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2017/11/12 18:03:05 (permalink)
Hi everyone, I have been running this board 24/7 for the last 7 years.
I run it extremely hard, primarily for 3D rendering, dynamics simulations, and visual effects, often times rendering for 140 to 200 hours at full CPU load none stop.
I am always running the latest OSX on it (currently on Sierra)

I recently wanted to give it an update, and dropped in a GTX 1080TI SC hybrid. (It had a GTX 680 Classified)

I am however only getting 58fps on cinebench R15 on the new card, while I got about 55fps on the GTX680.
I have other machines running at about 130fps on GTX 1080ti's on the same OS, but on newer, but less powerful single sockets. (i7 7700k)

It's really, really disappointing to get this low performance on the EVGA SR-2
A little relief is found in Octane render (GPU 3D render engine) it scores closer to newer machines, pretty much on par. (GPU computation over frames per second)

I just wanted to see if anyone else is running the GTX 1080ti on their SR2s, and what cinebench OpenGL score they are getting. Since most people will be running Windows, by process of elimination, I am trying to see if it's an Mac OS thing, or simply that the GTX1080ti just runs this slow in cinebench OpenGL on 1366 architecture.

The reason the cinebench score matters to me is because I literally work in Maxon's Cinema 4D for my work... so it's a practical benchmark for me. I was really expecting double the performance I am getting now, albeit a little slower obviously, than on newer boards.... but only 2fps faster than an old GTX 680 is either fishy or just very disappointing.

Any help on this would be appreciated... I'm hoping to extend my beloved SR2 another few years.


System set up:
CPU: Dual Xeon X5650 @ 3.2Ghz
GPU: GTX 1080ti SC hybrid
RAM: 1866 24GB Memory
OS: Mac OSX 10.12 "Sierra"
Samsung EVO 1T SSD
1000W PSU
(Original BIOS I think)


Thanking you in advance
Regards
Chris
post edited by Howzit - 2017/11/12 18:10:57
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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/11/15 23:07:49 (permalink)
    Any thoughts on this?
    I suppose these boards are far and few between these days.
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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/11/17 08:28:56 (permalink)
    This board is build for Windows.
    maby u get better help on hackintosh SR2 forums

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/11/17 11:44:06 (permalink)
    Cinebench is absolutely CPU limited (single core speed limited even), you are not testing your GPU when you run it, you're testing your CPU, which is why the systems with newer CPUs perform better and you see little difference between the 680 and 1080ti.
     
    I am not familiar enough with Cinema 4D to know if it has the same CPU limitations, probably depends on your workload.
     
    Some discussion and benchmark numbers here: http://forums.cgsociety.o...dex.php?t-1126480.html
     
     
    post edited by somethingc00l - 2017/11/17 11:48:23
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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/11/17 13:08:22 (permalink)

    Cinebench is absolutely CPU limited (single core speed limited even), you are not testing your GPU when you run it, you're testing your CPU, which is why the systems with newer CPUs perform better and you see little difference between the 680 and 1080ti.

     
    You do realize that he is talking about the OpenGL (= gpu) test ?

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/11/17 13:19:56 (permalink)
    Hey somethingc00l, yes cinebench is a good CPU benchmark, and in addition, it has a GPU benchmark as well.
    As you might know it also happens to be a 3D package that is used in production, so in my case, it's actually not just a benchmark for academic comparisons, but it's actually my working/production software.

    Robanswe, yes, it is a Hackintosh, and figured my question would indeed get minimal responses, as there isn't such a wide user base running OSX on a windows mb.
    Where might I find the hackintosh SR2 forum?
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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/11/17 13:33:24 (permalink)
    Hm, I get 90 FPS with a 1080 (no Ti) on a EVGA X58 FTW3 with the same cpu, but on Windows.
    Theoretically I have Hackintosh installed on my second SSD but I highly doubt that it is going to boot since I installed it with other hardware (Z97 with i5-4690k, GTX 970). I can try tho ..
     
    Edit: But I don't know if its relevant for you as I don't own the SR2, just a single socket mainboard (on the same platform tho).

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/11/18 16:02:01 (permalink)
    perkyagnostic
    Hm, I get 90 FPS with a 1080 (no Ti) on a EVGA X58 FTW3 with the same cpu, but on Windows.
    Theoretically I have Hackintosh installed on my second SSD but I highly doubt that it is going to boot since I installed it with other hardware (Z97 with i5-4690k, GTX 970). I can try tho ..
     
