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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2017/09/10 22:27:16 (permalink)
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I have used Artic Silver 5 for years. Stuff has been around for over a decade and still being recommended so I have a lot of trust in it.

It was great too because radioshack stocked it, so in a pinch you could go to store and pick it up.



Just get it at Fry's.

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2017/09/17 18:25:41 (permalink)
Just refreshed my TIM. Went from Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut after 6 months of use (52c range during single card use, 55c during dual card) and refreshed with artic mx-4, single card is at 36c and dual I have not tested yet.

I used MX4 for a couple of years, and never had bad results. After 6 months with the Kryonaut, I am saddened to say that I won't use it again. I will try Hydronaut later.
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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2017/09/18 14:25:52 (permalink)
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I have used Artic Silver 5 for years. Stuff has been around for over a decade and still being recommended so I have a lot of trust in it.

It was great too because radioshack stocked it, so in a pinch you could go to store and pick it up.



Just get it at Fry's.


I've always used Artic Silver 5 as well, never had an issue or reason to try anything else. I also get it from Fry's.
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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2017/09/18 14:29:30 (permalink)
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Just refreshed my TIM. Went from Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut after 6 months of use (52c range during single card use, 55c during dual card) and refreshed with artic mx-4, single card is at 36c and dual I have not tested yet.

I used MX4 for a couple of years, and never had bad results. After 6 months with the Kryonaut, I am saddened to say that I won't use it again. I will try Hydronaut later.

I would say that was a huge difference and guess I'll never try Kryonaut.
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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2017/09/18 15:20:31 (permalink)
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I would say that was a huge difference and guess I'll never try Kryonaut.




Never hurts to try it, especially if you find it for a good price.  But, I would monitor the temps closely if I got it again.
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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2017/10/03 05:33:31 (permalink)
Back in 2009-2010 when I was on the forums regularly there was a thread linked that had an amazing bunch of tests on TIM.
 
The leader beat the second best by around 5C if I recall. I know I bought that specific TIM and used it on my Sandy Bridge build, worked excellent. It came in a legitimate syringe and not the little mini ones we see with mx-4. No idea what brand or what it was called, was NOT cheap stuff.
 
Anyhow I learned my application technique matters as much as the TIM itself. With MX-4 I shove the tube/syringe under my armpit while doing my final touches just to warm it up a hair. For other compounds I drop it in boiling water and get it real hot before applying. Pea sized drop in the middle and bam.
 
Only times I'm having trouble applying are because the H75 cooler setup is garbage and you can't start the thumbscrews without squishing the TIM down, and then you start sliding around and make a big mess...but I digress.
 
 
Moral of the story, application is everything and I can't remember the name of the best TIM from 8 years ago.

 

 

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2017/10/03 09:02:30 (permalink)
The only TIM that provided the differential you describe is Coollabratory Liquid Metal Pro released back in 2009. If you had used it you wouldn't forget it. They have improved their product and offer Liquid Ultra now. The top (Standard) TIM's of the time were Shin-Etsu MicroSi G751, Arctic Silver 5 Poly-synthetic Thermal Compound, Thermaltake Grease A2150, Gelid GC-Extreme and Tuniq TX-3 non which separated themselves from the worst available by +6c as evidenced here. Most available TIM's of today have similar performance and in reality you'll be well served by any available from the top manufacturers/performers of back then.
Liquid metal is still the absolute best but, it's conductive so there are limitations where it's unadvised to use especially for the novice. Most who use it today use it when delidding Intel CPUs to reattach the IHS which is the next best thing to a soldiered IHS.
There are many recommendation listed here in previous post and all are fine choices that will vary more in temps due to improper installation or defect in cooler implemented than anything else.

