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2017/08/02 17:04:38 (permalink)
Just installed the Sc hybrid kit to my SC2, after rebooting the pc a few times i still have yet to see the power and memory temp and my Sensor button is missing from precision xoc? Also dose the Mosfet fan spin or is it idle until it sees load or temp needed to spin up? Thanks. 
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/02 17:17:50 (permalink)
    Update, deleted Precision xoc, shut down, restarted, reinstalled latest version still no sensor button or power/memory temp reading. 
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/02 17:40:56 (permalink)
    Does the computer see the card at all. Is Precision X seeing it?  As in the BIOS?  Is this the only card in there? Moved to different PCIe and still not working, tried other power pins on the card?
     
    Only ask as I attempted this conversion last week and my computer never recognize the card.

    Rig 1
    Windows 7
    Asus X99-E ws
    Intel i7-5960x 8-core
    RipJaw DDR4 32 GB (8x4) 3000
    4-EVGA 1080Ti SC2 hybrids 
    EVGA 1600 Watt PSU
     
    Rig 2
    Windows 7
    Intel i7 6950X
    Asus X99e-ws/usb 3.1
    G Skill DDR4 3200 32 GB
    4-EVGA 1080 Ti FTW Hybrids
    EVGA 1600 Watt PSU
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/02 17:45:16 (permalink)
    VRM fan is connected to a PWM header and should be controllable with Precision XOC. If you are in GPU-Z what BIOS version does that card show? Are you still about to run the card under load and does it still operate normally outside of the issues in Precision XOC?

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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/02 17:47:21 (permalink)
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    Does the computer see the card at all. Is Precision X seeing it?  As in the BIOS?  Is this the only card in there? Moved to different PCIe and still not working, tried other power pins on the card?
     
    Only ask as I attempted this conversion last week and my computer never recognize the card.


    card works fine, boost to 1900+mhz. Precision X sees the card. I just dont have the power or memory temp nor a led on the side( dont matter much in a Define R5 no window.) I had the issue before of the power and memory temps and was fixed via uninstalling Precision x rebooting the re installing but that has yet to fix the issue. Im using two separate pcie cables from my psu (jaystwocents done a video gave the card he was testing slightly better stability)  like i was before the swap to hybrid. 
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/02 17:50:03 (permalink)
    Gpuz shows bios version 86.02.39.00.90, card works fine. It hit me that the Mosfet fan would spin up when it had enough temperature. 
     
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/02 23:11:11 (permalink)
    This should get the power and temp to show up in xoc...
     
    #1 Make sure you have the latest version of xoc installed.
    #2 Shutdown pc.
    #3 Unplug pc from wall.
    #4 Press/hold power on switch on tower for 30 seconds.
    #5 Replug pc into wall.
    #6 Start computer normally.
    #7 Open xoc.
     
    Should be good now.
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/02 23:16:30 (permalink)
    One more thing to add to Sajin's steps:
    #3.5 Unplug any display cables.
    #5.5 Plug them back in.
     
    Too many people have been reporting displays back-feeding power into the video card.  IMO it's worth unplugging the cable.
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 05:03:14 (permalink)
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    This should get the power and temp to show up in xoc...
     
    #1 Make sure you have the latest version of xoc installed.
    #2 Shutdown pc.
    #3 Unplug pc from wall.
    #4 Press/hold power on switch on tower for 30 seconds.
    #5 Replug pc into wall.
    #6 Start computer normally.
    #7 Open xoc.
     
    Should be good now.


