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1080 TI FE Displayport Question?

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2017/04/25 18:02:13 (permalink)
When I have my monitor (Asus PQ279Q) plugged into the primary display port (B) when booting my resolution is 640x640 (Guessing) until I get to the desktop where it is now 2560 x 1440, when I update my video driver using DDU bios screen and desktop is 640 x 640 (?) until driver is installed then I'm back to 2560 x 1440 again.  Now when I plug my monitor into port (D) closest to the motherboard the bios screen and desktop are always at 2560 x 1440 no matter if it's the Nvidia driver or windows basic graphics driver so is this normal behavior?
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    TRClark911
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/04/26 08:58:38 (permalink)
    Not sure if this will help you but I also have an Asus monitor and when I first set it up I was having similar resolution issues.  There was a monitor setting that I had to choose that let the monitor know (???) that I was using Display port version 1.4... once I did that I got my full 4k resolution.
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/04/26 09:08:58 (permalink)
    I'm not much help, but it sounds like there is a priority display port. At least it gives you the native resolution, when it is done playing around. 
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/04/26 09:10:34 (permalink)
    Something I noticed today after running DDU to install the current drivers.
    It removes your Monitor Driver from Device Manager and put back on the Default PNP Monitor.
    To add your monitor back you have to run DDU in Normal Mode and set the Windows Drivers Back to Auto and then Re-Start your Computer.
    Go to Device Manager and Right Click on the Default PNP Monitor and Click Update Driver Software, you do need to be connected to the Internet for this to work.
     
    Primary Port Order / Priority Order (GTX 1080 Ti FE Only)
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/04/26 16:33:40 (permalink)
    Thanks for the replies!  I checked device manager and for the monitor it was using the windows generic PNP driver (both for port B & D) so I downloaded the monitor driver from Asus and installed but it still has the same behavior as before. Since I am only running a single monitor I will probably just continue to use port D since this gives me native resolution (2560 x 1440) no matter what, would this cause any performance issues?  Thanks again!  
     
    My specs if it matters:
    I7 7700K @ 4.8ghz
    Asus ROG Maximus IX Hero
    32 GB DDR4 3200 Corsair Ram
    EVGA 1080 TI FE
    Samsung 960 Pro 1TB NVMe
    Asus PG279Q
     
    post edited by Witz762 - 2017/04/26 16:36:04
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/04/26 17:29:47 (permalink)
    Are you saying that Port B (Primary DP Port) is not working at all?
    Did you reset the Monitor after you changed cards?
    http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/LCD%20Monitors/PG279/PG279Q_English.pdf
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/04/26 18:30:04 (permalink)
    Yes ports are working, here is the break down:
     
    Port B = during boot bios load screen is not native resolution and then at desktop screen is at native resolution using windows PNP driver or Asus driver.
    Port D = during boot bios load screen is native resolution and then desktop is also at native resolution using windows PNP or Asus driver.
     
    Hope that makes sense, also when you say "reset the monitor" do you mean reset back to default settings? 
    I have rebooted the monitor like when changing screen refresh rates in the monitor screen menu (not NV control panel) but that had no affect.
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/04/26 19:15:57 (permalink)
    This is how it works on my pascal titan x on both ports...
     
    Bios screen always runs at native.
    Post screen always runs at native.
    Desktop runs at lower resolution after uninstalling driver with ddu & rebooting pc.
    Desktop runs at native once again after nvidia driver is installed & pc is rebooted.
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/04/27 11:55:34 (permalink)
    Before starting a legenthy post; if you have any other monitors connected, does disconnecting them fix it? Both port B and D should give you native boot resolution.

    Assuming you're not running with CSM enabled (BIOS compatiability mode) then the boot resolution on NVIDIA cards should be the native resolution of your monitor. -- More specifically the boot resolution should be the first detailed timing listed in the monitors EDID chip.

    The vBIOS will dump the EDID during startup (before anything is displayed), the UEFI will then load the EFI GOP module from the video cards ROM, the GOP module checks the timings and will try to negotiate a mode switch to the first detailed timing. - Assuming the UEFI supports that timing (resolution) of course.

    I've seen some UEFI's that only run in 1024x768, 1080p, some scaled/stretched resolution or even only run in native res using the iGPU. I've also sees some NV GOP modules that are hard limited to 1080p max or won't even display anything on HDMI 2.0 (had a fun conversation with NV techs about the HDMI 2.0 one >_>).

    I would try a different port (on the screen itself - each port has its own EDID), update your UEFI, update your vBIOS, update your screens firmware (if available) and make sure the CSM is off. You could also try disabling your iGPU and making sure that monitor is only connected with one cable.

    As a last resort you could remove the card, reset your UEFI to defaults and then put the card back in.

    Side Notes: Windows display drivers have nothing to do with GOP video modes. That can be the UEFI, the Windows boot animation or whatever. So there's no reason to mess about with display drivers. There is also no reason to install monitor INF's as unless ASUS messed up the EDID (and needs a EDID override) then the PNP monitor driver is perfectly fine.
    post edited by Quad5Ny - 2017/04/27 13:17:03
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/04/27 16:13:49 (permalink)
    is the cable in all the way?
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/04/27 16:55:52 (permalink)
    Poofu1
    is the cable in all the way?


    Aye, that could be it, happened to me with my regular 1080 of another brand.
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/04/28 11:02:03 (permalink)
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    This is how it works on my pascal titan x on both ports...
     
    Bios screen always runs at native.
    Post screen always runs at native.
    Desktop runs at lower resolution after uninstalling driver with ddu & rebooting pc.
    Desktop runs at native once again after nvidia driver is installed & pc is rebooted.




    Same here.  Pretty much every machine I've ever owned.
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/05/02 18:32:17 (permalink)
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    Before starting a legenthy post; if you have any other monitors connected, does disconnecting them fix it? Both port B and D should give you native boot resolution.

    Assuming you're not running with CSM enabled (BIOS compatiability mode) then the boot resolution on NVIDIA cards should be the native resolution of your monitor. -- More specifically the boot resolution should be the first detailed timing listed in the monitors EDID chip.

    The vBIOS will dump the EDID during startup (before anything is displayed), the UEFI will then load the EFI GOP module from the video cards ROM, the GOP module checks the timings and will try to negotiate a mode switch to the first detailed timing. - Assuming the UEFI supports that timing (resolution) of course.

    I've seen some UEFI's that only run in 1024x768, 1080p, some scaled/stretched resolution or even only run in native res using the iGPU. I've also sees some NV GOP modules that are hard limited to 1080p max or won't even display anything on HDMI 2.0 (had a fun conversation with NV techs about the HDMI 2.0 one >_>).

    I would try a different port (on the screen itself - each port has its own EDID), update your UEFI, update your vBIOS, update your screens firmware (if available) and make sure the CSM is off. You could also try disabling your iGPU and making sure that monitor is only connected with one cable.

    As a last resort you could remove the card, reset your UEFI to defaults and then put the card back in.

    Side Notes: Windows display drivers have nothing to do with GOP video modes. That can be the UEFI, the Windows boot animation or whatever. So there's no reason to mess about with display drivers. There is also no reason to install monitor INF's as unless ASUS messed up the EDID (and needs a EDID override) then the PNP monitor driver is perfectly fine.

    Disabling CSM in bios solved my issue and now behaves as posted above by Sajin.  Thanks to everyone for helping out!
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    Re: 1080 TI FE Displayport Question? 2017/05/02 19:07:27 (permalink)

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