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2017/11/07 10:13:57 (permalink)
Hello. I am just asking.
Maybe this is coincidence and i am worrying about nothing. So listen...

2 days ago after turning on kitchen, fuse was tripped and i get power outage. When power back after this i booted pc fine but i saw that Windows 10 desktop refresh changed itself from 144hz to lower value ( i dont remember to which ) . To restore again 144hz , i turned off monitor ,turned again on. And its fine.

Why that happened? I tried to reproduce this issue, by turning off computer and booting again but it never repeat.

And my question is . That was coincidence that after power outage my Windows 10 monitor refresh was changed or not? Thank you.

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Sorry maybe this is stupid question but i want to be sure. And please dont ban me. Thank you

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/07 11:55:19 (permalink)
    Sounds like you changed it to a different refresh rate at one point and forgot about it.
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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/07 12:52:25 (permalink)
    Nah i dont change for sure

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/07 16:13:43 (permalink)
    I wouldn't worry about it, probably just some gremlins. 
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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/08 12:20:25 (permalink)
    well if everything was running fine until you had the power outage...
     i think your going to be fine.

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/08 12:46:02 (permalink)
    If Win 10 updated your OS files or Nvidia drivers -- that is probably why you saw a change "On Reboot"
     
    Some updates changes that are "loaded" do Not take effect until after the PC restarts

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/08 13:02:35 (permalink)
    Yeah maybe you are right. But if i remember correctly i dont saw any updates on my system just before that power outage.

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 08:19:02 (permalink)
    Like i said i have the newest nvidia drivers.

    It happened not immidiately ( not on pc first power on ) power outage.
    But on second time ( second turn ) when i boot to Windows 10. On my second turning on pc, second boot to windows. So not immediately after power outage. It happened very short time after power outage ( my second turn on computer ).

    To make again 144hz i turned off monitor and turn back on again.


    So that was power outage related or not?

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 08:35:20 (permalink)
    "After turning on kitchen" How many rooms are on the circuit that tripped?
     Another question is your computer in the kitchen?
    Breakers get old also and sometimes they need to be replaced too.
    If it's not a continuing problem I wouldn't worry to much. 
    Turn off things you don't need extra lights and what not.
     
     
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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 08:46:40 (permalink)
    Maybe, as power interruption does not allow Windows to do its proper save & shutdown routine ...
     
    Could be Win 10 on restart did not properly identify the monitor, so it changed the refresh.
     
    If it happens again, before changing anything or power off/ on monitor, look in Device Manager and see how your Monitor is listed
     
    Maybe one of the other Forum members has a different idea or knows which log file to look at
     
    If it has not happened again, I would not be concerned

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 08:54:47 (permalink)
    :). I was running Fire strike benchmark and then my mother turn on kitchen in other room and fuse was tripped + i get power outage. So i get power outage during fire strike benchmark.
    Next, when fuse was changed i boot pc again and all was fine , refresh 144hz all normal.
    But after moment i close computer by button SHUTDOWN in Windows 10. After 5 minutes i turn on pc again,and refresh was changed to lower value than 144hz. To revert 144hz i just turn off monitor and turn on back again. Thats all.
     

    Sorry for my bad language , really apologize. Hope you understand. My pc is in small room,not in kitchen.

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 09:06:20 (permalink)
    The first thing you need to do is to move the PC power plug onto a circuit not on the same line as the kitchen

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 09:11:31 (permalink)
    But when fuse was tripped i get power outage in all house.In all rooms.

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 09:52:35 (permalink)
    tmmy34, Fuse or breaker. A fuse is an antiquated single use disposable device to provide overcurrent protection.
    Fuse > Breaker >
    But anyway. Was this the main breaker of the power panel?
    The main breaker is the biggest breaker and should be a two-pole (in some cases four-pole) that feeds the two buses for all of the other breakers in the panel than feed the branch circuits of the house.
     
     

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 10:09:24 (permalink)
    When kitchen was turned on, all power in house just went out. And later we just add new fuse.
    And then power back on.

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 10:45:00 (permalink)
    I understand what you are writing but...
    What is "turn on kitchen"? What do you mean by the kitchen was or got turned on? Powering on kitchen = ________
     
    Could be that just before the "all power in house just went out" their was a voltage spike and could have altered your monitor to a lower (factory stock setting?) refresh rate.
     

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 11:02:59 (permalink)
    Pc was running in fire strike benchmark.
    At the same time my mother was powering on kitchen. 
    And then power went out in house.
    Then she go to shop and buy new fuse.
    Later a friend replaced fuse  and power back on in house.
     
    When power back. I booted pc firs time and all was fine, refresh 144hz . But then i turn off pc . Go rest to bed. After 30 minutes i turn pc on again. And then windows 10 booted with lower refresh than 144hz. To revert 144hz i turn off monitor and turn back on. Sorry for language. Really apologize. Understand?
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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 11:30:09 (permalink)
    So your family keeps the power to the whole kitchen off until needed?
    Is the kitchen being worked on or renovated? This would make sense so no one gets electrocuted.
    Or a standard practice.. a daily event... normal operations?
     
    But back to the issue, are you getting this refresh rate indication from Windows or seeing it in the monitor's settings?
     
    Edit: Just curious but where are are you? What is your geographical location?
     
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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/20 12:08:11 (permalink)
    When power back, i booted pc and all was fine. 144HZ on start in Windows 10. Then i turn off pc, and turn on again after 30 minutes. When i booted to windows 10 i see clearly that refresh is lower. Then i turn off monitor, turn on again and 144hz back. I dont check Windows 10 settings at this time. I only rebooted monitor.
     
