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So,
A guy did it (Upgrade Addiction, an awesome channel BTW), with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut.
Despite this is most probably going to void your warranty (liquid metal, not thermal paste replacement), It's impressive how it can come cooler in full load.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/06/26 06:09:16
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You should not use conductonaut in combination with aluminium, it's a big hint in the manual. I dont know what the cooler is made of but i wouldn't recommend it.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/06/26 06:47:14
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Tuxedo.
You should not use conductonaut in combination with aluminium, it's a big hint in the manual.
I dont know what the cooler is made of but i wouldn't recommend it.
The K|ngp|n card, aka top of the 1080ti line, is Copper Plated Aluminum, so I would suspect this is aluminum. When people pull their cooler and realize the liquid metal has been eating the aluminum and has completely voided their $800 gpu warranty, they will regret the few degree difference this made.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/06/26 08:31:08
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Hey Scarlet-Tech are you sure the plate that contacts the GPU die isn't nickel plated copper? I thought everything that uses heatpipes usually does that or leaves the copper plate bare (Ie. not nickel plated). The reason for this is it's a real PITA to solder copper<->aluminum (heatpipes are copper). That said the liquid metal TIM is a horrible idea for a GPU. 
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/06/26 11:45:33
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This is about as smart as putting your water cooled rig outside in the middle of a Canadian winter in hopes to overclock it some more..
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/06/26 12:33:40
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Not to mention if the liquid metal comes in contact with anything other than the GPU die your card will short out...
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/06/26 12:46:56
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I was about to do the same, but as extra use non conductive tape to make sure my card won't die. Though i still don't know if the heatsink is made out of alu or a mix.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/06/26 12:47:23
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/06/26 12:49:28
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Not worth the risk imo.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/10 14:21:52
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I would only do this with a CPU, with a GPU the tempurature difference is so small that it can be attributed to ambient temp changes. It just isn't worth the time or the risk.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/10 17:02:52
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Could we get an answer from EVGA regarding the material of the coldplate that contacts the GPU die?
It wouldn't make sense to use a Gallium-based TIM if the coldplate is made out of Aluminum, but I'm guessing it's the standard nickel-plated copper that everyone else is using?
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/11 10:52:47
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Could we get an answer from EVGA regarding the material of the coldplate that contacts the GPU die?
It wouldn't make sense to use a Gallium-based TIM if the coldplate is made out of Aluminum, but I'm guessing it's the standard nickel-plated copper that everyone else is using?
It's nickel-plated copper.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/12 15:43:03
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/12 17:08:26
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Man I really wish I could get a more substantial response than that, because other people are reporting decent results. I have leftover Conductonaut and CLU so if it's a non-zero gain then it seems worth it, so long as it doesn't void Warranty. Do any EVGA officials browse this forum?
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/12 17:31:38
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If the FTW3 has a nickle plated copper coldplate, why is everyone talking about aluminum? Am I missing something here?
Not trying to be a smart ass, generally interested. I understand the inherent risk of using liquid metal but materials shouldn't be an issue in this case.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/12 18:28:25
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Pretty interesting. Swapping the stock TIM with Kryonaut has worked well enough for my needs, and I don't have the financial fortitude to risk it, personally.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/12 18:52:56
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EVGA will probably never give a direct statement "allowing" members to put a conductive material on the gpu. Even if you just want to know what materials the cooler is made of. They do no want to imply permission to risk your hardware.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/12 19:15:23
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Asploit
Man I really wish I could get a more substantial response than that, because other people are reporting decent results. I have leftover Conductonaut and CLU so if it's a non-zero gain then it seems worth it, so long as it doesn't void Warranty. Do any EVGA officials browse this forum?