    Done that just before turning it on today, still not showing power or memory temp nor the sensor button. Also done the monitor dvi connector as Quad5ny said. I know the SC2 cards have the asynchronous fans, i ran the pump cable with the spliter to the Memory fan plug on the pcb, i know its pluged in due to sub 30C gpu temps and i can see the Mosfet fan spin when i power up my pc. 
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 06:43:55 (permalink)
    I took the card apart to check everything. Pump block and copper plate is one properly, the pump with the spliter is plugged into the 4 pin connector on the pcie power plug side per the manual. As far as the led lighting up dose not matter much to me as my case has not window nor planning on swapping to one anytime soon but i have the 6 pin connector hooked up. In Precision xoc the led tabs are grayed out, the power and memory temp on the ui will blink in game like it wants to work. I may try to download a 1 or 2 revision old Precision xoc and see if that helps. I loaded up bf1 and let it play for a few minutes and the Mosfet fan did come on as it should though unknown temperature. 
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 09:45:33 (permalink)
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    Sajin
    This should get the power and temp to show up in xoc...
     
    #1 Make sure you have the latest version of xoc installed.
    #2 Shutdown pc.
    #3 Unplug pc from wall.
    #4 Press/hold power on switch on tower for 30 seconds.
    #5 Replug pc into wall.
    #6 Start computer normally.
    #7 Open xoc.
     
    Should be good now.


    Done that just before turning it on today, still not showing power or memory temp nor the sensor button. Also done the monitor dvi connector as Quad5ny said. I know the SC2 cards have the asynchronous fans, i ran the pump cable with the spliter to the Memory fan plug on the pcb, i know its pluged in due to sub 30C gpu temps and i can see the Mosfet fan spin when i power up my pc. 


    Hmm. Give this a try...
     
    #1 Uninstall precision xoc.
    #2 Delete evga folder inside c:\program files (x86)
    #3 Shutdown pc.
    #4 Unplug pc from wall.
    #5 Hold case power on button for 30 seconds.
    #6 Plug pc back into wall.
    #7 Turn on system, install latest version precision xoc, reboot pc.
    #8 Open xoc.
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 10:02:50 (permalink)
     


    Hmm. Give this a try...
     
    #1 Uninstall precision xoc.
    #2 Delete evga folder inside c:\program files (x86)
    #3 Shutdown pc.
    #4 Unplug pc from wall.
    #5 Hold case power on button for 30 seconds.
    #6 Plug pc back into wall.
    #7 Turn on system, install latest version precision xoc, reboot pc.
    #8 Open xoc.


    Rebooted twice, deleted all file from Precision on my hard drive. Still only showing dashes for power and memory temp. Also no colored square beside the gpu temp. 
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 10:08:16 (permalink)
    Older versions give you the same issue?
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 10:10:16 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Older versions give you the same issue?


    Im going to try the same thing with a older version of Pxoc. 
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 10:28:04 (permalink)
    running Pxoc 6.1.8 still blank power temp and memory temp. 
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 11:29:48 (permalink)
    deleted all nvidia drivers, and Pxoc. Rebooted installed new drivers, rebooted then installed latest version of Pxoc still no power temp or memory temp. Hoping this is fixed with future updates. 
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 11:31:04 (permalink)
    Sorry to hear it still isn't working for you.
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 11:34:46 (permalink)
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    Sorry to hear it still isn't working for you.


    Yeah, I was worried you had to plug the pump into the gpu fan or something, went back and read the instructions it shows plugging into the rear fan. Also watched GamersNexus tear down also noting the plug location. Only other think that is weird is the led light not coming on. I plugged the 6 pin in vs the 2pin per the instructions. Now im just going to wait for a update on Pxoc and see if that fixes it, or if i need to flash over to a Hybrid Bios even though its not mentioned anywhere.
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 11:39:18 (permalink)
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    In Precision xoc the led tabs are grayed out

    Reseating the video card/moving it to a different pci-e slot has been known to fix that issue.
     
    post edited by Sajin - 2017/08/03 11:44:28
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 12:25:47 (permalink)
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    In Precision xoc the led tabs are grayed out

    Reseating the video card/moving it to a different pci-e slot has been known to fix that issue.
     