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2017/10/03 09:17:00 (permalink)
I like MX-4
 
You can place the heatsink and TIM (on or surround it), with a heating pad - 100 F is good enough to help if the TIM you use is thick at room temp 
 
MX-4 spreads just fine @ room temp
 

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2017/10/03 14:39:46 (permalink)
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The only TIM that provided the differential you describe is Coollabratory Liquid Metal Pro released back in 2009. If you had used it you wouldn't forget it. They have improved their product and offer Liquid Ultra now. The top (Standard) TIM's of the time were Shin-Etsu MicroSi G751, Arctic Silver 5 Poly-synthetic Thermal Compound, Thermaltake Grease A2150, Gelid GC-Extreme and Tuniq TX-3 non which separated themselves from the worst available by +6c as evidenced here. Most available TIM's of today have similar performance and in reality you'll be well served by any available from the top manufacturers/performers of back then.
Liquid metal is still the absolute best but, it's conductive so there are limitations where it's unadvised to use especially for the novice. Most who use it today use it when delidding Intel CPUs to reattach the IHS which is the next best thing to a soldiered IHS.
There are many recommendation listed here in previous post and all are fine choices that will vary more in temps due to improper installation or defect in cooler implemented than anything else.




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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/02/27 00:47:11 (permalink)
Guys I apply K5 PRO on my laptop for 3 years and I have no problem at all.If you want to check this option you can give a search on youtube a video named ''K5 PRO THERMAL PASTE FOR USE INSTEAD OF THERMAL PADS''
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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/04 07:22:29 (permalink)
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I like MX-4
 
You can place the heatsink and TIM (on or surround it), with a heating pad - 100 F is good enough to help if the TIM you use is thick at room temp 
 
MX-4 spreads just fine @ room temp
 




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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/04 10:01:19 (permalink)
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I like MX-4
 
You can place the heatsink and TIM (on or surround it), with a heating pad - 100 F is good enough to help if the TIM you use is thick at room temp 
 
MX-4 spreads just fine @ room temp
 




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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/04 10:23:23 (permalink)
MX-4.  Bought a tube in 2012 and still use it for all my stuff.  CPU GPU waterblocks.   Not worries and my temps look just fine. 

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/04 20:06:23 (permalink)
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MX-4.  Bought a tube in 2012 and still use it for all my stuff.  CPU GPU waterblocks.   Not worries and my temps look just fine. 




Just to be clear I am saying this is a teasing way -
 
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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/04 20:18:43 (permalink)
tell me what I need to do?  remove my CPU block and try something new?  That rhymes.  

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/04 20:28:26 (permalink)
I would suggest that if you find yourself having to have the system drained why not switch it up and try the Kryonaut, unless there is an application error you should see an improvement.
Or if at that time thy actually have that Carbonaut cloth stuff on the market give that a try
To me if you have taken the time to build a full custom loop, why settle for something that "works OK" instead of getting the most out of your cooling solution. If you dropped your temps 10c you could step that CPU or GPU OC up a notch


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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/04 20:36:33 (permalink)
I will have some on wednesday
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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/04 20:37:52 (permalink)
I changed over from MX-4 to TF8 on the GPUs. (Warm it up before Use)
TF8 Thermal Compound Paste 13.8 W/mK, Carbon Based High Performance, Heatsink Paste, CPU for All Coolers, Interface Material, 2 Grams with Tool
For my CPU's Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Thermal Grease Paste LM - 5.0 Gram  Or TF8 now.
 
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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/04 20:55:07 (permalink)
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I changed over from MX-4 to TF8 on the GPUs. (Warm it up before Use)
TF8 Thermal Compound Paste 13.8 W/mK, Carbon Based High Performance, Heatsink Paste, CPU for All Coolers, Interface Material, 2 Grams with Tool
For my CPU's Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Thermal Grease Paste - 5.0 Gram  Or TF8 now.
 




Hrm,, had not seen that TF8, added to my list of thermal numbers
They kinda leave out / fail to mention in that link that the Conductonaut is an LM, you don't see that until you get too the comments there
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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/04 21:57:12 (permalink)
One thing I was finding as I just put a CLC-280 on was the difference was not really that much between many brands. I was seeing what was the best that I could get for a reasonable price but really the reviews showed so little difference I just picked up some local stuff to use that wasn't rated the best but the local computer store had it in stock. In the end I decided I was ok with my temps being 0.4F higher then the top rated. Fact is though the CPU is now being cooled by the CLC-280 and is running very cool.
 
