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2017/05/12 01:10:21 (permalink)
Hello, I'm a new user in the forum but a long-time user of EVGA products.
 
I just received my EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 yesterday and tried a little overclocking. However, things didn't go smooth; when I pushed the power limit to like 103%, it instantly crashed when running Furmark or 3Dmark. Is that normal or is this card somehow defective?
 
 
I've read some threads that people can all push the power limit to 120% but mine can't even handle 103%.
At last, I settled at +50mhz in core and +500mhz in vram, which is very low compared to others. That bothers me, anything I can do to improve the results?
 
I'm currently using Corsair RM650i, so it shouldn't be a power problem.
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 07:33:47 (permalink)
    Do you get crashing without overclocking the core or memory at all with the power limit maxed?
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 07:37:01 (permalink)
    timmyboy04
    Do you get crashing without overclocking the core or memory at all with the power limit maxed?


    Better yet, do you get crashing without overclock the core or memory and without increasing the power limit?  If not, there is technically no problem and you technically received exactly what you were promised.
     
    This seems like a common complaint over the last couple days.  It seems like people get caught up in what the card is not capable of doing instead of focusing on whether it is doing what it is supposed to do.

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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 08:17:40 (permalink)
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    timmyboy04
    Do you get crashing without overclocking the core or memory at all with the power limit maxed?


    Better yet, do you get crashing without overclock the core or memory and without increasing the power limit?  If not, there is technically no problem and you technically received exactly what you were promised.
     
    This seems like a common complaint over the last couple days.  It seems like people get caught up in what the card is not capable of doing instead of focusing on whether it is doing what it is supposed to do.




    OK, but correct me if I am wrong, is the FTW3 not marketed as a top tier card in the EVGA line up? With all that extra power delivery and additional fan control you would think it was intended to be overclocked just a bit further than your standard 1080 Ti.
     
    I could have sworn that I read that somewhere in a description on the EVGA marketing angles, where the FTW3 was aimed at enthusiasts aiming to take the card ' a little further' than others.
     
    It might be physically advertised at a specific clock, and yes there is silicon lottery... but it was marketed as something else... and if you can't even get modest clocks (2000 or more given what many others have achieved with less adept PCB designs) than there is some misleading going on here.
     
    I know in my heart I went with the pricier FTW3 card knowing that I should be able to get 'a little more out of it' than stock 1080 Ti's
    post edited by MW1_kING - 2017/05/12 08:20:01


     
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 08:42:31 (permalink)
    You paid for LEDs and 3 fans with temp sensors (and a few other perks). The chips aren't different. GPU Boost 3.0 overclocks for you. We all had to adjust to this with Pascal. If your card is hitting (example) 2000mhz on the core you are getting a +317 overclock without having to do anything.
     
    I can't even touch the core on my Black Edition or else I crash. It's just the nature of Pascal.
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 08:46:01 (permalink)
    timmyboy04
    You paid for LEDs and 3 fans with temp sensors (and a few other perks). The chips aren't different. GPU Boost 3.0 overclocks for you. We all had to adjust to this with Pascal. If your card is hitting (example) 2000mhz on the core you are getting a +317 overclock without having to do anything.
     
    I can't even touch the core on my Black Edition or else I crash. It's just the nature of Pascal.




    Oh wow, I thought some degree of binning would be involved.. so all that power delivery infrastructure... to keep the LEDs and fans ticking over... just doesn't add up... must have been useful for something


     
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 08:49:26 (permalink)
    Also, take others results with a grain of salt. Some people posting their results are, many times:

    Not stable
    Embellishing their results
    The minority because they actually got high overclocks (who's gonna post their crappy scores?)
    Posting higher offsets but may actually be getting lower clocks in the end because that's what offset is.
    YouTubers who got pre-approved cards that are able to hit high numbers.

    I see where your coming from but you should still feel good about your purchase imo.
     
    Edit: Extra power phases do typically mean higher overclocks. I can't explain that without knowing what you are actually boosting your card to.
    post edited by timmyboy04 - 2017/05/12 09:01:35
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 08:56:17 (permalink)
    timmyboy04
    Also, take others results with a grain of salt. The people posting their results are, many times:

    Not stable
    Embellishing their results
    The minority because they actually got high overclocks (who's gonna post their crappy scores?)
    Posting higher offsets but may actually be getting lower clocks in the end because that's what offset is.
    YouTubers who got pre-approved cards that are able to hit high numbers.

    I see where your coming from but you should still feel good about your purchase imo.



