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2017/05/24 19:59:53 (permalink)
So I got my 1080 FTW back from RMA because the last one was being silly, and the replacement that I have is working, yaaah.  But it appears that I am not getting anywhere near the scores I am supposed to.  Even before I RMA'd the last card, I barely broke 600k a day with my old 1080FTW.  My system is the one in my sig, and my slots are running at PCIE 3.0 16x, I have confirmed with the BIOS and with GPUZ.  I was getting 750kppd earlier today, but then the WU crashed and my current WU only have me at 596k ppd :(  I'm at a loss as to why I would not be getting the numbers I am supposed to be.  Currently the cards are stable, I have 2, 1 FTW one Gaming X that I got from the marketplace, and their temps are around 73C.  Clocks are over 1900 on both cards.  I am using 373.06
 
Should I wait a few days before worrying that something is seriously wrong with my rig and think about replacing it?

 

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    Mhertz
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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/05/24 21:34:48 (permalink)
    What case and cooling are you using with two GTX 1080's?
     
     
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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/05/24 22:10:13 (permalink)
    I am using a Fractal Define XL with the side panel off as even with all the case fans on the units get too hot too quickly.  The cards are NOT themally throttling as they stay below the allotted temperature and are both staying well above boost target.  If I put the side panel on, they throttle as they reach 80C very quickly and continue to climb.  Currently they are sitting at 68C for the MSI card 2 and 75C for the FTW card 1.  I have not touched the gpu clock speed, just the memory speeds.  As I said I had this issue when I had just the single card before I RMA'd it and it barely broke 600k when it was by itself.  I have verified that my E5-2670 does support pcie 3.0 and that it is enabled in the bios and etc etc.  

     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/05/25 09:57:21 (permalink)
    I will fire my 1080 up and see what they can do as far as PPD. (Driver 373.06)
    I am seeing 724870.8 (Long Run P11418) and 745699.6 (Short Run P9191)
     
    I would do this: (Unplug network cable or turn off your Wireless network)
    Remove NVIDIA Divers
    Reboot PC


    Run DDU in Save Mode
    Reboot PC

     
    Using the Registry Editor Delete:
    Win7
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Control\Video
    Ignore the Errors

    Reboot PC
     
    Win10
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video
    Ignore the Error
    Reboot PC
     
    Install 373.06 Graphics Drivers
    Reboot PC

     
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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/05/25 16:17:38 (permalink)
    My 1080 is usually in the 750k-800k ballpark, depending on the work unit.
    Single-card Semperon 3000+/socket754 rig but at least it's PCI-E 2.0 full 16 bit for the GPU.
     
     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/05/25 17:04:57 (permalink)
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    I will fire my 1080 up and see what they can do as far as PPD. (Driver 373.06)
    I am seeing 724870.8 (Long Run P11418) and 745699.6 (Short Run P9191)
     
    I would do this: (Unplug network cable or turn off your Wireless network)
    Remove NVIDIA Divers
    Reboot PC


    Run DDU in Save Mode
    Reboot PC

     
    Using the Registry Editor Delete:
    Win7
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Control\Video
    Ignore the Errors

    Reboot PC
     
    Win10
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video
    Ignore the Error
    Reboot PC

    Install 373.06 Graphics Drivers
    Reboot PC

     
    X79 If not Gen3 (Under NVIDIA Control Panel) then Run force-enable-gen3.exe
    Reboot PC


    I actually did all this prior to installing the new cards.  When I had the old card, it was a fresh install of windows.  It's frustrating as the MSI card is destroying the FTW, literally.  I'm going to give it another few days and then I am going to swap the cards around and see if it's a slot problem.  Currently the FTW in slot 1 is making 569k ppd and the MSI is making a whopping 863k ppd.  All tests show that the cards and slots are in pcie 3.0.  I won't know the real truth until I get some some similar work units on each card to see if it truly is the case.  And it's not like I don't have the pcie lanes.  E5-2670 has 40 of em, and there is nothing else in the slots on the motherboard.
     
    Both cards are still running below 80C and are still boosted well above stock.

     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/05/25 17:07:46 (permalink)
    PCIe GEN3 and X16 all Cards Per NVIDIA Control Panel?
    What are they showing in your Bios?

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/05/25 17:16:28 (permalink)
    In my BIOS they are showing PCIE 3 as well.  As I said the MSI card is performing as it's supposed to, it's the FTW, like the previous FTW, that is performing horribly.  I figure at this rate, if I give it a few more days, then swap cards, and if the FTW performs the same in the slot the MSI is in, then I know for sure something is up with the FTW.  However if the MSI does the same horrible jobs as the FTW does in the primary slot, then I know it's time to RMA this board as there is something wrong with the slot as it's not working properly at all.  A couple more days will also give me a chance to get more work units to compare the 2 cards a bit better.  I hope.  Just frustrating that I can't seem to get what the FTW is supposed to get.

     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/03 20:44:00 (permalink)
    Which OC software are you using for your GPU ?
     
    what are your settings ?
     
