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2017/07/30 01:15:46 (permalink)
Hello. I've had this card for a couple of months now (Bought the card off a friend who had it a couple of years), and when put under load (Playing Battlefield One with Ultra settings, mostly), I've noticed that the card gets to 80°C constantly (I'm talking 3-4 hours). Is this going to be ok for the card?
Now, I do know about the Thermal Throttling this card has, and to be honest, I don't really see any difference in gameplay/framerates, etc. Should I lower the game video settings top drop the temps, or is everything going to be ok?
 
If there is anything else you need to know, please ask.
 
Thanks in advance.
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/07/30 01:37:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Feeeeerg 2017/07/30 06:51:06
Thermal throttling ONLY occurs if your card is going below stock clocks.

80c is fine, and your card will dynamically adjust the clock and fans to stay there. If you want your card to run cooler, set your fans to run a little higher.
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/07/30 06:11:16 (permalink)
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If you want your card to run cooler, set your fans to run a little higher.

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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/07/30 07:07:36 (permalink)
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Thermal throttling ONLY occurs if your card is going below stock clocks.

80c is fine, and your card will dynamically adjust the clock and fans to stay there. If you want your card to run cooler, set your fans to run a little higher.

I forgot to mention that card has a reference blower. But anyway, I've bumped the fan up to 60% now, and it's running a fair bit cooler.
 
Thanks for your help. :)
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/07/31 13:56:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Feeeeerg 2017/10/30 17:08:24
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Thermal throttling ONLY occurs if your card is going below stock clocks.

80c is fine, and your card will dynamically adjust the clock and fans to stay there. If you want your card to run cooler, set your fans to run a little higher.

I forgot to mention that card has a reference blower. But anyway, I've bumped the fan up to 60% now, and it's running a fair bit cooler.
 
Thanks for your help. :)


Yeah using aggressive fan curve i find is best. I have been able to oc my 980 to 1512Mhz with the reference cooler not getting above 82 degrees
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/10/22 06:41:01 (permalink)
Hi I have a EVGA G-Force GTX670 I would like to know what Temp is to hot In gaming, I get 60c to 68c
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/10/22 13:03:38 (permalink)
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Hi I have a EVGA G-Force GTX670 I would like to know what Temp is to hot In gaming, I get 60c to 68c


No, those are great temperatures. Also, start your own thread in the future to avoid threadjacking.
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/10/22 16:58:00 (permalink)
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Hi I have a EVGA G-Force GTX670 I would like to know what Temp is to hot In gaming, I get 60c to 68c


No, those are great temperatures. Also, start your own thread in the future to avoid threadjacking.




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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/10/24 06:46:33 (permalink)
you can see from here thermal throttling in a 900 card can start at  60c  , but should be not severe  maybe a few MHz   if the card is dropping below  speced clocks then there maybe more to that issue  at temps below 85c   [ it like what, 90 -95c  may fall in to fail safe mode/ clocking ?? ]  
 
you could google like  gtx 970 throttling at 60c  and see some on that
 
 
also I think some of this was why like water coolers / hybrid kits  were I a big demand  on these and newer cards   like with pascal  and how it new gpu boost 3.0 works 
 
''To start, Pascal clockspeeds are much more temperature-dependent than on Maxwell 2 or Kepler. Kepler would drop a single bin at a specific temperature, and Maxwell 2 would sustain the same clockspeed throughout. However Pascal will drop its clockspeeds as the GPU warms up, regardless of whether it still has formal thermal and TDP headroom to spare. This happens by backing off both on the clockspeed at each individual voltage point, and backing off to lower voltage points altogether''
 
so tio me with that better cooling = less chance  or maintain  a more stable higher clocking
 
with that reference blower cooler  I would pull the card out and inspect / clean the dust  collected in the cooler  fan and cooling fins   a bit more often   its not as easy to to see that or get to as with most aftermarket coolers  .
 
gpu -z has this for my card ??   anyway it shows the max is set for 91c  on it according to that thing    with a reference cooler  about 85c is normal average at reference clocking   so it looks like on this cards bios settings  91c maybe  the temp the card would go to fail safe  and 83c would be its throttling start point  ? [+ or - some what ]
 
 
 
 
good luck
 
 
post edited by Dr.Death - 2017/10/24 07:03:56
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/10/24 07:27:21 (permalink)
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you can see from here thermal throttling in a 900 card can start at  60c  , ...


