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  I started to log the point production of the various cards I fold on 24/7 . I thought I would share the results so that others can have an idea of point production and possibly help plan a build.  I started with a Gigabyte 1060 6 gig. Soon after,I picked up an EVGA 1050ti which I donated in the 2017 TZC and did not log its production. Shortly after getting the 1050ti I decided to fold on my old x58 EVGA 3x sli mobo and grabbed an EVGA 1080 sc and shortly after a 1070sc. At the end of Dec 2017 I grabbed an EVGA 1080ti sc2.
The  rigs I was folding on -
EVGA 3x sli x58 mobo with the 1080 and 1070 non sli 
Gygabyte 970A-DS3P mobo with the 1080ti and the 1060 for physics (bottlenecked)
I recently aquired an ASUS board, cpu and ram from Bill1024 at a great price and moved my 1080ti to it.
I began to log point production prior to the ASUS board but was eager to try the new board and did not fill in the blanks marked "n/a" below.  *Edit, I recently moved it back to fill in the blanks but have not been home to log all results yet. I will edit results when available. All pc's are running Win7 pro 64bit. I plan to retest soon with Linux and will update this post.
 
1060 6gb as physics (4x slot)
WU         Points        PPD          Run time hrs/min          TPF min/sec
9414      31253     238960                  3/0                            1/46
9415      32513     255375                  3/0                            1/48
9431      37575     247821                  3/30                          2/04
11432       n/a             n/a                     n/a                             n/a
11713     82944    298770                  6/30
13781     23342    269615                  2/10                          1/18  
13782     24743    285040                  2/5                            1/17      
13783     24124    267679                  2/5                            1/15
 
1060 6gb primary slot windows7

WU         Points         PPD         Run time
9414       36360     361072       2.16  hours
9415       37337     388664       2.25  hours
9431       43064     372077       3       hours
11432     84963      324813       6.2   hours
11432     114939    383947       6.5    hours
11713     119262    418872       6      hours
13781      28004     410087       1.6   hours
13782      27920     408855       1.6   hours
13783      28037     410535       1.75  hours
 
1060 6gb Linux mint-Primary slot 

 WU             points            PPD           time hrs/min           TPF min/sec
9414           38543         444016              2/0                         1/15
9415           39492         460627              2/0                         1/14
9431           45786         444485              2/30                       1/29

11715         67711         436603             3/50                        2/13  
13782         28527         456396             1/30                        0/54
13783         29267         468274             1/30                        0/54
 
1060 3gb & Linux mint- as physics

 WU             points            PPD           time hrs/min           TPF min/sec
9414         
9415          
9431         

11715         56454         343494                3/40                      2/22
13782       
13783  
13816        49793          359571                3/20                       2/1
 
1070 secondary (physics slot)
WU          Points               PPD          Run time hrs/min        TPF  Min/Sec
9414        39789           498227                2/0                            1/09
9415        40911           512275                2/0                            1/09
9431        48128           528669                2/15                          1/20
11432      137612        639229                 n/a
11713      102577        568116                4/20                          
11715        86455         900021                5/0                            1/24
13781        30321         523942                1/20                          0/50
13782        30589         572373                1/30                          0/50
13783        30725         541761                1/35                          0/49
1070 secondary (physics slot) Linux Mint

WU          Points               PPD          Run time hrs/min        TPF  Min/Sec
9414       
9415     
9431     
11432     
11713    107617          654979                4/05                          2/21
11715      79779          703325                2/30                          1/38
13781   
13782   
13783    
 
 
1080 primary slot
WU             Points            PPD             Run time            TPF  Min/Sec
 
9414          43472          647584             2/0                       0/58
9415          44934          681101            1/35                      0/57
9431          51858          649394            1/50                      1/06
11432      145998          769162            4/30
11713      111178          722242            4/30
11715
13781        33198          699596             1/5                       0/41
13782        33764          710302             1/5                       0/40
13783        33572          730905            1/15                      0/40
 
1080 primary slot Linux Mint
WU             Points            PPD               Run time           TPF  Min/Sec
 
9414     
9415      
9431      
11432     
11713    
11715        86455          900021                5/0                            1/24
13781       
13782    
13783  
13816        66182           853548              1/45                             1/7
 
1080ti primary slot on gygabyte board (with 1060 as physics) win7

WU           Points          PPD             Run time         TPF  Min/Sec
9414         46031       736005         1.5 hours              0/52
9415         46127       781444         1.5 hours              0/52
9431         55989       765495         1.6 hours              0/59
11432      145998      769162          4.5 hours
11713      110666      713549            n/a
13781        35383      826351          1   hour               0/36
13782        35355      848284          1   hour               0/37
13783        32483      652758         1.1 hours              0/35
 