    Well yeah I still feel ok about it, I just expected that extra headroom I guess. I saw the youtube reviews hitting high overclocks and high boosts, and like you say 'pre approoved' I guess EVGA/NVIDIA give them binned and tested chips to review which is very misleading lol but hey I'm sure that's the corporate game, but it won't do them any favours in the long run when we realise hey that boost clock ain't realistic.
     
    I know you are only talking 1-2 FPS here anyways, I just  didn't like hearing 'it was advertised at 1683, sorry you got your hopes up' after months of marketing hype, misleading reviews and analysis etc.
     
    That's the feeling most people around here had for the FTW3 that 'decent' clocks would be within reach.
     
    You live and you learn I guess.


     
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 09:00:17 (permalink)
    I don't want to throw accusations out there but it's definitely a possibility. I'm sure somebody will correct me.
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 09:01:34 (permalink)

    OK, but correct me if I am wrong, is the FTW3 not marketed as a top tier card in the EVGA line up? With all that extra power delivery and additional fan control you would think it was intended to be overclocked just a bit further than your standard 1080 Ti.

    Point taken, but I do not trust the modern Precision software in any way. The most important part is testing whether the card is working correctly with a basic supporting operating system and drivers. Past that, problems can crop up in many places and it is hard to blame the card this early in this poduct's life.

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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 09:17:09 (permalink)
    I have only started overclocking recently. I was able to get a stable system with 113%,+60,+100. I have not tried to OC my memory anymore because +60 was only a 1.3% improvement of Superposition score. Like the pro said above, if your system is stable at 100%,+0,+0 then it is good enough. Remember this card is already OC out of the box compared to FE.
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 09:28:59 (permalink)
    timmyboy04
    Also, take others results with a grain of salt. Some people posting their results are, many times:

    Not stable
    Embellishing their results
    The minority because they actually got high overclocks (who's gonna post their crappy scores?)
    Posting higher offsets but may actually be getting lower clocks in the end because that's what offset is.
    YouTubers who got pre-approved cards that are able to hit high numbers.

    I see where your coming from but you should still feel good about your purchase imo.
     
    Edit: Extra power phases do typically mean higher overclocks. I can't explain that without knowing what you are actually boosting your card to.




    For all the hate directed towards the FE card I was stable at 2063-2076mhz on the core with the air cooler and have achieved the same numbers with the hybrid cooler.
     
    Whenever I get time to play around with the voltage curve I expect to crack 2100.
     
    Not too shabby for the "worst" card in the lineup.
     
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 09:51:38 (permalink)
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    timmyboy04
    Also, take others results with a grain of salt. Some people posting their results are, many times:

    Not stable
    Embellishing their results
    The minority because they actually got high overclocks (who's gonna post their crappy scores?)
    Posting higher offsets but may actually be getting lower clocks in the end because that's what offset is.
    YouTubers who got pre-approved cards that are able to hit high numbers.

    I see where your coming from but you should still feel good about your purchase imo.
     
    Edit: Extra power phases do typically mean higher overclocks. I can't explain that without knowing what you are actually boosting your card to.




    For all the hate directed towards the FE card I was stable at 2063-2076mhz on the core with the air cooler and have achieved the same numbers with the hybrid cooler.
     
    Whenever I get time to play around with the voltage curve I expect to crack 2100.
     
    Not too shabby for the "worst" card in the lineup.
     




    That is great! I was not trying to direct hate. I was trying to clarify the reason why it is hard to OC FTW3. +50 gpu on FTW3 is different from + 50 on FE. 
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 09:59:12 (permalink)
    Got the same issue but more complicated. Had to download my card to make sure it wont hit the 2ghz via gpu boost. Else it will crash. I already opened an erma.

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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 10:03:19 (permalink)
    Nervoize
    Got the same issue but more complicated. Had to download my card to make sure it wont hit the 2ghz via gpu boost. Else it will crash. I already opened an erma.

    You mean down-clock lol?


     
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 10:04:59 (permalink)
    MW1_kING
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    Got the same issue but more complicated. Had to download my card to make sure it wont hit the 2ghz via gpu boost. Else it will crash. I already opened an erma.

    You mean down-clock lol?


    Yeah hahaha whoops XD

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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 10:46:40 (permalink)
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    For all the hate directed towards the FE card I was stable at 2063-2076mhz on the core with the air cooler and have achieved the same numbers with the hybrid cooler.
     
    Whenever I get time to play around with the voltage curve I expect to crack 2100.
     
    Not too shabby for the "worst" card in the lineup.
     




    That is great! I was not trying to direct hate. I was trying to clarify the reason why it is hard to OC FTW3. +50 gpu on FTW3 is different from + 50 on FE. 




    Nah it's cool... hate probably should haven't been the word, it should have been "complaints" because I've seen a lot about the FE card but mine at least has performed very well with both air cooling and underwater.
     
