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The NVidia Control Panel shows HDCP connect and ready
When I launch A 4K disk in CyberLink; the software responds that "SGX is either not available on this platform or not enabled in BIOS"
I cannot find a setting in BIOS
Not sure if the Intel SGX is an application lead on a AMD CPU
Please give advice or opinions
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/13 11:44:57
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☄ Helpfulby miklet 2017/09/13 11:59:29
miklet
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ASUS Blu-Ray Burner SATA BW-16D1HT
LG 32UD59-B 32" 4K UHD LED Monitor, 3840 x 2160
CyberLink PowerDVD 17 Ultra
The NVidia Control Panel shows HDCP connect and ready
When I launch A 4K disk in CyberLink; the software responds that "SGX is either not available on this platform or not enabled in BIOS"
I cannot find a setting in BIOS
Not sure if the Intel SGX is an application lead on a AMD CPU
Please give advice or opinions
Your current drive will not play UHD disks. https://www.amazon.com/BDR-S11J-BK-Pioneer-Blu-ray-Burner-internal/dp/B01N17W4MI would with the right processor.
post edited by HeavyHemi - 2017/09/13 11:49:58
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/13 12:07:49
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Moving thread to general hardware sub-section.
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/13 16:34:32
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the drive would work but not with a AMD, you need a Kabylake cpu or better. even 4k streaming netflix is restricted to intel and igpu.
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/13 17:21:38
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IMHO get an external/standalone UHD bluray player or wait a year for the PC side to shake out, UHD playback is a total mess on PC right now.
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/13 22:30:20
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IMHO get an external/standalone UHD bluray player or wait a year for the PC side to shake out, UHD playback is a total mess on PC right now.
yes it it. i have netflix 4k and never once watched it on my pc, i use my 4k 65" roku tv for that and it surely doesnt have those crazy requirement to stream 4k
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/13 23:52:26
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Going back to the topic it's that the 4k discs are different in the way they are read. It's like trying to read a Blu-Ray on a HD-DVD drive. Even though they share the "Blu-ray" name it's different. The good news though is 4k Blu-ray drives are out for the computer and with one you should be ok. Also the 4K drive should play everything.
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/14 11:01:45
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The good news though is 4k Blu-ray drives are out for the computer and with one you should be ok.
It's not nearly that simple, as explained above. You need AACS 2.0 support in all of your components and software that supports said hardware. There are I think only 3 motherboards that can currently do it, Gigabyte GA-Z270X-Gaming 8 and 9 and ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming, paired with a Kaby Lake CPU and Windows 10. Those are the only PC systems that can currently do UHD BluRay playback. OP does not have any of those components.
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/14 17:46:45
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somethingc00lThank you and other forum commenters. If the data sheets are correctSystem has HDCP 2.2 on EVGA GeForce 1050 SSC 2G / LG 32UD59-B 32" 4K UHD LED Monitor, 3840 x 2160 / CyberLink PowerDVD 17 Ultra software.
The AMD Ryzen 5 1600 and MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon v1 with latest BIOS 7A32 V18.0 are not supposed to be a factor (no integrated graphics), BUT, I am suspicious of the fiber optic output on the MSI board. Could that possibly be a "handshake" disruptor?
I would value more input on two things.1) ASUS Blu-Ray Burner SATA BW-16D1HT likely needs replacement2) After recent readings, I now ponder if the Vizio SS2520-C6 via fiber-optic is likely disturbing the "handshake" for HDCP 2.2 I would like to manage the money I throw at this.Seeking cost options for an internal Sata OOD UHD and HDCP 2.2, $100US would be a reasonable riskAlso, I need more education on the option around a high-res audio soundbar, digital output, subwoofer output and (drumroll) HDCP 2.2 "handshake" friendly. Is it possible that it is a double fault, both soundbar and mobo fail the "handshake". It's all part of the fun when you want to be on the bleeding edge of change. I appreciate any forum inputs or links to more knowledge.Best to all
post edited by miklet - 2017/09/14 17:49:34
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/14 18:04:17
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/14 18:09:36
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EVGA GeForce 1050 SSC 2G
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MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon v1 with latest BIOS 7A32 V18.0
ASUS Blu-Ray Burner SATA BW-16D1HT
LG 32UD59-B 32" 4K UHD LED Monitor, 3840 x 2160
CyberLink PowerDVD 17 Ultra
The NVidia Control Panel shows HDCP connect and ready
When I launch A 4K disk in CyberLink; the software responds that "SGX is either not available on this platform or not enabled in BIOS"
I cannot find a setting in BIOS
Not sure if the Intel SGX is an application lead on a AMD CPU
Please give advice or opinions
Your current drive will not play UHD disks. https://www.amazon.com/BDR-S11J-BK-Pioneer-Blu-ray-Burner-internal/dp/B01N17W4MI would with the right processor.
Thank you, looked at it and gained more insights, for that I am grateful. This unit is a bit more cost than I would like to allocate to the OOD. I can now shop with the background you have given. Is it possible there are UHD internal player only devices? I just bought this burner and it works well. Is it possible to direct the money at a stronger player without burner capability?
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/14 19:02:54
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☼ Best Answerby miklet 2017/09/15 20:34:04
Pioneer has a drive for $120: https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-BDR-211UBK-Internal-Supporting-Playback/dp/B071DQFK9B The long and the short of it is that all of your components besides the drive (GPU, Monitor, CPU) have the capability to playback UHD, it's a software problem right now. AFAIK PowerDVD 17 is the only UHD capable software out right now, and it requires Intel SGX, Intel GPU, and HDMI 2.0a output which only those 3 motherboards I listed earlier have. I was not kidding when I said only those 3 specific motherboards can do PC Bluray UHD playback right now. AMD Ryzen has an instruction set very similar to SGX, but doesn't really matter as it has no on board GPU. Nvidia and AMD are certainly working on getting their GPUs certified for UHD playback but no one knows if/when that will actually happen. So without getting an entirely new system you won't be able to play UHD discs, unless future software comes out that supports Nvidia and AMD GPU playback. Netflix 4k support does not mean Bluray UHD support. That is why I said wait or get a stand alone UHD player, because right now you simply can't playback on your PC.
post edited by somethingc00l - 2017/09/14 19:05:30
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/15 20:38:33
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somethingc00l, Thank you for the information and experience. My plans for 4K movie watching in my computer room are on hold for the foreseeable future. No point trying the $120 test with my mobo and CPU. I appreciate your posts very much! Best Regards
post edited by miklet - 2017/09/16 07:13:24
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Re: Should my system be able to play 4K BluRay disks?
2017/09/20 09:38:33
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Xbox One S can play 4k (UHD BD) and if you delete the stock Netflix app and download the 4k version it will stream Netflix in 4K ( and you will need to upgrade your netflix account too I think).
not bad for 240 bucks on AMAZON. Also with xbox one X coming out in a month the xbox one s should become even cheaper.
Ohh it also plays games too I guess, Oppo's UHD player can't play a game and its wayyyyyyy more money.
All powered by AMD hardware.
Sajin is correct, I think I also heard about that on the WAN show with Linus on Youtube.
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