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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/18 23:11:14 (permalink)
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I wonder how much of a gain from 2400 to 3200 will be?
I will give this a Go in the AM, Thanks.


I think you have a 10 core CoffeeLake X series? Should make difference if that is the CPU
 
I'm going to try for 3200, it is rated for 3000, 200 is not that much more.
 
 
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on most everything. Coffeelake CPUs I guess are made with w10 in mind and work best with it.
I did have another upgrade/reboot during the PG challenge and I did not catch it.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/19 00:09:50 (permalink)
Does SoB have an option to share the work between multiple cores like GIMPS has?
 

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/19 01:38:20 (permalink)
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Does SoB have an option to share the work between multiple cores like GIMPS has?
 


Yes, they call it MT/Multithread

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/19 20:08:18 (permalink)
We have the POTM it is Asteroids the 22nd to the 26th
updated POTM thread.

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/19 20:15:08 (permalink)
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/19 21:11:03 (permalink)
Bumped the 8600 up to 4.6 and it just did a PPS-MEGA in 8:46
It has an AVX offset where it bumps it down one multiplier, so it is really running 4.6
It would do WCG at 4.6 I believe.  Not a bad little CPU for under 260$ new Intel.
1.26- 1.28V and cores are at or under 70c
Just have a 90mm AIO on it, going to put a 240mm AIO on it as soon as it gets here.

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 11:18:31 (permalink)
Core i9 7940X Processor x14 HT On @4200MHz Host
Run time 9,095.00 CPU time 14,643.80
Run time 12,465.00 CPU time 13,398.91
Core i9 7940X Processor x16 HT On @4200MHz
No real change.
Changing over and testing with HT Off.
Core i9 7940X Processor x14 HT Off @4400MHz
Run time 8,668.83
CPU time 8,668.83
 
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 13:24:30 (permalink)
You're running 1 task per core right? PPS-MEGA

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 13:28:29 (permalink)
No, sorry x14 and x16 MT
Do you want me to test with One Core with HT Off?

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 13:31:05 (permalink)
No that's ok, what is your memory speed and timings?

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 13:41:10 (permalink)
To Late! Could not change my current form MT so I have to complete the few tasks I have on hand and then run one Task Per Core.
My memory is 3200MHz running with and with out HT on the CPU.

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 13:50:58 (permalink)
I am doing PPS-MEGA in 675-700 seconds run time and 3000 CPU time with 6 cores MT @ 4.5ghz
You are using 14 cores MT at 4.2ghz with 3200 ram PPS=MEGA and taking 8660 to 9000 seconds?
Why are my times more than 10 times faster than yours? Where am I seeing something wrong?
Are you putting the decimal point in the wrong spot?
 

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 13:56:21 (permalink)
Without HT (Current Settings)
 
  <app>
   <name>llrMEGA</name>
   <fraction_done_exact/>
   <max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
 </app>
 <app_version>
   <app_name>llrMEGA</app_name>
   <cmdline>-t 12</cmdline>
   <avg_ncpus>12</avg_ncpus>
 </app_version>
 
With HT
 
  <app>
   <name>llrMEGA</name>
   <fraction_done_exact/>
   <max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
 </app>
 <app_version>
   <app_name>llrMEGA</app_name>
   <cmdline>-t 16</cmdline>
   <avg_ncpus>16</avg_ncpus>
 </app_version>
 
I am still wondering why I set my CPU to 44 yet ADA64 shows 41 and sometime 44.
This may have something to do with the new Bios but I am not sure.
On my X99 I disable EIST and it does not change the Turbo Mode but on my X299 it also Disables my Turbo Mode.
 
Current Tasks Pending.
 
 
At least I found where it shows the Number of Threads/Cores in use.
http://www.primegrid.com/result.php?resultid=871224964

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<core_client_version>7.8.3</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
BOINC llr wrapper (version 8.00)
Using Jean Penne's llr (64 bit)
LLR Program - Version 3.8.20, using Gwnum Library Version 28.13


LLR command line: primegrid_cllr.exe -d -oDiskWriteTime=1 -oThreadsPerTest=16 ..\..\projects\www.primegrid.com\llrMEGA_292935515
Using all-complex FMA3 FFT length 256K, Pass1=128, Pass2=2K, 16 threads, a = 5
BOINC llr wrapper (version 8.00)
Using Jean Penne's llr (64 bit)
LLR Program - Version 3.8.20, using Gwnum Library Version 28.13


LLR command line: primegrid_cllr.exe -d -oDiskWriteTime=1 -oThreadsPerTest=12 ..\..\projects\www.primegrid.com\llrMEGA_292935515
Using all-complex FMA3 FFT length 256K, Pass1=128, Pass2=2K, 12 threads, a = 5
14:43:05 (3140): called boinc_finish

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 14:15:49 (permalink)
On my Coffeelake CPY there is an AVX offset, does yours have it and what is it set for?
What it does is change the multiplier in the BIOS it will subtract 1, 2 , 3 x when it has a heavy AVX load.
Keeps the CPU from getting too warm. I believe the lowest setting is 1, I could not set it to zero.
It was at Auto by default.
 
Your app_config looks good to me
600 seconds vs 8,000 is a HUGE difference. I would think the extra cores would make up for a couple hundred mhz, i9  vs an i7...

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 14:19:51 (permalink)
I might, their are 2 new settings and they are set to 3 I never did find what they are for.
I will change them to 1 and see what happens
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 14:20:00 (permalink)
I bet I know.
Bill, did you delete the extra tasks PG sends to systems running MT or did you just leave them there waiting to be done?
If a bunch of tasks were sitting there waiting for the CPU to finish one after the other the times are skewed...
 

