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2017/10/14 01:35:00 (permalink)
hi Guys been a while
 
I am after any info on the possibility of been able to boot windows from a PCIe drive, I understand that NVMe support is limited on the x79  but have reed some tales online of modded bios modules which to be honest is a little above me.
Have any of you guys tried or know of any success?

 
 
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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 01:46:27 (permalink)
    What are you using to boot Windows at this time?

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 02:02:51 (permalink)
    There is a guide here but since it involves modifying your BIOs I can't officially support it:
     
    http://www.win-raid.com/t871f16-Guide-How-to-get-full-NVMe-support-for-all-Systems-with-an-AMI-UEFI-BIOS.html
     
    Otherwise install a normal SSD if you boot from a normal mechanical Hard Drive.

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 07:48:55 (permalink)
    Hi rj
    at the moment 2x corsair 120 gt in raid 0
     
    its quick but after using 1 pcie drive  for my FSX files it did improve the blur and stutter issues, i am inquisitive to see if having the os and the rest of FSX on a pcie drive would help further still

     
     
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    X79 DARK 3940k (4.4oc), corsair Platinum 2133mhz,Evga GTX580 2way sli, mountain mod assention,
     
     
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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 07:50:25 (permalink)
    rjohnson11
    There is a guide here but since it involves modifying your BIOs I can't officially support it:
     
    http://www.win-raid.com/t871f16-Guide-How-to-get-full-NVMe-support-for-all-Systems-with-an-AMI-UEFI-BIOS.html
     
    Otherwise install a normal SSD if you boot from a normal mechanical Hard Drive.


    i have seen that page and i am not to keen to go down that path like yourself

     
     
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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 08:49:39 (permalink)
    fusionssl
    Hi rj
    at the moment 2x corsair 120 gt in raid 0
     
    its quick but after using 1 pcie drive  for my FSX files it did improve the blur and stutter issues, i am inquisitive to see if having the os and the rest of FSX on a pcie drive would help further still


    If you have the need for speed then I recommend you save your cash and upgrade the motherboard, CPU, and memory. Also buy an NVMe. That should really speed up things for you.

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 11:13:56 (permalink)
    I am using a Samsung 950pro in one x79
    And HyperX Predator in another X79
    The HyperX is faster than my SATA3 6gb and the Samsung is faster than the HyperX
    I did not have to do anything special to get them to work. Going to put one in my X58 Classified3 too
    Find them used on Ebay or a forum to get cheaper prices, shop around.
     
    Using this adapter
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-Hyper-M-2-X4-Mini-Expansion-Card/381662944565?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
    or built in this
    https://www.newegg.com/Pr..._-20-104-544-_-Product
     
    EDIT
    https://www.newegg.com/Pr..._-20-104-542-_-Product
     
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/S...1ea:g:DOYAAOSwa8dZxUz3

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 13:01:31 (permalink)
    The Samsung Pros kick butt whether M2 or SSD. 

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 16:05:42 (permalink)
    Kingston 240GB HyperX Predator PCIe Gen2 x4 (M.2 2280) SHPM2280P2/240G
    With a M2 x PCIE 4 adapor
     
     
    Here are the results spinner disk.
     SATA3 7200rpm
    CrystalDiskMark 5.2.2 x64 (C) 2007-2017 hiyohiyo
                               Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
     
    TEST 1
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
    * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

       Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :    88.867 MB/s
      Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :    84.660 MB/s
      Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :     1.574 MB/s [   384.3 IOPS]
     Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :     1.788 MB/s [   436.5 IOPS]
             Sequential Read (T= 1) :    88.932 MB/s
            Sequential Write (T= 1) :    84.519 MB/s
       Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :     0.928 MB/s [   226.6 IOPS]
      Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :     1.756 MB/s [   428.7 IOPS]

      Test : 100 MiB [E: 14.1% (131.2/931.5 GiB)] (x1)  [Interval=5 sec]
      Date : 2017/09/09 0:09:15
        OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 15063] (x64)
     
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
     
    TEST 2
     
     

     
    SATA3 6gb SSD
    CrystalDiskMark 5.2.2 x64 (C) 2007-2017 hiyohiyo
                               Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/

    * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
    * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

       Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :   456.683 MB/s
      Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :   295.047 MB/s
      Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   286.757 MB/s [ 70009.0 IOPS]
     Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   197.243 MB/s [ 48155.0 IOPS]
             Sequential Read (T= 1) :   451.103 MB/s
            Sequential Write (T= 1) :   401.662 MB/s
       Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :    26.012 MB/s [  6350.6 IOPS]
      Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :    43.624 MB/s [ 10650.4 IOPS]

      Test : 100 MiB [C: 44.0% (104.4/237.4 GiB)] (x1)  [Interval=5 sec]
      Date : 2017/09/09 0:06:25
        OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 15063] (x64)
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
     
    test 3
     
     

     
    PCIE SSD HyperX in an adapter
     
    CrystalDiskMark 5.2.2 x64 (C) 2007-2017 hiyohiyo
                               Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
    * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
    * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

       Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :  1415.340 MB/s
      Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :   673.079 MB/s
      Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   419.373 MB/s [102386.0 IOPS]
     Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   308.279 MB/s [ 75263.4 IOPS]
             Sequential Read (T= 1) :  1271.740 MB/s
            Sequential Write (T= 1) :   679.410 MB/s
       Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :    32.399 MB/s [  7909.9 IOPS]
      Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :    65.382 MB/s [ 15962.4 IOPS]

      Test : 100 MiB [F: 0.1% (0.1/223.6 GiB)] (x1)  [Interval=5 sec]
      Date : 2017/09/09 0:03:54
        OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 15063] (x64)
     
     
    I'll do the 950pro later, it was a bunch faster than the hyperX, the hyperx is gen2, still faster than sata3 SSD

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 19:25:07 (permalink)
    * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
    * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

       Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :    88.867 MB/s
      Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :    84.660 MB/s
     
    Why did you show me that? Now I have to have one. 

