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I’m getting back into gaming for 2018. Should I also be learning to mine? I plan to run a 1080ti in an eGPU
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/19 06:46:18 (permalink)
    mining is a good way to pay for the card, and if done casually could buy your next GPU so it'll be virtually free.


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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/19 09:04:24 (permalink)
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/19 11:08:53 (permalink)
    Chris21010
    mining is a good way to pay for the card, and if done casually could buy your next GPU so it'll be virtually free.


    That sounds like a win. Is there specific software that can direct my gpu to use it’s free energy for mining?

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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/19 11:37:35 (permalink)
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    ASICS have been created for SIA.  No more dual mining.

     

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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/20 08:33:48 (permalink)
    Well just to pitch in, I set up last night with Excavator miner to mine Zcash when idle. I spent like 4 hours trying to get Ethereum mining correctly but couldn't get it to go above 11MH/s. On Zcash I am averaging 429sol/s according to Nanopool, where as on the cmd window it is showing ~421sol/s. Unfortunately this is my first time mining, but once you get a handle on some of the -flags for the .BATs it is not too difficult. Ethereum mining was  a total failure, and this was with Optimize Compute Performance enabled on NVCP. 
     
    During my reading on ETH mining it seemed a lot of people had the same issue as me with Nvidia cards and that the solution was to roll drivers back to 347.something, which means for 980 Ti's you have no option for full performance mining on Windows 10 since that driver doesn't support the 980 Ti.
     
    It's not really about making huge money through mining, more just figuring it might help heat my apartment through winter. 
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/20 08:45:41 (permalink)
    if you are a casual gamer looking to earn some crypto the easiest way is nicehash.
     


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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/20 12:06:32 (permalink)
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/20 14:11:54 (permalink)
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    ASICS have been created for SIA.  No more dual mining.




     Announced, not in production yet.
     DCR is what Bitmain is selling it's newest model miners for - which will be killing dual-mining profits on that pretty quick.
     
     Other than the 1070 (sometimes) and the 1060 (sometimes) and the Titan Volta, ETH is not a good mining option for NVidia cards - they make more on quite a few other algorithms.
     IMO run the Nicehash "legacy" miner on your machine, then if you don't like Nicehash itself you at least have reasonably accurate hashrate figures to plug into mining calculators like whattomine to figure out what IS profitable on yout card at your settings.
     
    post edited by QuintLeo - 2018/01/22 21:12:59

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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/22 12:17:54 (permalink)
    I have 2 1080s that run nicehash when I'm not gaming. They are set at 75% power clocking around 1850 Mhz ~60°C. They generate about $10-$14 a day
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/22 12:18:57 (permalink)
    I have thought about solo mining but i havent figured out if it would be worth the effort to set it up or not 
     
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/22 13:35:44 (permalink)
    I have been mining eth with me 2 1080 ti's since it is worth more than double zcash i think it is better atm.

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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/22 13:40:00 (permalink)
    How much are you making with eth?
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/22 15:40:20 (permalink)
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    How much are you making with eth?

    $7 per day i think.

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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/22 15:43:35 (permalink)
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    How much are you making with eth?

    $7 per day i think.


    Ay thats not bad
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/22 21:17:06 (permalink)
    The 1080 ti earns a lot fewer ETH coins per day though, so your actual profits are normally higher on ZCash - and there are options that earn more than ZCash on the the 1080 ti most of the time.
    Nist5 of late has been quite nice for them, they also do well on coins using the lbry, LyraRE2v2, and Skein algorithms (but I think Baikal might have added Skein on their current ASIC model).
     
     

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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/23 08:14:29 (permalink)
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    if you are a casual gamer looking to earn some crypto the easiest way is nicehash.
     




     
    Agreed. I use them when I am not gaming. Always cool to make some extra money and there service is easy to use. 
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/23 12:34:29 (permalink)
    If you HAVE the hardware already, no reason not to earn a few spare $ with it.
     

    Now that vorsholk has stopped his abuse, I'm returning to folding.
     I no longer MOO due to abuses by certain "whales" in the Gridcoin community - so I now work the Distributed.net project directly again.
     