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 14:21:56 (permalink)
Yes, so to set them to 12 from 16 I put the config file back in.
Now I am change the AVX settings.

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 14:31:59 (permalink)
Yeah, I always abort the extra tasks right away. If looking for a prime you do not want tasks sitting around waiting.
Now I set it to use 10% of CPUs and they send just one.
First prime turned in gets the credit at the prime finder. I think they should give both credit as finders, but it's not the way it is.
 
If you want to do more than one, divide 100 by the number of cores and then multiply that by the number of tasks you want.
 
dual 8 core CPU want to run 2 tasks 8 cores each.
 
100 divided by 16 is 6.25. So to get just 2 tasks set the BOINC mgr to use only 6.25 x 2 = 12.5 set to 15% you get 2 tasks with 16 cores.

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 14:33:03 (permalink)
Dang. I do not have AVX 3 on this coffeelake CPU.

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 14:35:21 (permalink)
I can also set mine to 0 but I will test with 1 first.
So with the Cores set to 44 ADA64 now shows 43 as a low and peeks at 44 but never goes below 43.
 
Before http://www.primegrid.com/result.php?resultid=871191577
Run time 8,668.83
CPU time 8,668.83
After http://www.primegrid.com/result.php?resultid=871222042 
Run time 7,698.00
CPU time 8,300.45
I do see most users setting theirs to 4 Threads/Cores.
 
http://www.primegrid.com/result.php?resultid=871223264

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<core_client_version>7.8.3</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
BOINC llr wrapper (version 8.00)
Using Jean Penne's llr (64 bit)
LLR Program - Version 3.8.20, using Gwnum Library Version 28.13
LLR command line: primegrid_cllr.exe -d -oDiskWriteTime=1 -oThreadsPerTest=12 ..\..\projects\www.primegrid.com\llrMEGA_292935492
Using all-complex FMA3 FFT length 256K, Pass1=128, Pass2=2K, 12 threads, a = 7
16:31:36 (2700): called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>


 
Changing to 0 now.
This set and locks the CPU and shows in AIDA64, Thanks for this Tip Bill. 
Still have to update my ADA64 Page.....
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 18:39:12 (permalink)
I pushed it so far my UPS Overloaded (1050 was hitting 1120), running 2 CPU (10 Threads) and 2 GFN 20 so I had to set to run only One GPU Task.
Maybe my 1200 Watt PSU is also not enough Power.
 
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 22:16:05 (permalink)
Nice, 4.4 at 1.176v too, I think that's pretty good. Not seen any other CPUs like that, looks good to me.
 
I did get my ram to run at 3200 from 3000, no issues at all. But it is 15. 15. 15 .36 If I remember right.
Maybe I'll shoot for a little more speed or tighten the timings up. The ram is 1.35v, not sure what is safe voltage to bump it to.
I would think 1.4 if needed. Guess I better do some reading. This is the first DDR4 ram I have owned.
Can't complain, it was a nice little bundle newegg had for sale. Got to file for the 20$ rebate before I forget.
Get a 20$ card, maybe I will buy another AMD ramdrive software and run it on my server. I kind of like the ramdrive, crazy fast.

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 23:09:30 (permalink)
Bill, you are right about the dell monitors, I picked up a Dell S2417DG they are very sweet.


It is really nice, 24in, 2k resolution, 165mhz, G-Sync, the clearest screen I have ever used.
24 is the right size for my desk, all the room I have, it's enough.
I got a good price on a used one, much cheaper than new one goes for and it is in new condition with warranty left on it.
Can't find a thing to pick on it, well, I learned to turn off energy saver in the monitors menu, it can be a PITA, I found out.
But heck yeah, I would never hesitate again to buy a Dell monitor

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 23:22:21 (permalink)
I just got this to use with my laptop Dell U2417HA 24-Inch UltraSharp Infinity Edge Monitor
It mounts on the Bread Rack and not on the small table use with only a mouse and KB, save me a lot room.
 


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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 23:33:07 (permalink)
I am pushing my X299 Rig The Crunchinator (Completed) I am adding a Second PSU.
Using this Device to connect them Add2PSU Multiple Power Supply Adapter,ATX 24Pin to SATA Dual PSU Power Supply Sync
I need the Wattage to run the GPUs at Full Power and the 28 Threads.
Running a Single 16 Thread MT Task and Two GEN 20 Tasks it pushes the limits of my UPS 1080 Watts 102% but also my 1200 Watt PSU.
If I run 2 8 Thread MT Tasks and Two GEN 20 Tasks it pushes the limits of my UPS 1160 Watts 120% an the Alarm goes off.
 
 

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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/20 23:36:58 (permalink)
That's a good idea, nice mounting system.They do make nice monitors.
I was afraid the print maybe too small 2k on a 24inch. Its not bad at all.
The print is crisp and clean, much better than the 1080p BenQ it replaced. And I did like that one
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/21 15:59:24 (permalink)
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/21 18:23:37 (permalink)
NFS and X299 are not getting along Forum Post https://escatter11.fullerton.edu/nfs/forum_thread.php?id=695&postid=1830#1830
 
Faulting application name: lasieve5f_1.11_windows_x86_64.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Faulting module name: lasieve5f_1.11_windows_x86_64.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0x40000015
Fault offset: 0x0000000000055462
Faulting process id: 0x20c0
Faulting application start time: 0x01d393262c84cac2
Faulting application path: E:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\escatter11.fullerton.edu_nfs\lasieve5f_1.11_windows_x86_64.exe
Faulting module path: E:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\escatter11.fullerton.edu_nfs\lasieve5f_1.11_windows_x86_64.exe
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/21 20:00:12 (permalink)
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions 2018/01/22 12:23:14 (permalink)
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