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Lack of quality WU's lately?

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2017/09/30 12:43:39 (permalink)
Has anyone else noticed lately that there have been a lot more 941x WU's than anything else?  It seems all my cards are getting is these things and it is so frustrating.  I've also had a few 983x WU's hit my 1080's and these WU are so horrible.  Scoring 600k ppd.  OMG haha.  I'm wondering if I have my system setup for maximum points or not.  I have my 1080ftw in a linux box and 1080Ti in my main windows box because I sometimes need to use it for encoding, and for that I need drivers newer than 372.09.  Should I swap that 2 around and forget about encoding and hope for the best in just maximizing points?
 
I just find it disheartening that these 941x units are within 1 second TPF of my 1080FTW and my 1080Ti, sometimes my 1080Ti is slower than my 1080FTW.  I feel Stanford could be doing a much better job at allocating the resources at hand.  When they hit my 1080Ti it barely breaks 70% usage.  Am I just looking for something to complain about here?

 

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    Re: Lack of quality WU's lately? 2017/09/30 13:06:55 (permalink)
    What is the difference between Projects when it come to mining for Coin while Folding?
    This for me has not changed 378.92 1080 Ti All Other Non-1080 Ti 373.06
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    Re: Lack of quality WU's lately? 2017/09/30 13:25:48 (permalink)
    We have to remember why we fold. Is it for the points or to find a cure.
    Every WU needs to be done and it could be "The One" that is the key to a cure.
    The Stanford is not a big as we think it is. As we can tell every time it goes down on a holiday weekend between semesters.
    It is mostly run by students, they write papers about the folding of proteins. Then the students move on to something else.
    They do not expect, or even want you to make a dedicated folding system just for them.
    Not my opinion, it is what they say. They want your extra unused computer cycles, all they ask for.
    Some think they do not care about the donors, yada yada yada.
    Partly true, but I think they are not as big and able to be on top of it as well as we think they should be.
    I think that because, well they aren't. It is a student run school project. School is not always in session.
    It is what it is and expectations are too high. Part maybe growing pangs.
     
    Fold what they give you and hope for the best.Relax and believe/hope what you're doing may someday save a life.
    Are CPU WUs really not worth it, what if that one WU was the key to a cure?
     
    Just remember Do not delete WUs   (Not saying you or anyone else is doing it) Just a FYI for all the new folders.
    http://folding.stanford.e...licies/best-practices/
    Don't ban the IP address of server to get work or better WUs.
    Don't trick the servers into thinking your system is not what it really is. IE: "32 cores when it is really only 24"
    That is considered cheating and Stanford will reset you points to zero.
    They can tell if you only get xxxx WUs and never get  ZZZZ WUs because server ZZZZZ can never connect....
    If that is a team wide practice they will reset the teams points to zero.
    There was a huge issue a bout 8 or 9 years ago and it was not pretty.
     

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    Re: Lack of quality WU's lately? 2017/09/30 13:38:01 (permalink)
    There is no difference between folding for coin and folding for folding.  It's just I feel that my 1080Ti can be put to much better use.  It's the same thing I noticed with CPU work units.  Stanford seriously dropped the ball on it and only even numbers work I believe for cores.  It's not that difficult for Stanford to send out the WU to the correct machines.  They do know what each person has as they query the machines before each WU.  It seems they are just doing the shotgun approach and sending out WU to everyone and hoping for the best.
     
    As for them not taking the project seriously.  I think we know that is the case.  Stanford hasn't taken folding at home seriously for quite some time.  They take us, the folders, for granted, and at times they talk down to us when we ask them for help or tell them that there are problems.  I just feel lately, there has been a serious problem with getting the correct WU's to the correct cards.  I feel there is no reason my 1080Ti should be getting a WU that my 1080 will do faster.  It's not like someone doesn't have a farm of 80+ 1080's that they can concentrate them out to ;).  

     

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    Re: Lack of quality WU's lately? 2017/09/30 13:39:53 (permalink)
    For me Only the Cure and Dido on the Do Not Delete WU's
    Same for BOINC Projects, but you can abort Tasks (WU) and they are give back out UNLIKE Folding WU.
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    Re: Lack of quality WU's lately? 2017/09/30 13:54:11 (permalink)
    The thing is if they give you the best WU for your card to get the most points, then it would not be random.
    It is random for a reason, it is to promote competition and luck of the draw.
    Folding was not set up to be the backbone of a money making adventure.
    It was about teams and friendly competition.
    You get what you get and fold it like everyone else. That is how its always been.
    They will not make the program work differently for every model of GPU.
    Heck, they have a hard enough time keeping it working as it is.
    It is students mostly running this projects and a IT department that I am sure has other work to do.
    It is not what people are thinking it is.
     

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    Re: Lack of quality WU's lately? 2017/09/30 13:59:01 (permalink)
    Also is not just you, everyone else is in the same boat and their points go up and down too.
    WUs are being done, papers are being written and life goes on.
    We are over thinking this, have to take it for what it is.
    And remember, Stanford does not want you to have 80 GPUs for folding. Not what this project was intended for.
     
     
     

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    Re: Lack of quality WU's lately? 2017/09/30 14:06:22 (permalink)
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    It's not like someone doesn't have a farm of 80+ 1080's that they can concentrate them out to ;).  


    Maybe vorksholk_ALL_1HsMGTTTWQQiSHyb7wFv4KALgACKofMqiU is getting all the GOOD WU
    One time no one could getting WUs because they were only given to their Corporate Sponsors.
    Then this was back in the BigAdv Day
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    Re: Lack of quality WU's lately? 2017/09/30 15:55:19 (permalink)
    At least I am still seeing 1007765.9 (20.093 WUs) on P9414 and running strong.
    I should Really be able to Increase my WU Count this week, current 21,903.
    Maybe even see 22,000 this month upcoming that is.

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    Re: Lack of quality WU's lately? 2017/10/01 06:53:00 (permalink)
    I've also been getting lower point WU's but as bill said it's the luck of the draw, you get what you get and you don't get upset. I think what Ranmacanada is trying to get at is just having the system work at optimal efficiency so the more powerful cards can get the harder WU's. I agree with that but I never thought of it like what bill mentioned that it isn't the intention for people to have dedicated folding rigs, just idle processing time. Also that puts a bias on it when it comes to something like curecoin and theres no luck of the draw so anyone with a lower end cpu/gpu would have no real want to do it I would imagine. But the whole reason for folding is to help find a cure or part of one and that's all that matters.


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