    FTW would have been the card I went after... 3 fans looks pretty sick but unfortunately I fell in love with liquid cooling.  LOL
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 10:54:05 (permalink)
    TRClark911
    timmyboy04
    Also, take others results with a grain of salt. Some people posting their results are, many times:

    Not stable
    Embellishing their results
    The minority because they actually got high overclocks (who's gonna post their crappy scores?)
    Posting higher offsets but may actually be getting lower clocks in the end because that's what offset is.
    YouTubers who got pre-approved cards that are able to hit high numbers.

    I see where your coming from but you should still feel good about your purchase imo.
     
    Edit: Extra power phases do typically mean higher overclocks. I can't explain that without knowing what you are actually boosting your card to.




    For all the hate directed towards the FE card I was stable at 2063-2076mhz on the core with the air cooler and have achieved the same numbers with the hybrid cooler.
     
    Whenever I get time to play around with the voltage curve I expect to crack 2100.
     
    Not too shabby for the "worst" card in the lineup.
     




    Allot of people are still hung up on old tech.  They don't seem to know about gpu boost 3.0 or just don't understand how it works.  Some also think chips are are still pre-binned.  It's all uninformed shopping expecting what they got when they bought a upgraded card a few generations ago.   The FE card has the same potential of anything you get.  A FE could overclock better than any FTW3 ect..   If anything all these fancy coolers and power phases could get a chip that potentially couldnt be stable on a FE board with a FE cooler stable within the companies advertised clocks.  Just my two cents.

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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 11:24:13 (permalink)
    talkischeap
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    For all the hate directed towards the FE card I was stable at 2063-2076mhz on the core with the air cooler and have achieved the same numbers with the hybrid cooler.
     
    Whenever I get time to play around with the voltage curve I expect to crack 2100.
     
    Not too shabby for the "worst" card in the lineup.
     




    Allot of people are still hung up on old tech.  They don't seem to know about gpu boost 3.0 or just don't understand how it works.  Some also think chips are are still pre-binned.  It's all uninformed shopping expecting what they got when they bought a upgraded card a few generations ago.   The FE card has the same potential of anything you get.  A FE could overclock better than any FTW3 ect..   If anything all these fancy coolers and power phases could get a chip that potentially couldnt be stable on a FE board with a FE cooler stable within the companies advertised clocks.  Just my two cents.





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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/12 12:01:02 (permalink)
    What are the rest of your specs? A 650 watt psu is like the bare minimum for a 1080ti. Depending on what else you have in your system, you might be pretty close to the max your psu can handle. Try a power supply recommendation tool like what evga has on their site and enter all your hardware in there and see what it spits out.

     
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/21 23:14:04 (permalink)
    Hello and thank you all of the answers above. Sorry for the late reply.
     
    Just got my new card from RMA and it works great; base clock is 100 hmz higher than the last one, which is very confusing (~1950mhz vs ~1850mhz all without overclocking, out of stock)
    Overall all, the new card can be easily overclocked to 2038 mhz with 117% power limit, running at stable 2000 mhz when gaming.
    I have to say EVGA really has the best customer service among the major brands and this forum is really good too.
     
    ps. I'm in Taiwan.
     
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/22 18:49:31 (permalink)
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    Hello and thank you all of the answers above. Sorry for the late reply.
     
    Just got my new card from RMA and it works great; base clock is 100 hmz higher than the last one, which is very confusing (~1950mhz vs ~1850mhz all without overclocking, out of stock)
    Overall all, the new card can be easily overclocked to 2038 mhz with 117% power limit, running at stable 2000 mhz when gaming.
    I have to say EVGA really has the best customer service among the major brands and this forum is really good too.
     
    ps. I'm in Taiwan.
     


    Glad to hear your new card is working well. 
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2017/05/23 06:03:25 (permalink)
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    Hello and thank you all of the answers above. Sorry for the late reply.
     
    Just got my new card from RMA and it works great; base clock is 100 hmz higher than the last one, which is very confusing (~1950mhz vs ~1850mhz all without overclocking, out of stock)
    Overall all, the new card can be easily overclocked to 2038 mhz with 117% power limit, running at stable 2000 mhz when gaming.
    I have to say EVGA really has the best customer service among the major brands and this forum is really good too.
     
    ps. I'm in Taiwan.
     



    That is more in line with what I would expect from the card.
    Enjoy!



     
     
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2019/01/19 05:34:11 (permalink)
    How long were you out of a card during the rma process?
     
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    Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 instant crash when increasing power limit 2019/01/19 06:49:15 (permalink)
    GeorgyonIce  - you realize this thread is almost 2 years old  ??? 
     


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