Right now it seems like the biggest difference of course is that some brands are using metal. I would recommend avoiding that. In my case though I was ok picking up a tube because it was local and not paying shipping or waiting for delivery was worth the time saving to me. 

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/06 15:06:17 (permalink)
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I would suggest that if you find yourself having to have the system drained why not switch it up and try the Kryonaut, unless there is an application error you should see an improvement.
Or if at that time thy actually have that Carbonaut cloth stuff on the market give that a try
To me if you have taken the time to build a full custom loop, why settle for something that "works OK" instead of getting the most out of your cooling solution. If you dropped your temps 10c you could step that CPU or GPU OC up a notch


test results.     I allowed my 2x 4 radiator loop to get up to ambient temperature for 30 minutes.    Then took readings for MX4 and then did an intel stress test for 10 minutes.  Did the same for Kryonaut
 
MX4
Idle 29C
Load  Range was 49-60C at 5.1 Ghz
 
Kryonaut
Idle  30C
Load 52-65C @5.1 Ghz
 
So I gained 3-5C in temp with the kryonaut.    I'd say that Kryonaut "works ok"
 
Just going to leave Kryonaut and not jack with it anymore.   There goes 10 bucks. 
 
It says no cure time.  I had my MX4 in place since the release of the board.  I'll see in a week or so what the Kryonaut reads. 

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/06 15:31:41 (permalink)
I tried the TF8, seems to work well. Was enough in the tube to do 2 CPUs and still some in there.
 
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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/06 16:38:02 (permalink)
https://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/dominic-moass/thermal-paste-head-to-head-does-it-matter-which-brand-you-use/2/
 
https://www.eteknix.com/thermal-grizzly-thermal-paste-vs-6-major-brands-review/3/
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk9eouWVMPE
 
Kryonaut vs MX-4   legitimate review?  IDK.  but the two are pretty close.  1-2 C differences 
 
I did read where kryonaut got better after 48 hours. So I'll check back. 

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/06 17:05:01 (permalink)
I like MX-4
 
I'm not chasing world records ... so 2 C is not much

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/06 21:56:52 (permalink)
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I would suggest that if you find yourself having to have the system drained why not switch it up and try the Kryonaut, unless there is an application error you should see an improvement.
Or if at that time thy actually have that Carbonaut cloth stuff on the market give that a try
To me if you have taken the time to build a full custom loop, why settle for something that "works OK" instead of getting the most out of your cooling solution. If you dropped your temps 10c you could step that CPU or GPU OC up a notch


test results.     I allowed my 2x 4 radiator loop to get up to ambient temperature for 30 minutes.    Then took readings for MX4 and then did an intel stress test for 10 minutes.  Did the same for Kryonaut
 
MX4
Idle 29C
Load  Range was 49-60C at 5.1 Ghz
 
Kryonaut
Idle  30C
Load 52-65C @5.1 Ghz
 
So I gained 3-5C in temp with the kryonaut.    I'd say that Kryonaut "works ok"
 
Just going to leave Kryonaut and not jack with it anymore.   There goes 10 bucks. 
 
It says no cure time.  I had my MX4 in place since the release of the board.  I'll see in a week or so what the Kryonaut reads. 




Outside of possible cure time (?) it makes no sense given the published numbers that you would have worse numbers. Not saying anything about your application ability but that is the only thing that is a slight uncontrolled variable from one to the other. By the W/mk numbers (providing someone is not fudging them) it should have been better


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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/06 22:41:50 (permalink)
One thing to consider is, you can have the best TIM in the world, the rest of the cooling solution has to be able to take advantage of it.
 
