Wait for it......
AMD: but it's not optimized yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

If the date for the founders edition to be available is any indication, you can plan mid September before any gaming cards are made available.

Amd is really trying hard to allow Nvidia to get a volta card out to laugh at Vega.

HBM2 yields and delays are why it's late
 
 
 
and more news
AMD Radeon RX Vega Mainstream Graphics Cards With Vega 11 GPUs Shipping At The End of 2017, Possibly Arriving in Early 2018 
http://wccftech.com/amd-r...gpus-late-2017-launch/

AMD gambled and lost with HBM. You'd think they would have learned with Fury X's failure. It's time for AMD to sell their graphics division so we can finally get some competition.

Nvidia with ARM(ie tegra)
 
ARM will soon be in competition with AMD and Intel
lower power use - with about the same performance - and Energy is the primary issue with AI and servers
you want the best bang for the lowest power consumption
 
 
you also have IBM's powerpc and the return of another chip maker - let alone Google's TPU
 
the future is lower power use
Intel and AMD are killing themselves with the heat makers
 
with all the datacenter growth the future is ARM 
 
 
 

rjohnson11

gridironcpj
AMD gambled and lost with HBM. You'd think they would have learned with Fury X's failure. It's time for AMD to sell their graphics division so we can finally get some competition.

AMD is competing quite well. NVIDIA will also turn to HBM style memory eventually

Isn't the Tesla using HBM?
 
 

AMD did not catch market share with 400/500 series - they lost 2% last quarter
 
yes competition is good. , but to gain market share you have to demonstrate repeated successes- superior product/pricepoint 
and customer support- ie software drivers and applications(new ones too)....as wells as technical support (as in fixing software and drivers)
 
that requires Staff and AMD dropped quite a few to get lean - because they are bleeding $$$
Rory nearly killed AMD when he took over - lisa has rescued it when he was canned and she took over
 
AMD will not gain server share - ARM IS
both Intel and AMD are losing there - it's about performance/watt - because energy cost $$$ so you want the best bang for your $$$
chips are fixed cost(one time cost) energy is variable(it keeps costing you $$$)
 
and even if you need a certain type of performance(for AI) from CPU - intel wins there over AMD
 
the future is AI like jen said - Intel and Nvidia have leg in the door
 
until AMD can demonstrate leadership in software(and AI) as well as the hardware they will lag behind
 
Intel just got a kick in the Arse...it's about time
they were dragging their heels because they had no competition
 
just look at the top 10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOP500
 
the only one AMD has is oak ridge and it's in replacement now with power PC
 
even Intel looking at ARM
https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/9/14867310/arm-servers-microsoft-intel-compute-conference
 
why??? ... they have been losing market share of datacenters to ARM - because of the lower power costs

Vlada011
They are not normal really, something is not clear with Volta. If they didn't present on Computex new GPU she is not finished yet.

 
Nvidia just released 1080 Ti. The GDDR6 memory for Volta will not be mass produced until Q1 2018, so it looks like Volta will be a H1 2018 product.

Some new Vega "news".

http://segmentnext.com/2017/06/05/official-amd-vega-benchmark/
 
"Official AMD Vega Benchmark Claims It Is 21% More Powerful Than The Nvidia Titan Xp."

seth89
Some new Vega "news".

http://segmentnext.com/2017/06/05/official-amd-vega-benchmark/
 
"Official AMD Vega Benchmark Claims It Is 21% More Powerful Than The Nvidia Titan Xp."

"It is advised that you take this information with a bit of salt as this benchmark has not been confirmed from AMD yet and it would be wise to wait for the official word from AMD before you bet your money on team Red."

Anyone find it odd the benchmark slide says under nda until May 8th? If they had proof like this in hand during computex and the nda had already expired wouldn't they have mentioned it to satiate the people going for 1080s and 1080ti cards because they are tired of waiting for a Vega cards? Instead they do a pretty demo with two cards and no fps shown.

I'll take this with a huge grain of salt. I find it hard to believe that a card with not a single core more than the last high end card is some how 22% faster than the competitions currently top of the line card. Maybe it's true maybe it's a truly genuinely innovative architecture. But until we see third party reviews I remain very skeptical.

I'm excited for Vega but man I would be kicking myself by now if I hadn't bought a 1070 when it launched right at a year ago.

Xavier Zepherious
they eat lots of power
 
 
This is the first confirmation that AMD is already sharing details of RX Vega lineup with partners. The launch is coming closer as we are still 5 weeks for RX Vega to arrive. However, there is a very good chance we will be seeing custom designs at launch.
As for the power consumption, I don’t think anyone expected it to be lower than Frontier’s, which has a board power of 300W (air-cooled) or 375W (liquid edition).
 
https://videocardz.com/70465/msi-damn-rx-vega-needs-a-lot-of-power 

I need a Vega version with a 150-180 watt TDP. Something comparable to the 1070 for my new build.
 
Come on, AMD. It's time to come full circle. Performance and efficiency.