RicoF74
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Hi all, this is my first post here. I had built a new setup and opted for EVGA 970SC as graphics card. Once I noticed that the gfx fan was making a lot of noise and I thought the issue was with the fact that the weather was getting warmer. I live in Malta (Europe) and it can get pretty warm even inside. However I noticed that the issue was that one fan only was working. Since the 2 year warranty provided by seller I opted for RMA, and sent the card over. EVGA were kind enough and sent me a GFX970SSC (upgrade) but this card failed within one week. No display, and the fans not turning, hence sent this card back for RMA... This time EVGA were nicer and I got an FTW+.... (yeaaahh). Well I was so happy for 5 weeks... as I was playing Fortnite and the pc crashed... (screen froze). I rebooted and the pc just hangs on trying to load windows. EVGA support told me to check card on another system since it could be an issue with my PSU or motherboard, but I tried it on 3 different computers and same error. I could only boot in safe mode, and when I try to install the Nvidia driver the system hangs. EVGA support told me to submit ticket since I qualify for RMA, but since I was desperate I tried to flashed a custom firmware to the card, hoping to bring it back to life... end result NOTHING. So I would like to kindly ask whether you think that if send the card back to EVGA and they see there is a non-default firmware, will this void the RMA?? Thank you.
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/18 06:34:46
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cant say but sure sounds like you got more to that issue then the card , more like something is causing your cards to fail prematurely [ bad psu /voltage from it , bad motherboard or voltage regulation to its pci-e slots / bad or damaged pci-e slot ] those would be my first take on this . like running the cards under unstable power and that in turn causes the cards failing [?????] see ''I could only boot in safe mode, and when I try to install the Nvidia driver the system hangs.'' when in safe mode the card only get used in a default low power state with just the minimum it needs to start and display [safe] when you add NVidia driver that kicks in all the cards full power states then with the driver if it cant maintain full power states if fails like you say and may only boot to safe mode power state [bare min. to work and display] so if I were to guess I'd look at your system power regulation and outputs motherboard or psu failing to to hold stable full power draws as or when needed please list your system specs [motherboard / psu / ect....... ]
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RicoF74
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/18 07:44:46
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But the card did not work even in other sytems... My spec: CPU Intel i-5 4690 Mobo: Gigabyte ga-z97p-d3 PSU: beQuiet! System Power 7 700W NZXT Kraken x31 water cooling RAM 8GB Ballistix Samsung SSD 840 250GB
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/18 08:16:29
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before or after you ran it in yours ???? see, maybe the damage was done the moment you fired it up in yours at first .and now wount work in anything anyway ? I gues you could get 3 bad card back to back but that's like extremely super bad luck then theres this guy that's claims he been through plenty as well ?? https://forums.evga.com/Titan-X-not-going-pcie-3x-anymore-2nd-card-m2632748.aspx ''Because it's based on FSP Raider the voltage regulation is really bad. It also doesn't like cross loading and because of that it's better that you don't use the new C6 and C7 power states with this PSU. Better yet, don't buy it.'' http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13164 thing is your build psu and motherboard are regional out side of the USA sold parts and seems not ever available here in the USA ... so its hard to look up anything on my end like here from the amazon UK look at the 1 and 2 star reviews and all the died after a few months / after a year could be possible your board has fallen in that category ?? I guess next card you get better test it well and good in another system first 1 card bad = bad luck 2ed card bad = hmmmm...... real bad luck ???? 3ed card something else must be up with that best start to look at something outside the card [opinion] we all get a lemon from time to time , but ?????
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/18 09:50:07
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While I agree with Dr.Death, that it's very uncommon to have to 3 cards fail within that short of time, it's also not uncommon to see refurbished cards fail hours to weeks later, after receiving them. I've personally had 2 replacement cards fail in a similar fashion. The last being a 660 Ti, which lasted a few weeks before failing. I baked in the oven for about 8min(card was no longer under warranty) which brought it back to life for another week before it finally gave up the ghost for good. My personal experience with refurbs is a hit or miss. Now whether OP got a refurb, return, or a new card who knows. But again, very unlikely, i'd also be aiming towards PSU or Motherboard.
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/18 10:10:33
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well evga claims '' a thoroughly tested recertified product '' ''Products sent in for RMA will be repaired and returned or replaced with a thoroughly tested recertified product of equal or greater performance.'' I got to agree turn in a ''first quality new'' card and get someone else's rma referb junk back ? I can see where I could loose any trust of a solid replacement part if I wanted or needed a referb I would of bought one to start with [opinion] then tested how ?? some guy stick it in to a pci-e slot and see a display and calles it good ??? 12hrs of firestrike stress test ??? thing is with a rma your fully at evga [or whoevers ] mercy and could be told NO rma, sorry just as easy
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/18 14:52:20
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RicoF74 So I would like to kindly ask whether you think that if send the card back to EVGA and they see there is a non-default firmware, will this void the RMA?? Thank you.
Yes, it will void the warranty. You need to flash the original vbios back onto the card before sending it in.
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/18 15:18:13
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The 970 FTW+ has Dual BIOS..Last I knew, you can RMA as long as one BIOS is an original/approved BIOS, unless that's changed now.
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/18 15:40:51
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bob16314 Last I knew, you can RMA as long as one BIOS is an original/approved BIOS, unless that's changed now.
Where did you see that?
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/18 17:17:26
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Sajin
bob16314 Last I knew, you can RMA as long as one BIOS is an original/approved BIOS, unless that's changed now.
Where did you see that?
I also remember an EVGA tech or rep stating that a while ago. Not that I can dredge up the post, though.
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/18 17:47:47
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Sajin
bob16314 Last I knew, you can RMA as long as one BIOS is an original/approved BIOS, unless that's changed now.
Where did you see that?
Poked around for a little bit and found Post #3 here..Can't right off find a couple other posts I seen from EVGA Techs that I thought they said it's okay.
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/19 06:07:14
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I found this in a thread EVGA_MatthewH Flashing a BIOS not provided directly from EVGA would fall under modifications: - The product must be returned to EVGA in the original factory configuration and condition. All aftermarket modifications must be reversed before sending in the product for replacement.
I guess you could assume that means on all 2 bios's under that '' original factory configuration and condition '' then I have see evga techs contradict themselves with statements on the same thing not the same ?? bottom page one ''puddles '' also see this https://forums.evga.com/New-980-ti-hybrid-radiator-fan-constantly-on-full-speed-m2453739.aspx may come down to what side of the bed the evga guy got up from when he gets a hold of your card at there shop ...lol...
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/19 08:50:27
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From our Warranty Page, under Product Condition: - Unauthorized changes to the BIOS or Firmware on graphics card that do not have a Multiple BIOS option may cause this warranty to be null and void.
As long as at least one of the BIOSes is stock there shouldn't be any issues.
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/19 09:45:42
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EVGATech_BrandonS From our Warranty Page, under Product Condition:
- Unauthorized changes to the BIOS or Firmware on graphics card that do not have a Multiple BIOS option may cause this warranty to be null and void.
As long as at least one of the BIOSes is stock there shouldn't be any issues.
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Re: GTX970SC up to GTX970FTW FAIL
2017/12/19 10:08:55
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maybe add/ footnote that in the warrantee support / terms page ?? that's not as said '' The product must be returned to EVGA in the original factory configuration and condition '' change any bios and that's a change to that '' original factory configuration and condition'' clause or a scapegoat item , cause its not original ?? [opinion] in the end as long as your approved that's all that maters
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