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Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update

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2017/05/31 17:29:19 (permalink)
If you have Driver 382.05 installed then you should not have this driver update run through Windows Update.
Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update
382.05 is the Driver and All our Stop Gaps Fail to stop it.
The following file is available for download from the Microsoft  Download Center:
Download the "Show or hide updates" troubleshooter package now. This is a New File and seems to work now on the Creator Version
It will also install the Audio Drivers and the 3D Drivers.
This Windows Update will cause your WU's to Fail when it installs the Driver.
 
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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/05/31 17:53:22 (permalink)
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    It will cause your WU's to Fail

    Huh? Working fine for me.
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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/05/31 18:17:48 (permalink)
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    It will cause your WU's to Fail

    Huh? Working fine for me.


    Huh?
    Did Windows Update Install a New Graphics Driver While your were Folding?
    I did not say that Driver 382.05 causes the WU to fail I am saying the Update of the Driver by Windows Update Caused them to Fail.
     
    I run Driver 378.92 on my GTX 1080 Ti Graphics Cards, Driver 382.05 are poor at Folding IMO.
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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/05/31 19:09:10 (permalink)
    I should update to creative at some point...


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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/05/31 19:22:12 (permalink)
    Chris21010
    I should update to creative at some point...

    I would hold Off you have more control under the Anniversary Edition
    For other than Windows Update being a 100 times as bad as Anniversary Edition Apps under the Anniversary Edition allowed you to select what Apps to update when you checked for Apps Updates, the Creator Edition install ALL Apps that have an update.
    See what happens when you update 5 computers and have GOW4 wanting to download 9+GB at once.

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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/02 11:41:47 (permalink)
    Thanks for the update on Win Creator update bcavnaugh
     
    Driver 378.92 better than 372.90 or 373.06 ?

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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/02 12:19:44 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    Thanks for the update on Win Creator update bcavnaugh
     
    Driver 378.92 better than 372.90 or 373.06 ?


    You cannot install Drivers 372.90 or 373.06 on an 1080 Ti (I Wish We Could)
    I still use Driver 373.06 on all my Graphics Cards below the 1080 Ti.
    But for the 1080 Ti Driver 378.92 is better than Driver 382.05 IMO.
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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 08:15:00 (permalink)
    I don't like the forced updates either but to many apathetic Window users. My take is the procrastinators with their derelict systems help push Microsoft to force feed updates to keep all running smooth and safe. 

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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 08:41:39 (permalink)
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    I don't like the forced updates either but to many apathetic Window users. My take is the procrastinators with their derelict systems help push Microsoft to force feed updates to keep all running smooth and safe. 



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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 08:48:49 (permalink)
    Also once more they remove IE from the Start Menu.

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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 08:55:39 (permalink)
    I just keep it pinned to the taskbar. Edit: Although one time they even removed that on me.
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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 08:59:55 (permalink)
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    I just keep it pinned to the taskbar. Edit: Although one time they even removed that on me.


    That and once even from my Desktop as well.

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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 09:07:25 (permalink)
    Yes removing IE desktop icon is common. They want everyone to use Edge. I still use both because I want to access my password manager I have been using for years.

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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 09:37:47 (permalink)
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    Yes removing IE desktop icon is common. They want everyone to use Edge. I still use both because I want to access my password manager I have been using for years.


    So now you know why I gave you a  on your post above.

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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 11:35:58 (permalink)
    Microsoft wants to move the OS and all of there software to SaaS "software as a service" - subscription model to guarantee future cash flow.
     
    The articles I've read seem to indicate the MS believes they can implement a safer more stable OS if all PCs are setup the same, all update are from the same baseline - removing the complexity of most variables outside of hardware.  I believe this is just a cost cutting approach.
     
    Users are left with a broken system and have to figure it out when an update hoses the PC or disregards their previous customizations
     
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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 11:53:49 (permalink)
    "Microsoft wants to move the OS and all of there software to SaaS "software as a service" - subscription model to guarantee future cash flow."
    From what I can remember that would be for the commercial offerings such as Enterprise and maybe Professional.

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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 12:27:50 (permalink)
    They don't want un-patched systems anymore. Buy windows once and keep up to date for the foreseeable future. They are making money on enterprise, small business and cloud offerings. Sure they will try to sell you on office and other paid offerings, but all indications are that Windows will be kept current for free - just pay once. They are really keen to get out of supporting so many OS versions and the extra complications from unbundling the security patches.


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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 14:18:06 (permalink)
    EyeDeeNo
    I don't like the forced updates either but to many apathetic Window users. My take is the procrastinators with their derelict systems help push Microsoft to force feed updates to keep all running smooth and safe. 


     
    Some updates make sense too keep automatic for the average users, mostly OS updates, though I don't think it should ever be forced or counter-intuitive to turn off that automation for advanced users.
     
    In the case of drivers, I think there is little reason for Windows to automatically update those without user input beyond initial installation. If the user doesn't opt into automatic driver updates, no automatic driver updates. I've recently had a graphics driver uninstall and reinstall while I was using my system. It freaked me out and made me think it was something more serious since my screen blacked out and the application I was using crashed.
     
    All in all though, I believe they do it for the lowest common denominator. The average user can't manage driver updates, none the less OS updates, so Microsoft probably automates it so people don't go blaming them or the OS for potential issues (performance, security, etc). Not that the actual average is necessarily that incompetent (as I said, lowest common denominator), but I can see how this may be useful for somebody who isn't tech savvy.
     
    Only problem is, it causes issues for advanced user who want / need to be on a specific driver other than the latest in Microsoft's database, and then it goes ahead and updates it anyway. Then they bury those settings, and in Windows 10 they're totally mixed up, it's nowhere near as easy to find some of the options as it was in previous versions of Windows (such as 7).

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    Microsoft wants to move the OS and all of there software to SaaS "software as a service" - subscription model to guarantee future cash flow.
     
    The articles I've read seem to indicate the MS believes they can implement a safer more stable OS if all PCs are setup the same, all update are from the same baseline - removing the complexity of most variables outside of hardware.  I believe this is just a cost cutting approach.
     
    Users are left with a broken system and have to figure it out when an update hoses the PC or disregards their previous customizations
     
    I avoid MS IE & Edge when ever possible - Firefox is preferred



    I really hope they don't go in this direction, or if they do, they at least do it right and using Windows doesn't become a constant exorbitant expense as well as being a pain. But I'm losing faith in Microsoft as they can't even manage their OS properly, and that's what they do best IMO.



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    Re: Windows 10 Creator is going to Force a Graphics Driver Update 2017/06/03 16:05:38 (permalink)
    There are ways to disable automatic driver updates and I understand they are going to surface those controls at some point.
    Some internet wisdom on group policy settings and the like is entirely wrong. Many settings there are legacy or have specific dependencies that won't be me for home users.


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