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/24 02:20:00 (permalink)
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    The 1080 ti earns a lot fewer ETH coins per day though, so your actual profits are normally higher on ZCash - and there are options that earn more than ZCash on the the 1080 ti most of the time.
    Nist5 of late has been quite nice for them, they also do well on coins using the lbry, LyraRE2v2, and Skein algorithms (but I think Baikal might have added Skein on their current ASIC model).
     
     




    It it looks like the mining difficulty of ETH went up so zcash could be the better way to go. I did an estimate on ZEK using crypocompare site it shows 80% difference but need to find away to trade it to usd.

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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/24 14:44:05 (permalink)
    ZEC -> ETH (Poloniex) or ZEC -> BTC (MANY exchanges), then BTC to Coinbase.
    Normal type route for most altcoins.
     
    Or just point your equihash miner at the NiceHash equihash pool with your Coinbase deposit address.
     

    Now that vorsholk has stopped his abuse, I'm returning to folding.
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/24 15:58:31 (permalink)
    QuintLeo
    ZEC -> ETH (Poloniex) or ZEC -> BTC (MANY exchanges), then BTC to Coinbase.
    Normal type route for most altcoins.
     
    Or just point your equihash miner at the NiceHash equihash pool with your Coinbase deposit address.
     


    I switched to nicehash and it saying i am getting about $13 usd per day in btc, nist5 rate is 172 mh/s. when i was mining eth my main card was 40c now it is 50c on water. 
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/24 23:06:23 (permalink)
    I've been mining VSX (xevan algo) while i'm not gaming....it's the best i've found that leaves my computer fairly usable for websurfing.  But i'm using a gtx 750 ti....so it's hardly a monster....but it's a quiet little kitten earning me like $0.50 a day.....not bad when that coin goes 1000x price (it's not actually on an exchange yet...so 1000 time zero is zero....i'm there already)....but when it does hit an exchange i hope to retire it and get a 1080 and then mount that 750 on the wall and give it a high five every morning.

     



     
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/27 15:47:49 (permalink)
    Been playing around with my personal rig before i went with the actual set up and umm... yeah was not a fan of how much stress they put on the card. I mean yeah I knew but I didn't really know and I'm not willing to blow out my V64 before I get my water cooling set up, up and running.
    Was using Claymore miner and avg'ed out at about 34mh/s with everything set at stock. However Wattman wasn't working out for me and finally figured out to uninstall the darn thing and went with Afterburner and was not happy to see even with my custom fan profile I was hitting 82c on HBM2 and was about 70c on core.
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/27 17:15:25 (permalink)
    That is why the vast majority of miners set their power target to 60-80%. That and because it's more power efficient to do so.


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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/27 21:29:45 (permalink)
    Vega is not a good ETH mining choice anyway - it does MUCH better mining Monero (XMR) and other Cryptonight coins.
    For perspective, AMD RX 470/570/480/580 cards can get into the 27-30 Mhash range with a BIOS mod to tighten up the memory timings - pulling ballpark 100-120 watts as I recall when undervolted and the core UNDERclocked a little but the memory pushed to the max.
    ETH is a VERY memory-intensive coin, and doesn't respond well to high latency like HBM/HBM2 and GDDR5x have - and on most cards it's not picky about core clocks at all as the cores are usually waiting on data a lot of the time anyway.
     
    Wattman is junk, always has been, Afterburner is a ton better.
    I'm not QUITE inclined to say that NOTHING is a better option than Wattman, but it's close.
     

    Now that vorsholk has stopped his abuse, I'm returning to folding.
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/27 22:08:45 (permalink)
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    That is why the vast majority of miners set their power target to 60-80%. That and because it's more power efficient to do so.

     
    I had the V64 since launch but didn't redo this set up till about last week. Only been mining since Thursday and nup...
    I still need to tweak this card so hopefully I'll find a the sweet spot.