    Just tried reseating the card still grayed out and no pwr or memory temp. I only have one pcie x16 slot on my motherboard to check it with. When i had the stock air cooler on it i had it set to the changing color scheme as it didnt matter what color since i couldnt see it in my case. 
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/03 12:40:30 (permalink)
    Its almost like its acting like a Founders card vs a Icx card. The way the fan went from all the sensors to none like it went to a founders bios or something. Its boosting fine as it did before. Sadly i dont have another pc i can test it in, will just wait and maybe it will fix it self or a driver/bios comes out for it to work properly.
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/04 10:25:53 (permalink)
    Just a thought, since my SC2 card had two fans that could be spun at different speeds and temps. Could it be that the card only sees 1 fan attached to the pcb vs two fans like the stock cooler? Hence it going into like a "safe mode" or Limp mode thinking somethings wrong. It still shows up in Pxoc as a Sc2 card. Just a thought after watching a few videos of Hybrid sc2 cards being taken apart i only see the one connection from the pcb to the spliter for the Mosfet fan and the pump. Has anyone tried pluggin the pump into the gpu fan connector and the Mosfet fan into the Memory/Vrm fan connector separatly? Just a random though, on those still trying to figure out the Icx missing temps and no sensor button.  
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/04 12:10:28 (permalink)
    Changing over to the hybrid cooler does change the card to a single fan. All 9 thermal sensors should still read correctly even after the swap.
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/04 14:20:05 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Changing over to the hybrid cooler does change the card to a single fan. All 9 thermal sensors should still read correctly even after the swap.


    Are we talking about just the conversion kit or even the hybrid cards sold? Cause I have the hybrid card and I have two fan options.
     
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    Just a thought, since my SC2 card had two fans that could be spun at different speeds and temps. Could it be that the card only sees 1 fan attached to the pcb vs two fans like the stock cooler? Hence it going into like a "safe mode" or Limp mode thinking somethings wrong. It still shows up in Pxoc as a Sc2 card. Just a thought after watching a few videos of Hybrid sc2 cards being taken apart i only see the one connection from the pcb to the spliter for the Mosfet fan and the pump. Has anyone tried pluggin the pump into the gpu fan connector and the Mosfet fan into the Memory/Vrm fan connector separatly? Just a random though, on those still trying to figure out the Icx missing temps and no sensor button.  


    I would've thought that you should keep the plugs separate since it has two fans. Since I bought a hybrid card, I have no idea how the new kit installs. The older kit that I did use for conversion was for the older Titan X (Maxwell).
     
    edit: maybe you can't as its possible one header (the one by the power fan) is "designed" to handle the pump, but the other one (by the GPU) might not be.
    post edited by Goobers - 2017/08/04 14:26:18
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/04 14:28:23 (permalink)
    Goobers
     
    Are we talking about just the conversion kit or even the hybrid cards sold? Cause I have the hybrid card and I have two fan options.

    Both the conversion kit & hybrid cards only use one fan on the card itself. Are both fan options adjustable?
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/04 14:55:57 (permalink)
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    Goobers
     
    Are we talking about just the conversion kit or even the hybrid cards sold? Cause I have the hybrid card and I have two fan options.

    Both the conversion kit & hybrid cards only use one fan on the card itself. Are both fan options adjustable?


    Actually, that reminds me of when I first set this up... I couldn't figure out how to change up the speed of the power fan, no matter what I set it to, nothing happened with the power fan... even though it did change on its own. I see... despite having the option... it does nothing. Or actually, it's the "opposite"... the "G" is doing nothing (shows 0 rpm, despite AUTO setting it to 50%), but "P" is controlling everything instead (shows 1500 rpm once auto takes over). Uh, I'm confused... need to look into it some more later.
     
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    Re: 1080 Ti SC2 air to hybrid conversion 2017/08/04 16:27:37 (permalink)
    I have once fan slider but it seems to be doing nothing, unless the Mosfet/vrm fan is that quite. If i had another pc i would try it in there but sadly this is my only higher end pc, all others are laptops. And my motherboard only has one Pcie x16 slot (GA-B85M-D3V gigabyte v2.1 rev) I have reset the card in the slot maybe 5 times now. So i doubt that is the issue as far as i can tell. Im running the latest version of Pxoc at 6.1.13.
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