    Edit: But I don't know if its relevant for you as I don't own the SR2, just a single socket mainboard (on the same platform tho).




     
    Mmmm, ok. thank you, this helps me narrow it down a little. Sounds like its leaning more towards the OS than the limitation of hardware between the 1080ti and LGA1366 sockets
     
    Thanks again
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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/11/22 05:24:16 (permalink)
    My tests says GTx 780 and forward no good on SR2 for cuda rendering.
    used to run 7 gtx780 in One sr-2.
    ( It did work )
    In theory it would give a rendering boost
    With cuda.
    But they did not.
    My sr2 is back with a new build: with 7 watercooled GTX580, new watercooling setup, bigger radiators faster pumps and 19" Rswe chassi,, it render fast as hell.

    U probably need to
    Buy a newer mobo that works with the gpus.

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/11/22 09:46:42 (permalink)
    Where might I find the hackintosh SR2 forum ?
    Use Google

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/12/07 19:25:17 (permalink)
    Robbanswe
    Where might I find the hackintosh SR2 forum ?
    Use Google

    Just getting back to you.
    I used goggle.
    I couldnt find a hackintosh SR2 forum. I even tried advanced search tools.
    Seems like there are not a lot of SR2 hackintosh people that have an SR2, running as a hackintosh, and willing to make a forum.I did find a thread somewhere called the "hackinbeast" but that was mainy a bragging rights thread. Pretty impressive though.
     
    Be it as it may, iv had a new issue.
    My machine reboots without warning sometimes. It always doesnt boot up sometimes after shutting down on its own. Its does a very very, very short momentary light up, then just dies, then does it again, over and over and over. Each little burst of power is like half a second, then it completely shuts down.
     
    Have any of you ever seen this?
    My suspicions are potentially bad ram, failing power supply, or non-use of the optional two 6pin power supply next to the CPUs?
    IV never run the optional power, so i dont know why it would become an issue now, unless somehow, the new 1080ti is drawing more power than the machine is used to?
    I also added a new 4K monitor to the mix. I wonder if it has anything to do with that?
    I will run it with my old dual 30" Apple cinema displays next week and see if the reboots/shut downs go away.
    I had added the other ram slots with another 6 modules, filling up the stacks, but after removing them again, the issue persists. I had thought the addtonal ram was pulling just enough power to go beyond the threshold whereby i would need the additional 6pin power.
    As of right now, the machine is running what it has run for the last 7 years except for a new 1080ti and 4K monitor.
    The machine worked flawlessly after adding the 1080ti for a few weeks, so im dont think its the 1080ti...... very confusing.
    post edited by Howzit - 2017/12/07 19:30:29
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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/12/15 07:16:35 (permalink)
    check the coolingsystem and powersupplys
    I burn up a 1000W powersupply last week when rendering :-(
     
     

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2017/12/15 07:37:01 (permalink)
    My Multimedia SR-2 ,,x5690 4680mhz,,, working flawless.
    4x256GB SSD in raid 0
    2x clonebackups on 3,5HDs.
    Fantastic maschine

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2018/03/18 05:27:02 (permalink)
    only for the stats:
    my machine is on 110,05 fps in the cinebench. One core was on around 85% usage.
     
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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2018/03/18 05:40:21 (permalink)
    LKrieger
    only for the stats:
    my machine is on 110,05 fps in the cinebench. One core was on around 85% usage.
     
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    That's a very fine score.

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2018/03/24 03:19:41 (permalink)
    GTX 580 from 2010.
    downclocked from 795mhz to 700mhz on gpu,,memory from 4000mhz to 3000mhz
    and only 0,9volt.
     
    117 in cinebench
    post edited by Robbanswe - 2018/03/24 04:44:35

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2018/03/24 11:21:27 (permalink)
    Seems like something with the bios and or this board, the x5650 clocks to 4ghz in the bios but is stock in windows 10, it's like the buss is locked at 133mhz and only turbo's up to 2.9ghz 
    They were saying I would need the i7 980x unlocked chip to overclock actually.   But like the Sabertooth or UD3R and whatever evga board I think can clock it....blows man. 
    Need to find a good deal on a board, I know the chip is good.  O well, should be having the Z boards back soon enough. 
     
    I ordered too Supermicro's take on the z270 also looks like a cool board and is powerful too in the vrms. So I'll have like 3 z boards should be a retailer lol

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2018/06/15 14:41:32 (permalink)
    Was researching if it was time to give up the old SR-2 when I came across this topic on a google search, lol.
     