    QuintLeo
    Vega is not a good ETH mining choice anyway - it does MUCH better mining Monero (XMR) and other Cryptonight coins.
    For perspective, AMD RX 470/570/480/580 cards can get into the 27-30 Mhash range with a BIOS mod to tighten up the memory timings - pulling ballpark 100-120 watts as I recall when undervolted and the core UNDERclocked a little but the memory pushed to the max.
    ETH is a VERY memory-intensive coin, and doesn't respond well to high latency like HBM/HBM2 and GDDR5x have - and on most cards it's not picky about core clocks at all as the cores are usually waiting on data a lot of the time anyway.
     
    Wattman is junk, always has been, Afterburner is a ton better.
    I'm not QUITE inclined to say that NOTHING is a better option than Wattman, but it's close.



    Thought V64 does well if you can push the HBM clocks to 1000?
    Probably won't mine with this set up at all and just leave it to the 580s for now.

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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/27 22:57:28 (permalink)
    QuintLeo
    Vega is not a good ETH mining choice anyway - it does MUCH better mining Monero (XMR) and other Cryptonight coins.
    For perspective, AMD RX 470/570/480/580 cards can get into the 27-30 Mhash range with a BIOS mod to tighten up the memory timings - pulling ballpark 100-120 watts as I recall when undervolted and the core UNDERclocked a little but the memory pushed to the max.
    ETH is a VERY memory-intensive coin, and doesn't respond well to high latency like HBM/HBM2 and GDDR5x have - and on most cards it's not picky about core clocks at all as the cores are usually waiting on data a lot of the time anyway.
     
    Wattman is junk, always has been, Afterburner is a ton better.
    I'm not QUITE inclined to say that NOTHING is a better option than Wattman, but it's close.
     




    When i had a titan V i was getting 83 mh/s on ETH after clocking the hbm2 to 1000 mhz 850 mhz was stock, core clock didn't matter. then again titan V has 80 sm so that might be where the power is. BTW titan V would only get around 5 usd per day with ETH right now.

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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/28 08:58:43 (permalink)
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    That is why the vast majority of miners set their power target to 60-80%. That and because it's more power efficient to do so.

     
    I had the V64 since launch but didn't redo this set up till about last week. Only been mining since Thursday and nup...
    I still need to tweak this card so hopefully I'll find a the sweet spot.

    QuintLeo
    Vega is not a good ETH mining choice anyway - it does MUCH better mining Monero (XMR) and other Cryptonight coins.
    For perspective, AMD RX 470/570/480/580 cards can get into the 27-30 Mhash range with a BIOS mod to tighten up the memory timings - pulling ballpark 100-120 watts as I recall when undervolted and the core UNDERclocked a little but the memory pushed to the max.
    ETH is a VERY memory-intensive coin, and doesn't respond well to high latency like HBM/HBM2 and GDDR5x have - and on most cards it's not picky about core clocks at all as the cores are usually waiting on data a lot of the time anyway.
     
    Wattman is junk, always has been, Afterburner is a ton better.
    I'm not QUITE inclined to say that NOTHING is a better option than Wattman, but it's close.



    Thought V64 does well if you can push the HBM clocks to 1000?
    Probably won't mine with this set up at all and just leave it to the 580s for now.


    Vega is ok at ETH but is a beast at Cryptonight.  You can get it to the point where you're doing 1800+ H/s and you'll be pulling in a much larger amount of cash with Cryptonight than you would with ETH.  Remember, mine smarter, not harder.

     

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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/28 10:07:21 (permalink)
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    I’m getting back into gaming for 2018. Should I also be learning to mine? I plan to run a 1080ti in an eGPU



    Nicehash would be the simplest solution without getting to deep into things.
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    Re: Gamers: Do you mine when you’re nothing not playing? 2018/01/28 12:11:28 (permalink)
    I'm seeing 1940 more or less out of my Vega 56 card. 1800 is actually a bit on the low side, unless you have RAM you can't push past the high 800 Mhz range on clock for some reason.
    Sweet spot on my card seems to be at 935 Mhz RAM clock - 940 gets unstable after a while.
     

    Now that vorsholk has stopped his abuse, I'm returning to folding.
     I no longer MOO due to abuses by certain "whales" in the Gridcoin community - so I now work the Distributed.net project directly again.
     
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