That is not correct. "Thermal throttling" has a specific meaning and describes what happens when the card drops its clocks below advertised baseline clocks in order to protect itself from damage. GPU boost dropping boosted clocks by 13 Mhz is NOT "thermal throttling". Thermal throttling starts at around 91c to 95c; we'll assume 95c from here on. Up until 95c, GPU boost will progressively reduce boost clocks the hotter it gets. Below 95c, the card will run at baseline clocks minimum, or more. Above 95c, where thermal throttling occurs, the clocks will finally start dropping below baseline. Don't confuse GPU Boost performance modulation with thermal throttling.
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/10/24 09:10:09 (permalink)
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you can see from here thermal throttling in a 900 card can start at  60c  , ...


That is not correct. "Thermal throttling" has a specific meaning and describes what happens when the card drops its clocks below advertised baseline clocks in order to protect itself from damage. GPU boost dropping boosted clocks by 13 Mhz is NOT "thermal throttling". Thermal throttling starts at around 91c to 95c; we'll assume 95c from here on. Up until 95c, GPU boost will progressively reduce boost clocks the hotter it gets. Below 95c, the card will run at baseline clocks minimum, or more. Above 95c, where thermal throttling occurs, the clocks will finally start dropping below baseline. Don't confuse GPU Boost performance modulation with thermal throttling.

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Starts at 98c for the 980.
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/10/24 12:29:23 (permalink)
ya, ok  if you say so  .
 
https://forums.evga.com/980-Ti-Downclocking-Above-60C-m2355251.aspx
 
http://www.overclock.net/t/1561166/gtx-980-ti-throttles-at-65-degrees
 
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/425892-safe-maximum-temps-for-a-reference-gtx-980/
 
and so on and on 
 
I guess you could post white papers / tech notes from NVidia on that ??
 
from what I gave above the ''current temp limit''  is 83c   the ''MAX'' is 91c  and should crash to fail safe to protect the card .
 
unless you got something from NVidia ..
 
like from here
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2752/~/nvidia-gpu-maximum-operating-temperature-and-overheating
 
''If a GPU hits the maximum temperature, the driver will throttle down performance to attempt to bring temperature back underneath the maximum specification.''
 
to me that current  limit of 83c is that 
 
but the MAX is the MAX when the card hits or exceeds that  = the GPU temperature continues to increase despite the performance throttling, the GPU will shutdown the system to prevent damage to the graphics card.
 
[that's for todays cards / cards bios sett ups  being that info from NVidia is old ]
 
good luck   
 
 
 
post edited by Dr.Death - 2017/10/24 12:38:57
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/10/25 11:43:11 (permalink)
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''If a GPU hits the maximum temperature, the driver will throttle down performance to attempt to bring temperature back underneath the maximum specification.'' 
to me that current  limit of 83c is that 

 Nvidia literally defines the max temp in the previous sentence: "This maximum temperature varies by GPU, but is generally in the 105C range"
 
Your poor reading comprehension has failed you, and you still don't seem to get the difference between thermal throttling and temperature based boost clocks. Oh well.
 
post edited by somethingc00l - 2017/10/25 13:54:37
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/10/25 11:49:27 (permalink)
Dynamic adjustment & thermal throttling are two different things.
 
13 MHz adjustments here and there = Dynamic adjustment.
 
Massive clock adjustments at once along with voltage reduction = Thermal throttling.
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Re: GTX980 High temps. Is it ok for such a prolonged length of time? 2017/10/25 14:46:12 (permalink)
ya, ok
 
'' a Boost Clock is enabled increasing clock speeds until the graphics card hits its predetermined Power Target''   and to what I said on that gpu-z   where that 83c [+/- ] is that target for the throttling    and that 91c [+/-]  will crash it to low power states  to save the card ?? [as I assume by all this I read]
 
but I understand your the ex-spert    so i'll leave you to it  and i'll just comprehend some ...
 
good luck 
 
https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/gpu-boost/technology
 
 
also
 
''By default GPU Boost will monitor both temperature and power, but 3rd party overclocking utilities such as EVGA Precision X can prioritize temperature over power, at which point GPU Boost 2 can actually ignore TDP to a certain extent to focus on power''
 
[actually ignore TDP to a certain extent]
 
if you got something from NVidia to add please do
 
enjoy
 
 
 
 
post edited by Dr.Death - 2017/10/25 15:16:19
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