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Intel Officially Reveals What's Coming After Coffee Lake: The 10 nm Ice Lake

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2017/08/15 23:37:25 (permalink)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11722/intel-reveals-ice-lake-core-architecture-10nm-plus
 
It's rare for Intel to talk about an unreleased CPU so early but I'm guessing AMD has scared them a little so Intel is making as much marketing hype as possible. 

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    Re: Intel Officially Reveals What's Coming After Coffee Lake: The 10 nm Ice Lake 2017/08/15 23:43:53 (permalink)
    10nm would offer a lot of improvements both for gaming CPU as well as ultra thin laptops and micro computers.  I am really interested in finding out where it takes us.

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    Re: Intel Officially Reveals What's Coming After Coffee Lake: The 10 nm Ice Lake 2017/08/16 06:42:52 (permalink)
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    http://www.anandtech.com/show/11722/intel-reveals-ice-lake-core-architecture-10nm-plus
     
    It's rare for Intel to talk about an unreleased CPU so early but I'm guessing AMD has scared them a little so Intel is making as much marketing hype as possible. 




    Nice piece.  Only problem I have is that with the pressure AMD has now put on Intel...will we see more and more rushed platforms? 

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    Re: Intel Officially Reveals What's Coming After Coffee Lake: The 10 nm Ice Lake 2017/08/16 06:51:32 (permalink)
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    http://www.anandtech.com/show/11722/intel-reveals-ice-lake-core-architecture-10nm-plus
     
    It's rare for Intel to talk about an unreleased CPU so early but I'm guessing AMD has scared them a little so Intel is making as much marketing hype as possible. 




    Nice piece.  Only problem I have is that with the pressure AMD has now put on Intel...will we see more and more rushed platforms? 


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    Re: Intel Officially Reveals What's Coming After Coffee Lake: The 10 nm Ice Lake 2017/08/16 08:47:57 (permalink)
    they had problems with coffee lake on 10nm - not enough time to revamp litho - so they went with 14nm
    ice lake since it's later had the time to revamp lithos and design to work with 10nm
     
    10nm was delayed sooo long - because of problems and coffee lake failed on 10nm(bad lithos, bad power regulation needed new design) and why it's on 14 nm now
     
     
    when you shrink you have to redesign the chip - the transistors and the power delivery system - your running lower voltages - and closer and closer to cutoff voltages
    it's essential to have good power regulation - to keep power smooth and consistent - power spikes are more critical to leakage and failure - because of the close nature of the parts and power dips will cause losses/hangs as well
     
    for the most part i think intel had it's pants down - not really looking at a full redesign of the chip and why it's been delayed -to fix up the completed design of the chip
     

    Coffee Lake is going to impact Intel’s margins

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    as a note Nvidia went thru this with fermi and why they built a chip design simulators(for each generation) after that
    and why Nvidia has been revamping power delivery system with each generation along with the complete redesign of the chip
     
    something AMD should learn to do  ...a GPU that east 500 watts??? when overclocked
     
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    Re: Intel Officially Reveals What's Coming After Coffee Lake: The 10 nm Ice Lake 2017/08/16 18:11:16 (permalink)
    It's another "-lake", being physically smaller only means raising frequency and/or core count, the IPC isn't changing much. Skylake was the original 'tick' followed by Cannonlake as the original 'tock', all these other lakes are refreshes so Intel doesn't get hit by FTC for taking their time with lithography progress (abusing their dominance).

    Don't you guys remember how Ivy Bridge and Broadwell as shrinks of their originals? There is no reason to go nuts over 10nm until these lakes go away. First opportunity for something new will be 4-5 years after AMD first revealed "Zen" in May 2015.

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    Re: Intel Officially Reveals What's Coming After Coffee Lake: The 10 nm Ice Lake 2017/08/16 18:53:15 (permalink)
    The answer to the title of this thread is cannonlake.

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    Re: Intel Officially Reveals What's Coming After Coffee Lake: The 10 nm Ice Lake 2017/09/09 18:06:02 (permalink)
     
    From hot coffee to ice cold lake. That's what my coffee tastes like if I wait to long to drink it. These names are funny.    ;)

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