1080ti primary slot on ASUS board win7

WU           Points           PPD           Run time           TPF  Min/Sec
9414         43955        666470        1.5  hours
9415         49030        858278        1.4  hours
9431         57522        887948        1.5  hours
11432      169510     1,200,461        3    hours
11713      125893     1,042,535       2.5  hours
13781        36421       899082          1    hour
13782        36965       939343         1.1  hours
13783        37268       976255          .9   hours
 
 
 
1080ti primary slot on ASUS board / Linux Mint
WU           Points           PPD           Run time           TPF  Min/Sec
9414        52545       1120952        1.12 hours
9415        53866       1163495           55 min                      0/40
9431        62974       1182816        1.26 hours                   0/48
11432
11713
13781
13782      39770       1184675           48 min                      0/30
13783      39716       1183277           50 min                      0/29
 
 
1080ti primary slot on X58 classy  / Linux Mint
WU           Points              PPD             Run time hrs/min          TPF  Min/Sec
9414     
9415     
9431      
11432
11713
11714      131896         1225357                 2/30                   1/33
11715        95052         1190213                 1/53                   1/09
13781
13782     
13783 
13816        75336       1303126                   1/28                    0/51   
 
***Edit added a few missing numbers and added TPF as available
*********Edit, just noticed the BR Thank you
***Edit 7/2/18 added x58 classy to the roster with new (to me anyway) WU 11714
post edited by STR1D3R_2 - 2018/07/06 19:25:01


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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/03/22 18:33:04 (permalink)
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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/03/22 19:03:21 (permalink)
    i would recommend running GPU-Z to see exactly the bandwidth and other info on your cards. 


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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/03/22 20:16:40 (permalink)
    Your 1080 is being starved, seriously.  You should be scoring upwards of 900k with the 1378x units.  If you can, start including the TPF with your numbers that way we have a better way to compare.  
     
     
    for logging I would recommend hfm.net.  It's easy to setup and you can even get it hooked up to dropbox.  I would also highly recommend Chris21010's linux guide.  Your numbers will drastically improve and you will do a lot more science.
     
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    post edited by Ranmacanada - 2018/03/22 20:23:27

     

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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/03/22 20:30:07 (permalink)
    just do like me and throw it all into a giant google doc? here are my last 8 months of completed work units on 1080ti's in windows. my avg PPD over 14,170 work units is ~995 K PPD, not even 1 million :/
     
    https://docs.google.com/s...nJ-VI/edit?usp=sharing


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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/03/22 20:33:07 (permalink)
    Ok, how does one do that.  I've never published anything to google.  This would make things a lot easier ha.

     

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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/03/22 20:57:26 (permalink)
    go to google docs then select sheets then blank document then fill in the data and click the share button on the top right. not very difficult actually.


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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/03/23 04:51:31 (permalink)
    I always assumed that it was the 3x SLI x58 mobo with a i7 920 that was choking the cards. I am in the process of a dark build full water cooling. Gpu-z I can do. Hfm.net and drop box , I have read a little bit about but, I will need to get a grip on to figure out. To me it is like learning another language lol.


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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/03/23 22:22:43 (permalink)
    It's windows that is choking the cards.  Windows.  Move over to linux.  I have a 1080Ti in a toaster, A6-5400k, and it would do 400k ppd in windows...and does full blow score in Linux. :)  Follow Chris21010's guide and you will see the light.
     
    Here is my long spread sheet.  When the 1080Ti was moved to the basement, that was when it was put on the linux system.  My 1080FTW was on it for a little while.  Lots of data there.

     

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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/03/29 19:47:05 (permalink)
    HFM is a handy monitor for folks with multiple folding rigs.
    I also recommend it.
    I don't remember there being a LINUX version, but it doesn't care what OS the "folding" GPUs are running on.
     

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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/04/07 09:11:12 (permalink)
    Ok, so I finally had a little time yesterday to mess around and get Linux
    mint folding with my 1080ti. I had a bit of difficulty getting the fan speed
    adjustment to stick (total Linux noob here). I already had Mint up and running
    and was testing things out with an old gtx460. I started looking over the
    excellent guide written by Chris21010 but kept having issues with the fan thing.
    Well, temps outside have dropped again so I decided to stick the 1080ti in that
    box and let it run overnight. What a difference in production!

    Had some more time today and managed to get things working by continuing to
    follow some of the links provided in that thread and a few lucky google
    searches. As I am only using one card in that rig (for now) I am writing this to
    both help others  but mostly remember what I did to get to this point as I am
    about to switch another rig over and do not want a repeat of frustration lol.
    Iwill continue editing the charts on the OP with results as available.
     