What is so hard to understand? The coldplate is nickel-plated copper, the heatpipes are copper with nickel-plating on them, the fins are aluminum.   As long as the liquid metal stays inside the green box you're fine. If the liquid metal goes outside the green box and starts touching the components in red your card is done.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/12 19:54:32
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Yeah I have zero questions regarding the actual process, I'm asking about the EVGA warranty specifically.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/12 20:03:33
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I would think liquid metal would prevent putting the card back to stock. Or any electrical short caused by the liquid metal would void the warranty Read the Warranty TERMS - for your region evga.com/support/warranty/graphics-cards/ Especially - these come to mind Product condition:This Limited Warranty is conditioned upon proper use of the Product by the Purchaser. This Limited Warranty does not cover:- Graphics Cards that are modified by customer outside of factory specifications and/or not in factory condition. - Any damages to the components, hardware and/or assembly of the graphics card including neglect, or unusual physical, electrical or electromechanical stress. - Direct usage of paint, submersion of the graphic card in oil, use of adhesives or glues on any part of the graphics card, usage of solder to the PCB, electronics and/or component modification. - Defects or damage resulting from the use of a 3rd party product in conjunction or connection with accessories, products, software or secondary peripheral equipment not furnished for the usage with or approved for the Graphics Card by EVGA CORPORATION.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/12 20:43:21
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I would think liquid metal would prevent putting the card back to stock. Or any electrical short caused by the liquid metal would void the warranty
Read the Warranty TERMS - for your region
evga.com/support/warranty/graphics-cards/
Especially - these come to mind
Product condition:This Limited Warranty is conditioned upon proper use of the Product by the Purchaser. This Limited Warranty does not cover:- Graphics Cards that are modified by customer outside of factory specifications and/or not in factory condition.
- Any damages to the components, hardware and/or assembly of the graphics card including neglect, or unusual physical, electrical or electromechanical stress.
- Direct usage of paint, submersion of the graphic card in oil, use of adhesives or glues on any part of the graphics card, usage of solder to the PCB, electronics and/or component modification.
- Defects or damage resulting from the use of a 3rd party product in conjunction or connection with accessories, products, software or secondary peripheral equipment not furnished for the usage with or approved for the Graphics Card by EVGA CORPORATION.
The warranty will be void if the liquid metal shorts the card out. Returning the card back to factory isn't a problem. All you have to do is remove the liquid metal and put any non-conductive thermal paste back onto the core before sending it in for rma.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/12 21:12:12
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/13 05:05:57
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While I won't argue the that 10 degree drop reported in the second video seems to be on the extreme side, I think these two videos do a better job illustrating how terrible the FE style coolers are compared to 3rd party options. Even with the abysmal cooler it drop a few degrees and lowered the fan speed.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/13 06:04:03
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Could we get an answer from EVGA regarding the material of the coldplate that contacts the GPU die?
It wouldn't make sense to use a Gallium-based TIM if the coldplate is made out of Aluminum, but I'm guessing it's the standard nickel-plated copper that everyone else is using?
It's nickel-plated copper.
Do you know if this is the same for 1080 ftw2?
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/13 07:25:50
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No explanation from EVGA is likely. It's simple, don't use liquid metal on a GPU. That was a very bad idea. You may be lucky, but you may have damaged your card, or slow on going damage, and voided the warranty too.
Good luck with this. Just don't it again!
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/13 09:07:41
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Use liquid electrical tape or kapton tape..........................
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/13 09:09:07
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Use liquid electrical tape or kapton tape..........................
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/13 10:50:18
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This is about as smart as putting your water cooled rig outside in the middle of a Canadian winter in hopes to overclock it some more..
That actually works....just gotta manage coolant temps really well, and make sure your reservoirs / loop is vented for liquid expansion. I'd never use a liquid metal TIM on a GPU. I push my hardware just about as hard as anyone, and have never even considered it.
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Re: 1080TI FTW3 with Liquid Metal
2017/07/13 12:39:36
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What can actually damage the GPU chip when using that liquid metal?
Is there a way to find the components somewhere?
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