    80 C is kind of HOT, how warm is your room ? (My Delta T is 39 C on air)
     
    My settings for my (single) air cooled EVGA 1080 FE
     
    X58 MB, i7-950 CPU at 4 GHz, Win 7 Pro
     
    Nvidia Driver 372.90 (Only PhysX and GPU driver installed)
     
    fan 100%
    Room 22 - 24 C (73 - 75 F)
    GPU at 2062 MHz, temp 63 C, at 1075 mV
     
    Afterburner 4.3.0 settings
    Temp limit 92
    Power limit 120%
    Core Clock +200
     
    PPD varies by WU but PPD in the 700K - 900k rage

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/04 01:09:30 (permalink)
    Using precision x.  Had the card set on stock settings.  When the card is solo, it refuses to boost half the time.  I am at my wits end.  If I have both cards in the system, after a day of folding they both start going at about 900k ppd.  But solo, the 1080 FTW just sucks.  Right now it's going at 1721, and I have it set to overclock at +50 on the gpu and it's not even doing that, just sitting at stock speed and ignoring the overclock setting.  Temp is a cold 50C.  I'm about to ask for another RMA on the card as I've had it reboot my system several times while folding today and yesterday causing me lost points from "bad work units" when the card wasn't even hot, at only 65C.  It will be my second FTW that's bunk.   Beginning to regret having bought a B stock unit at this point :(.
     
    The MSI is currently in my son's rig as he was complaining his 970 wasn't able to handle Resident Evil properly.  So until he can save up to buy a better card or buy the game on xbone he has my other card.
     
    My room is usually around 20-22C and at night it's even colder as I keep my window open.

     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/04 01:49:24 (permalink)
    I've tried it with Afterburner and increasing the clock does nothing as well.  It will not move off of 1721.  Looks like my card is borked, again.

     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/04 11:55:24 (permalink)
    And now the stupid card is working properly.  I swear this thing has a mind of its own.  Boosted to 1987 with a temp of 67C and getting 903k ppd.

     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/04 12:00:13 (permalink)
    I think it just depends on the work unit whether you get boost clock or not. My cards do the same thing and don't always boost up. I eventually tend to enable kboost through precisionX, although even that winds down oddly after a few days sometimes.


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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/04 13:17:25 (permalink)
    No cause my machine was going great when I had both cards in, both doing over 900k ppd for a few days.  Then when my son needed a new card and I lent him mine, my FTW went back to folding like a 1070.  Unless it's all the stuff over at Stanford and their server issues that's causing this.  Though I do find it weird how when I woudl tell the card to overclock it wouldn't, even when I would try to run a benchmark, a different mining program like marlin, or even folding.  And now after sleeping, the card appears to be working fine.
     
    I don't know if I should take a baseball bat to my computer or what!@$  I am so frustrated with how inconsistent it's been lately.

     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/04 14:33:52 (permalink)
    And another 3 sets of reboots every single time I hit the boost button.  Awesome.  Well looks like card #2 is toast...

     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/09 05:39:28 (permalink)
    Wow... Actually after doing some research on my cards.. both my 1080s are hitting below 700K in PPD.    I have a FTW and a G1 OC..    
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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/12 13:18:55 (permalink)
    what driver version are you running?

     

     
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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/12 13:35:34 (permalink)
    Running 373.06.  

     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/12 13:54:09 (permalink)
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    Running 373.06.  




    As am I..  last few days all are 650-700k ppd..   my 1070 zotac does 700k daily.. 
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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/12 16:48:31 (permalink)
    Grr might need to make my next purchase either a 1070 or a 1080ti.  The 1080 sucks for ETH mining and now it sucks for folding lately.  Why have you forsaken us NVIDIA, why?

     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/12 17:08:21 (permalink)
    Did you also check your Nvidia Control Setting ? Performance, single monitor
     
    With two cards it will sometimes default to SLI being turned On, which is bad for Folding

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/12 17:22:14 (permalink)
    When I had 2 cards, they were both averaging almost 930k ppd according to HFM, but as soon as I went down to 1 card, I am back down to 650k or less ppd.  I had to lend a card to my son so he could play his games as my old 970 was "not cutting it".

     

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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/12 18:27:42 (permalink)
    If you think it is the PC and not the Folding settings
     
    Copy your MB settings for BIOS (I like to use camera on my phone)
     
    Clear CMOS, then reenter your BIOS settings
     
    It could be the WU, check your logs and see if you are getting errors - server did not assign, check your passkey - for bonus points ...?
     
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    Re: 1080 FTW under 650k ppd 2017/06/12 19:02:09 (permalink)
    I have reset the bios multiple times.  But I will do it again.  :)  I have the right passkey, and the projects I keep getting SUCK.  I think that might be the issue.  When I had both cards I would constantly get project 13204, now all I seem to get is 11428 600+ppd or 10496 500+ppd.  I've only gotten project 9415 5 times since May 1st.
     
    my slot is set to client-type advanced, next-unit-percentage 100, max-packet-size big.
     
    Oh and speak of the devil a 13204 just showed up and my current ppd is 932807.  Wish this was the only work unit I would get...
    6% complete
    Base 13541
    Estimated Credit 85525
    Estimated ppd 923667
    tpf 1 min 20 sec
     
    Clocks are currently GPU 1974 Memory 4959. Temp 75C
    post edited by Ranmacanada - 2017/06/12 19:04:26

     

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