    Here are the steps I took for single GPU fan control,
    open Nvidia x server settings > under Tab "X server Display Configuration" click the "Save to X Configuration File" button. In the pop up window Type or paste this (if empty)"/etc/X11/xorg.conf"   leaving out the"". Click save.
     
     Open the terminal, copy and paste this
    sudo xed /etc/X11/xorg.conf
    hit enter> type your password hit enter again.
    The xorg.config will open up. Scroll down to > section "Device" and add
    Option          "Coolbits"  "12" 
    then File>Save
    Exit all and reboot
    Note* I do have to adjust fan speed upon a reboot but for now this will suffice.
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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/04/07 11:32:13 (permalink)
    I'm not sure what Mint uses for a windows manager (I've always been Yggdrasil, Slackware, or XUbuntu) but there should be some way to set it up to run a shell script automatically once XWindows starts up.
    If it uses XFCE, look for a "Session and Startup" menu somewhere in the "Settings" menu.
     
    I don't remember the last time I used that Nvidia Xserver settings tool, I'd forgotten it existed.
     

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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/04/07 14:07:29 (permalink)
    Told ya.  Now you just need to convert the other box over and you'll see your productivity get even crazier :)
     
    Windows is horrible for folding.  I am forever grateful to Chris21010 for making that guide.  Now I just need to figure out how to install linux and use my current install of windows as a vm so I don't have to reinstall :P  and then you can fold and game because of resource sharing.

     

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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/04/07 16:09:55 (permalink)
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    Told ya.  Now you just need to convert the other box over and you'll see your productivity get even crazier :)
     

    No Doubt! Just finished getting another one on Mint (dual boot). Its 2 of 3 now on Linux. Just to clarify, I only have the 4 cards listed above (OP) and have been testing out how they produce on the different boards as well. The 1080 and 1070 have so far been in the same rig since October or so. That one will be running win7 for awhile longer as the C drive is kilobytes from full and the other 8 terabytes in drives have so many things on there I'd just rather not mess around and potentially screw something up. I will probably just put the 460 back in there and move the cards out to the other rigs that are now on Linux. I'm sure the PPD will go up a bit more but I'm in no rush and am going to fill in the blank spaces in OP. 
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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/04/07 16:45:23 (permalink)
    You know you can run Mint from a USB drive right?  Just install it to the USB drive and unplug your other drives so you don't have to worry about anything going wrong :P haha.

     

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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/04/07 17:00:15 (permalink)
    I actually forgot about that lol. That is how I've always tested new builds, booting up in knoppix or another distro. I'm sure I have a few spares around.
    Probably mess with it later tonight. ;-)
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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/04/08 14:40:44 (permalink)
    Looking forward to more updates and Mint tricks

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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/07/04 07:50:39 (permalink)
    Finally getting some different (and new?) WU's to update charts in original post. Been nothing but 11713's for months


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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/07/04 08:17:02 (permalink)
    I noticed last night and this morning I'm getting a bigger selection of work units and not all 11713's all the time too.  Unfortunately I can't monitor what work units I get all the time, because I work 10 hours a day and don't feel like look back through the logs to see what was done.   But keep up the great work on tracking the different PPD per work unit.  I enjoy reading it and see what different ones do on different systems.   Good work everyone!! 

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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/07/04 08:37:26 (permalink)
    I'm off work today and happened to look in on what the rigs are doing now. I have no time (or patience) to scroll through logs either. I've been giving some thought to turning an old box into a server as it has been collecting dust in a closet. Picked up an ssd and a 2TB drive for it. Trying out various Linux server distro's to see which serves me the best and is easy to work with. So it can log everything leaving me to tackle the honeydo list.
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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/07/04 10:23:16 (permalink)
    STR1D3R_2, thank you for doing this, quite informative. I'm glad you had different cards to test with. 
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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/07/04 10:37:09 (permalink)
    This sticky may help you monitor your WU  
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    Re: What PPD to Expect from various GFX cards 2018/07/04 12:23:06 (permalink)
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    That thread is exactly what gave me the want to have a server. I've seen links to that thread in a few places here too. bcavnaugh did a great job there. 
    Still trying to decide on my server OS at this time. Not a fan of working from the terminal still....Not that I'm totally opposed. Just started looking into rockstor this morning, not sold, just another possibility.
    centos, slackware, Ubuntu, openSUSE, Arch, Mageia, ClearOS Mint etc,,,,,,, just feeling them all out.
    post edited by STR1D3R_2 - 2018/07/04 12:26:46


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