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    Power went out when my mother was powering on electric oven in kitchen. Sorry again for mistake and bad language.
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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/21 09:09:32 (permalink)
    Well from a technical standpoint, I would think the monitor has suffered a voltage spike or even under voltage and maybe damaged. If the monitor keeps reverting to a lower refresh rate when turning it on after a period of time of being off or after the power goes out repeatedly it could be only the beginning of problems especially the keeps dropping out inexplicably.
     
    Electrical equipment are sensitive to current changes high and low and should be plugged into a steady/stable supply of power. One low cast line of defense would be a surge protector but only useful for when voltage spikes higher than the rating of protector. Pricier options would be an Uninterruptible Power Supply or UPS in short.
     
    Bottom line is a computer and it's peripherals should be plugged into a known reliable and stable power source. 
     
    Edit: In the mean time, talk to your family and ask them to inform you when they might go to turn on the electric oven in kitchen so that you can turn off your computer and if the power does go out it could minimize any impact to it.
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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/21 10:41:22 (permalink)
    So what now? Something wrong with monitor? 
     
     
    You said:", I would think the monitor has suffered a voltage spike or even under voltage and maybe damaged. If the monitor keeps reverting to a lower refresh rate when turning it on after a period of time of being off or after the power goes out repeatedly it could be only the beginning of problems especially the keeps dropping out inexplicably."
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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/21 12:03:46 (permalink)
    i think your fine. i would definitely purchase a quality ups for your system. if this happens again theres a good chance your hardware could be damaged. i would get something like this
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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/21 12:12:35 (permalink)
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    Like i said i have the newest nvidia drivers.

    It happened not immidiately ( not on pc first power on ) power outage.
    But on second time ( second turn ) when i boot to Windows 10. On my second turning on pc, second boot to windows. So not immediately after power outage. It happened very short time after power outage ( my second turn on computer ).

    To make again 144hz i turned off monitor and turn back on again.


    So that was power outage related or not?


    You need to get your rig off that outlet and on its own low usage outlet or your gonna lose all your parts eventually. Also, it doesn't matter if you had the latest gpu driver with win 10, they will force update your pc anyway, hence all the screaming and yelling when they pushed that crap out on us.

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/22 02:44:37 (permalink)
    Ok so listen. This not happened again. I turn off pc for overnight ( after a period of time of being off ),and turn on in morning and all fine. Windows 10 boot with 144hz. So this happened once after power outage. What you think. It was related to outage or coincidence ?

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/24 16:13:46 (permalink)
    its definately related to the power outtage. its like forcing a shut down by flipping the psu switch. you will almost certainly have windows issues after if it happens again. get a ups if you dont already have one.

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/26 09:09:34 (permalink)
    Really sorry for my language. If i can i explain this more clearly.

    Pc was running in fire strike benchmark with monitor ON.
    At the same time my mother was powering on electric oven in kitchen.
    And then power went out in house.

    Just before power went out, pc was running in Fire Strike test, and monitor was on. 
    When power went out,pc goes off and monitor goes off.

    When power back ,monitor turns on itself . Then I booted pc , all was looking fine, Windows 10 booted with 144hz

    But after moment I shutdown pc by clicking shutdown in Windows 10 and I manually turned off monitor.
    After 30 minutes ,first I turn on manually monitor,then I boot pc again. Windows 10 booted with lower refresh than 144hz.( on nvidia panel still 144hz )
     

    To restore 144hz I just turned off monitor and turn on again. And this not happened since.
     
    And I am not able to reproduce. Turning off pc few times and booting again,and nothing,still 144hz. Even I cut power 3 times to check,but still 144hz on boot.

    So maybe that was glitch.windows,system,drivers or something but not related to that power outage? Or maybe power outage was the reason, but the problem didn´t show up immediately?

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/26 10:43:58 (permalink)
    so the main fuse blew and shut down all the power to the house correct? just so people understand. it has happen to me before, those fuses only last so long. as for the change i think the sudden power loss had something to do with it but i wouldnt worry to much if everything is working good now.

                                   
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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/26 11:01:59 (permalink)
    yes fuse blew and shut down all the power to the house correct

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/11/30 12:20:12 (permalink)
    Ok i know you say for sure that i am stupid, but i agreed. I cut power to pc few times to reproduce issue exactly like on this day. But i cant reproduce. Pc booting and restarting exactly with 144hz.
     
    So why it happened just once? Can somebody explain me? Something related to outage or just random glitch?

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    Re: After turned kitchen - fuse tripped - power outage - question pc. 2017/12/11 03:49:05 (permalink)
    I am living in Poland. I try explain more clear issue.

    My pc was running in 3dmark. Then in moment when my mother turn on oven in kitchen power goes out. Reason was bulb inside oven. All house without power. Then she goes to fuse box and something change i dont know what exactly. But power back to electrical outlets in house. Only lights was still off. Lightning at home was off and not able to turn on back. So if power to electrical outlets back i try to run pc. Windows 10 booted first time with 144hz without issue. But after moment i shutdown pc by clicking shutdown in Windows. And after moment i booted pc again ( second time ) and in this moment Windows 10 booted with lower refresh than 144hz,that was propably 120hz or 60hz . To revert 144hz i just turn off monitor and turn back again. Thats all.

    House was still without lightning. Only electrical outlets was powered.

    And my question is.

    That refresh thing was related to fuse,monitor firmware or just system? House on this moment was without lightning only electrical outlets was with power.


    Later after changed fuse ( when lighting in home back ) when i tried to reproduce issue , i cutted few times power and i cant reproduce. Pc booting ,shutdown,restarting with 144hz still.

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