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I have been thinking about putting use red dye and clear tubing......I just don't know if Opaque is any problem....all in put would been nice ......
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/22 15:38:45
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/22 18:49:00
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Moved to the Cooling section.
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/22 22:21:21
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Moved to the Cooling section.
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/23 00:51:32
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Basically with red color you have to acknowledge one thing.
Its border line impossible to clean rads out of it. It will stain permanently. Blocks may or may not stain permanently - lottery, but rads are basically write-off if you want to change color.
Other than this, it is personal preference of the user. My 2.5 cent on this go with alcohol based coolant (like new EK's EKFuel or whatever they named it). Pastel (opaque) is absolute pain the back side to clean. If you're ready to take system apart and clean stuff for a week from all nano-particle residue then there is no problem. Biggest advantage of alcohol based coolants is biodegradability within short time window. Pastel as a coolant is toxic and has to be disposed properly.
Also take under advisement that if you will dump a LOT of heat into the loop nano-particles will start to dissolve - something that can't happen in the alcohol based coolant - leading to potentially catastrophic failures (clogging the microchannels). Cleanest pastel is white and its only one resistant to many negative issues you can have with pastel. Its still pain to clean, but it'll keep the color. Any other and you're on you own.
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/23 09:38:50
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On a side note as for the 390 cpu cooler It doesn't do anything for me.......here is kicker I have a 340 and a 360 blocks also.....from the charts on cooling the 360 does a better job than the 390 go figure....would like to see a 390 up close to what changes if any......I have always liked the Koolance blocks!!! not getting any good finds, can't find EK Fuel anywhere ....I guess I'll go back to clear tubing........any more input will be welcome....
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/23 11:23:54
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For me the 390CI dropped my Core i7-5960X Temp 8C overall from the 380i. I have changed all my 2011 Sockets out and all have dropped in Temps. That Copper Top I think made a big difference for me.  The Old 380i I know some like Clear so they now have this one the 390I Acrylic Top 
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/23 11:26:39
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Basically with red color you have to acknowledge one thing.
Its border line impossible to clean rads out of it. It will stain permanently. Blocks may or may not stain permanently - lottery, but rads are basically write-off if you want to change color.
Other than this, it is personal preference of the user. My 2.5 cent on this go with alcohol based coolant (like new EK's EKFuel or whatever they named it). Pastel (opaque) is absolute pain the back side to clean. If you're ready to take system apart and clean stuff for a week from all nano-particle residue then there is no problem. Biggest advantage of alcohol based coolants is biodegradability within short time window. Pastel as a coolant is toxic and has to be disposed properly.
Also take under advisement that if you will dump a LOT of heat into the loop nano-particles will start to dissolve - something that can't happen in the alcohol based coolant - leading to potentially catastrophic failures (clogging the microchannels). Cleanest pastel is white and its only one resistant to many negative issues you can have with pastel. Its still pain to clean, but it'll keep the color. Any other and you're on you own.
EK Coolant is alcohol based?
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/23 12:19:47
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Yes. For old EKoolant technical data sheet was very clear.
For new CryoFuel (sorry not EK Fuel as I wrote earlier) sheet is a bit vague. However I've never had any issues with old EKoolant (rubber/PETG/PMMA). Still have some stock and will use it as long as I have it.
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/23 12:23:18
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But I thought that alcohol ate Acrylic. Glad is stayed away from their Coolant.
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/23 16:06:40
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I used Koolance blue dye long time ago 6-7 years I think........any I never had any bleeding or fading
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/23 16:25:48
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I used Koolance blue dye long time ago 6-7 years I think........any I never had any bleeding or fading
That is why I use it, I did get Water Block staining with their Red stuff much but a little. I drain and Filter my coolant in my rigs 2 times a year and change the tubing once a year. I change the coolant every 2 years.
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/23 17:52:27
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I just got done reading some reviews about the EK-CryoFuel...and I think I'm going get that along with some clear tubing......
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/23 20:04:27
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I'm running the blood red Cryofuel and havent had any problems. Im using PETG Hardline tubing with EK clear blocks and an Alphacool bay res. It's been in for a month or so and havent noticed any staining in the reservoir to this point. Obviously I can't see on the blocks until I drain the loop at some point. I went with the concentrate because it ends up around $11 a liter instead of $17 or whatever the premix liter bottles are.
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/24 00:06:54
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But I thought that alcohol ate Acrylic. Glad is stayed away from their Coolant.
You take this the wrong way. 99.9% of available coolants have some form of alcohol in it (pastel excluded). Perhaps I worded it wrongly because alcohol is more additive than main base (for old EK EKoolant it was 8%). You name it: EK, Aquacomputer, Alphacool, Phobya, Rajintek, Nanoxia ..... add whatever you like in here. Alcohol is such small part of the mixture that it has no adverse effect on anything. Using EKoolant in EVERY rig I have. The most reliable coolant I've ever used. It's not like they used 99% isopropyl for coolant.  Same goes with misconception that 'ethylene glycol'* will dissolve PETG. Yeah if you pour 100% of it, it will. If there is 92% of water and biocides and less than 8% of EG it won't. I would be in really sorry state if it did. * - other names: 1,2-Ethanediol Ethylene alcohol Hypodicarbonous acid Monoethylene glycol 1,2-Dihydroxyethane My MODRig is using PMMA (acrylic) and one or two PETG pieces with EKoolant and its as crisp and clean as the day I filled it in (by now its 11 months old and will have to do maintenance soon, but not before new rig is up so about July)
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/24 00:21:09
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The small amount of alcohol would prevent bacteria growth in the coolant while also lowering the freezing temperature. Of course it will damage the acrylic but by the time it does you probably would have upgraded the system as it would take a long time at such a low percentage.
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/25 00:58:53
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The small amount of alcohol would prevent bacteria growth in the coolant while also lowering the freezing temperature. Of course it will damage the acrylic but by the time it does you probably would have upgraded the system as it would take a long time at such a low percentage.
Exactly that. Nobody will run same tubing for 15 years... at least nobody sane.  On a side note. I always wanted to try Rajintek's RAIAQUA-T1. It's mixture of water and propylenglycol (95/5). But man price is nuts. 15 Euro (or 12$ on Newegg) for 0.5L compared to EK coolants which will cost me about the same but for whole loop. Also problem may arise for maintenance. While EK is established brand and I can get any EK coolant in one or two days, Rajintek is barely in stock at very few places. Like to experiment, but prudence takes priority.
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/25 12:15:03
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Thank you for all of the in put.. 
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Re: Red dye or red Opaque
2017/05/31 19:53:06
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Red die. It will "Pop" more
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