I still have a big 20gm tube of MX4 (half gone)and one of MX2 and I will still use them,
I found the MX2 was a bit watery, so I pulled the plunger back and let air in the tube, that did help thicken it up.
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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/07 09:09:25 (permalink)
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I would suggest that if you find yourself having to have the system drained why not switch it up and try the Kryonaut, unless there is an application error you should see an improvement.
Or if at that time thy actually have that Carbonaut cloth stuff on the market give that a try
To me if you have taken the time to build a full custom loop, why settle for something that "works OK" instead of getting the most out of your cooling solution. If you dropped your temps 10c you could step that CPU or GPU OC up a notch


test results.     I allowed my 2x 4 radiator loop to get up to ambient temperature for 30 minutes.    Then took readings for MX4 and then did an intel stress test for 10 minutes.  Did the same for Kryonaut
 
MX4
Idle 29C
Load  Range was 49-60C at 5.1 Ghz
 
Kryonaut
Idle  30C
Load 52-65C @5.1 Ghz
 
So I gained 3-5C in temp with the kryonaut.    I'd say that Kryonaut "works ok"
 
Just going to leave Kryonaut and not jack with it anymore.   There goes 10 bucks. 
 
It says no cure time.  I had my MX4 in place since the release of the board.  I'll see in a week or so what the Kryonaut reads. 




Outside of possible cure time (?) it makes no sense given the published numbers that you would have worse numbers. Not saying anything about your application ability but that is the only thing that is a slight uncontrolled variable from one to the other. By the W/mk numbers (providing someone is not fudging them) it should have been better


Application of the Mx4 was one pea sized dot in the middle.   The kryonaut was full spread with the included applicator.   I look at each core to see if all were about the same and they were, meaning I guess I got an even distribution. 

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/07 22:13:21 (permalink)
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I would suggest that if you find yourself having to have the system drained why not switch it up and try the Kryonaut, unless there is an application error you should see an improvement.
Or if at that time thy actually have that Carbonaut cloth stuff on the market give that a try
To me if you have taken the time to build a full custom loop, why settle for something that "works OK" instead of getting the most out of your cooling solution. If you dropped your temps 10c you could step that CPU or GPU OC up a notch


test results.     I allowed my 2x 4 radiator loop to get up to ambient temperature for 30 minutes.    Then took readings for MX4 and then did an intel stress test for 10 minutes.  Did the same for Kryonaut
 
MX4
Idle 29C
Load  Range was 49-60C at 5.1 Ghz
 
Kryonaut
Idle  30C
Load 52-65C @5.1 Ghz
 
So I gained 3-5C in temp with the kryonaut.    I'd say that Kryonaut "works ok"
 
Just going to leave Kryonaut and not jack with it anymore.   There goes 10 bucks. 
 
It says no cure time.  I had my MX4 in place since the release of the board.  I'll see in a week or so what the Kryonaut reads. 




Outside of possible cure time (?) it makes no sense given the published numbers that you would have worse numbers. Not saying anything about your application ability but that is the only thing that is a slight uncontrolled variable from one to the other. By the W/mk numbers (providing someone is not fudging them) it should have been better


Application of the Mx4 was one pea sized dot in the middle.   The kryonaut was full spread with the included applicator.   I look at each core to see if all were about the same and they were, meaning I guess I got an even distribution. 




Well poop, I've got nothing for you then. As I said it makes no sense that it set you back a small step
 
I went back and looked over all my notes from early on on my build. I have a ton of notes on the GPU but nothing really on the CPU.
I went from TG Kryonaut to Conductonaut LM on the CPU but didn't write down any before / after numbers


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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/07 22:36:55 (permalink)
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I like MX-4
 
I'm not chasing world records ... so 2 C is not much


That is how I saw it. On the graph on the first page for example the difference between the middle and the high end is just a few degrees. It looks huge but even the worst is like 7C warmer then the best. That I will say is a lot but the difference between most really is t enough to worry about.

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Re: best thermal paste, what's the latest and greatest to use? 2019/03/13 07:05:55 (permalink)
I recently used some Noctua NT-H1 thermal compound on a old dell that needed a new mobo, good stuff in my opinion as it is so easy to clean compared to some compounds I have seen and or encountered.
I know there is better but I like the stuff, no muss no fuss


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