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 19:59:44 (permalink)
    That was from a standard sata3 spinner disk 7200 rpm
     
     

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 20:03:33 (permalink)
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    * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
    * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

      Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :    88.867 MB/s
    Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :    84.660 MB/s
     
    Why did you show me that? Now I have to have one. 




    That was a spinner HD 7200 rpm sata3
     
    Here is the PCIE hyperx
      Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :  1415.340 MB/s
      Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :   673.079 MB/s

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 20:17:41 (permalink)
    I edited that post to make it more clear that there was 3 tests with 3 drives done.
    A spinner SATA3 6gb HD 7200 rpm
    A SATA3 6gb SSD
    A Hyperx predator PCIE SSD in an adapter.
    It turned out the HyperX is around 50% faster than the regular SSD
    The Samsung is just about twice as fast as the hyperx, I have to retest it, can't find the file.

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/14 22:05:30 (permalink)
    Looking forward to results.

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/15 17:35:53 (permalink)
    This is the Samsung 950pro on my Asus x79 WS
     
    CrystalDiskMark 5.2.2 x64 (C) 2007-2017 hiyohiyo
                               Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
    * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

       Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :  1263.262 MB/s
      Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :   965.936 MB/s
      Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   331.883 MB/s [ 81026.1 IOPS]
     Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   148.707 MB/s [ 36305.4 IOPS]
             Sequential Read (T= 1) :  1384.083 MB/s
            Sequential Write (T= 1) :   964.031 MB/s
       Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :    31.944 MB/s [  7798.8 IOPS]
      Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :    93.844 MB/s [ 22911.1 IOPS]

      Test : 100 MiB [D: 0.1% (0.1/238.5 GiB)] (x5)  [Interval=5 sec]
      Date : 2017/10/15 20:29:58
        OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 15063] (x64)

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/15 17:51:20 (permalink)
    Just to show what a ram drive does.
    AMD ramdrive software 6gb drive on my Sabertooth x79
     
    CrystalDiskMark 5.2.2 x64 (C) 2007-2017 hiyohiyo
                               Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
    * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

       Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :  2675.693 MB/s
      Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :  2130.593 MB/s
      Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   156.490 MB/s [ 38205.6 IOPS]
     Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   129.540 MB/s [ 31626.0 IOPS]
             Sequential Read (T= 1) :  4498.131 MB/s
            Sequential Write (T= 1) :  4171.738 MB/s
       Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :   160.321 MB/s [ 39140.9 IOPS]
      Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :   131.412 MB/s [ 32083.0 IOPS]

      Test : 100 MiB [H: 32.3% (1939.2/5997.0 MiB)] (x1)  [Interval=5 sec]
      Date : 2017/10/15 20:42:44
        OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 15063] (x64)
     

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/16 04:31:52 (permalink)
    After building my new PC, I will risk doing this BIOS mod on my Rampage IV Gene.

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/16 09:51:06 (permalink)
    PietroBR
    After building my new PC, I will risk doing this BIOS mod on my Rampage IV Gene.


    Check out this thread, I believe he already modded a bunch of Asus BIOS that you can download
    I do believe he added the NVME info
    Have to use the flashback method
    https://rog.asus.com/foru...l-13-1-0-2126-Download

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/16 10:49:31 (permalink)
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    PietroBR
    After building my new PC, I will risk doing this BIOS mod on my Rampage IV Gene.


    Check out this thread, I believe he already modded a bunch of Asus BIOS that you can download
    I do believe he added the NVME info
    Have to use the flashback method
    https://rog.asus.com/foru...l-13-1-0-2126-Download



    Yup
    Saw that when was browsing the web on this specific subject. Already saved the link.
    Thanks Bill 

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/10/16 22:52:57 (permalink)
    Ran the beta 5.5 on my ssd.
     
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 5.5.0 Beta2 x64 (C) 2007-2017 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
    * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes
    Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 4114.640 MB/s
    Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 4085.514 MB/s
    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 2094.768 MB/s [511418.0 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 1374.526 MB/s [335577.6 IOPS]
    Sequential Read (T= 1) : 2594.043 MB/s
    Sequential Write (T= 1) : 4433.539 MB/s
    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 417.481 MB/s [101924.1 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 309.162 MB/s [ 75479.0 IOPS]
    Test : 1024 MiB [C: 58.5% (544.1/930.5 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
    Date : 2017/10/16 22:38:03
    OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 15063] (x64)

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    Re: x79 Dark NVMeBootable support 2017/11/01 14:08:45 (permalink)
    I just bought a Optane SSD 900P Series, Sounds like no luck in having it a bootable drive.  I really don't want to ditch the 3930K.

     
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