     
    or maybe if the card was prone to sagging how that would affect things over time heating up and cooling down ?
     
    https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/how-much-sag-is-too-much-sag-msi-gtx-980.209780/
     
    then you got to wonder with the rash of evga cards posted here with the burnt up deal  if power regulation is going on the frits ?
     
     https://forums.evga.com/GTX-970-SSC-Caught-on-Fire-m2816934.aspx
     
    https://forums.evga.com/GTX-980ti-Catching-FIRE-Sparking-m2611102.aspx
     
    all you can do is what you can and hope   or just let it bop till it drops   [not a good time to have to buy an new card right now /$$$ ]
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/05/08 18:30:49 (permalink)
    Well applied the Kryonaut, temps dropped by a whole 1 degree. Better than nothing I suppose =)
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/05/09 08:50:59 (permalink)
    LOL.
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/05/09 09:02:58 (permalink)
    Thanks for the offer. But at this point, I'm just going to wait til the 1180 line comes out. 
    Besides the 980ti is struggling with 1440p 
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    Re: 980 Ti Classified temp issue? 2018/05/10 18:17:31 (permalink)
    I hear you.
    My titan x is struggling with 1440 also (although it shouldnt be, it worked great for 6 months, then went south and has never recovered since).
    I like 90+ fps in my games. 30 and 60 just dont cut it. :(

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