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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/26 06:56:56
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I'm sure some people will try anything. Seems an odd thing to stumble across though unless one is trying to find a work around
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/26 07:01:27
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Weird.... I just said that timespy results could be flukes back in November because of garbage results where an entire system can be slower but score better, even though all results point to a much better faster system, and low and behold a glaring issue is found and reported.
How the hell could someone load different drivers in the validation time is beyond me, unless they are doing offline results. All I know for sure is that timespy is a garbage benchmark when it comes to legitimate results.
I reported an issue to them a while back that was a glaring mistake on their end. Faster cpu’s We’re showing to perform significantly better, but the results always said the slower cpu outscored the faster on the comparing scales. Thankful futuremark was quick to repair that, but how the hell it went unnoticed is beyond me. For this that didn’t know, the physics test goes by how long it takes to complete a physics task, so it runs in milliseconds. A 5960x takes about 80ms where a 7980xe takes about 30ms.. the compare results were in favor showing the 5960x faster, because the numbers were bigger so it had to be better... once they realized it, they corrected it right away.
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/26 09:20:21
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I'm surprised this only comes to daylight now because usually the checks are done prior to benchmark loading. Some smarter people might've already taken advantage of this. Hopefully the software developers and their testers will be a bit more creative with testing and preventing these kind of scenario's in the future.
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/26 10:09:00
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One reason I could care less about Time Spy. Sad though that someone who Benchmarks has to find a cheat to boost his scores. Some are so Hard Driven to only see the Graphics Score and not the Overall Score as well but that is just how it is.
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/26 11:40:47
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Wow. I wonder how long this is going to take futuremark to fix this.
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/26 13:31:09
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I don't understand , did not everyone know of this ?? LOD gets you a better score what's next he'll find the power slider j/k btw , you don't have to wait for the benchmark to start running , when using nvidia inspector do not apply it to the global profile open the drop down select TimeSpy , hit apply and enjoy flatland every time it opens if you like it that way. Also it only works on Time Spy to any degree , the rest of the fire strike family does not respond very well if at all.
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/26 13:35:03
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If you adjust the lod detail under the gloabl profile, or the 3dmark profile, and run the benchmark it'll catch you. Looks like your timing has to be just right to get it to work.
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/26 13:43:28
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Don't use the global profile select Time Spy in the drop down then apply whatever setting you like , max performance , single display , ect
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/26 14:59:44
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/26 18:14:01
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Minor changes good for an extra 300 points. Nothing wrong with that, lol.
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/27 03:00:26
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wow I thoght6 we were al full groan men and women. how are you really cheaten but your self . I do this for fun . and what ever score I get I love to see how mant beat me and what they used for gear to do it . what is old saying cheater never win and winers never cheat. I use profiler so I can make 4/way work with my 4 Titian X pascals and it is fully listed and I do this because I game at 8k res. lol and 2 cards so far just don't cut it yet lol
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/01/27 04:16:04
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Ok Sam we are gonna get this straight right now. I am in my early 50's and I don't cheat ... I don't need to. Cheaters don't post a How To Guide on how to beat their scores I was showing how Rubass's discovery is not news to everyone and even more that he's doing it 1 way and I can reproduce it another way , I also posted this at HWBot to him so he can see there's more ways than his to get a valid result. If nothing this might help the guys at UL figure out how to fix it faster. And for the record if you want to compete at HWBot http://hwbot.org/user/sam_nelson/ I Highly Suggest you start READING THE RULES for competition. I did not make them but I do FOLLOW them if you don't like it ? Take it up with HWBot. http://hwbot.org/user/hillguy/ LOD in Time Spy is considered a CHEAT ( it has been since NOV 2016 ) but in every other benchmark it's an allowed tweak / optimization. What say you now Sam ??
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/03/06 03:56:54
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I don't really care about benchmarks.. I only care if the games I want to play play to my satisfaction...
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/03/06 04:20:14
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Cool story... I think? Honestly, if you don’t care about benchmarks, why comment on a thread about them saying you don’t care? Seems like a waste of time. I admit, I am guilty of doing the same thing, which is why I have stopped replying to threads that I actually don’t care about. Saves time.
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Re: Pro overclocker uncovers 3DMARK performance cheat
2018/03/06 19:55:26
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It's nice to see where your system stacks up by using a benchmark once in awhile.
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