    Just adding more data comparison.
     
    My SR-2 with Windows 10 Pro, X5680's Hyperthreading off @4.13Mhz, 24 gig mem @1650Mhz,  Gtx1080 sli off Cinebench R15 score 107.63 fps.
     
     

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2018/06/20 06:57:44 (permalink)
    Use overclocking tool.
    Set 2D speed same as 3D all time.
    usually 2D is 50-200mhz low power.and 3D is over 700mhz max power.
    If running Cinebench in windows and 2D/3D is on 3D mhz setting u will get a better score.
    because cinebench uses 2D mhz setting .

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2019/03/06 12:25:16 (permalink)
    hate to bring up an old thread but since there are actually EVGA SR-2 with recent Nvidia GPU owners here, how do your systems hold up to 1070+ GTX cards in games?  do your CPU bottleneck the GPU?  considering to run a 1070 or better and SLi later down the road but was curious how well these aged mobos can handle the new cards.

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2019/03/06 14:22:04 (permalink)
    single cpu 1366 can hold 2070 fine.

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2019/03/06 14:27:19 (permalink)
    well my system isn't a single 1366, it's a dual 1366 but if a single handles a 1366, I may go that route.  do you play any BFV?  what kinda FPS do you push on games that you do play?  don't notice any bottlenecks with 2070?

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2019/03/06 16:29:45 (permalink)
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    well my system isn't a single 1366, it's a dual 1366 but if a single handles a 1366, I may go that route.  do you play any BFV?  what kinda FPS do you push on games that you do play?  don't notice any bottlenecks with 2070?

    With a single 2070, you're going to be leaving ~20% behind depending upon the title and resolution compared with newer CPUs.  SLI will only exacerbate it. You'd probably gain more performance going with a single 2070 and updating to a new platform versus going SLI for the vast majority of use cases. At some point, the X58 becomes a sunk cost.
     

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2019/03/06 16:48:53 (permalink)
    thanks for the response but I don't use this for just gaming.  the reason as to why I still want to keep this dated system is because I love the speedy core / thread count for VM tasks.  I just love being able to game on it as well.  I am asking about how this specific MB with higher end Pascal / Turing GPU does in gaming is for pure curiosity after I use the additional GPU computing power for AI / ML.

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2019/03/06 18:42:42 (permalink)
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    thanks for the response but I don't use this for just gaming.  the reason as to why I still want to keep this dated system is because I love the speedy core / thread count for VM tasks.  I just love being able to game on it as well.  I am asking about how this specific MB with higher end Pascal / Turing GPU does in gaming is for pure curiosity after I use the additional GPU computing power for AI / ML.



    I realize that, being around here for a long time.... But clearly, your SLI question is intended for GAMING, so that is the context in which I answered. And within that context, what I posted is accurate.

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2019/03/06 20:49:33 (permalink)
    not entirely, SLi is for the added cheaper GPU computing power vs newer Turing GPU, just not sure if Tensor is all that incredibly faster for AI / ML applications

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2019/03/06 21:30:13 (permalink)
    have not benchmark it with battlefield v, from the fps i have enabled on the screen i see fps go from 70 to 100+ all on ultra with DXR disabled.my cpu goes 90-95%.its the only game i see go so high the cpu.
    wolfenstein 2 uses 50-70% cpu only on ultra.
    for gaming sli is not needed ,get the 2080 for sure you will be able to handle it.

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2019/03/06 23:10:21 (permalink)
    Got 2x SR-2.
    Have not tested with 1xxx/2xxx
    Oc to 4500mhz,disable HT, no turbo, run ddr3 memory 1800mhz+ and it will probably run smooth.

    Some x58 users run newer gpus with good peformance so try :-)

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2019/03/06 23:15:36 (permalink)
    what's the max amount of drives you've run on your 2X SR-2?  I tried to install a RAID card and the 8 drives I currently have disappear and only the 8 drives on the RAID show up, is 8 the allowable max?

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    Re: SR2 1366 and EVGA GTX 1080ti 2019/03/07 08:10:40 (permalink)
    8 allowed max:No
    u can use multiple raidkontrollers in same system, probably a conflict with internal and raidcontroller.
    Put raid kontroller on pcie 5/6 and try again
    post edited by Robbanswe - 2019/03/07 08:19:35

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