DutchForce
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On April 19th, GPU Project 11431 is released to Advanced, I'm using the advanced flag and got 6 WUs so far. I noticed that the PPD varies a lot and it looks like it depends on the Run numbers (just like we see with All P91xx WUs , which PPD can vary ~30% between the Run numbers of the same projects). So far P11431 varies from -5% to +25% of the average PPD of my GTX 980Ti and 1070 (Run 3 and 10 are a little lower PPD and Run 4 is the highest PPD so far).
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/04/20 11:50:04
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/15 13:51:31
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DutchForce
On April 19th, GPU Project 11431 is released to Advanced, I'm using the advanced flag and got 6 WUs so far. I noticed that the PPD varies a lot and it looks like it depends on the Run numbers (just like we see with All P91xx WUs , which PPD can vary ~30% between the Run numbers of the same projects).
So far P11431 varies from -5% to +25% of the average PPD of my GTX 980Ti and 1070 (Run 3 and 10 are a little lower PPD and Run 4 is the highest PPD so far).
I picked one up while at work, almost 416k ppd on my GTX970 FTW for run 7 on driver 373.06. Normally average around 340k - 360k ppd with this card. Project ID: 11431 Core: OPENMM_21 Credit: 17805 Frames: 100 Number of Frames Observed: 100 Min. Time / Frame : 00:03:26 - 418,834.3 PPD Avg. Time / Frame : 00:03:27 - 415,803.2 PPD
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/15 15:38:32
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I don't have the advanced flag set. What are the benefits of advanced projects?
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/15 16:23:27
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Not getting WUs that run badly or poorly on the Pascal Platform. If you review some Threads under Folding@EVGA for more info.
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/15 19:13:38
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i have received 44 work units with project ID 11431 and i have a low of 632k, high of 861k, avg 749k, median 718k.
these are all on 1070's
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/15 19:56:57
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That's pretty good output Chris. It would be nice if there was a happy medium for each project.
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/15 20:38:21
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That's pretty good output Chris. I would be nice if there was a happy medium for each project.
Here is a doc i just made that has my history of ~750 units. it shows the ID, Time per Frame, PPD, and Credit as well as the total number of completed units for that ID and their associated averages.
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/19 13:53:15
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Picked up another one, this time it was Run 2 for over 100,000 ppd DROP in production despite overclocking my GPU an extra 25Mhz  
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/19 13:58:44
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My HFM.NET 0.9.8.615 is also seeing a lot of Project Credit Changes and they are going down by a 500 to a 1000.
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/19 15:31:24
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My HFM.NET 0.9.8.615 is also seeing a lot of Project Credit Changes and they are going down by a 500 to a 1000.
That's not the issue, it's as OP stated, this project varies widely. Just check the frame times (I verified accuracy against the logs for both WU's) 3m 27s per frame for 11431 Run 7 vs 4m 10s per frame for 11431 Run 2. The spreadsheet Chris21010 posted shows a variance of between 2m 7s & 2m 36s on his 1070 FTW for project 11431 with a large group over 2m 30s & a large group under 2m 10s. Between his fastest 11431 & slowest 11431, there is almost a 230,000 ppd drop 
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/19 15:52:58
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My HFM.NET 0.9.8.615 is also seeing a lot of Project Credit Changes and they are going down by a 500 to a 1000.
That's not the issue, it's as OP stated, this project varies widely. Just check the frame times (I verified accuracy against the logs for both WU's) 3m 27s per frame for 11431 Run 7 vs 4m 10s per frame for 11431 Run 2. The spreadsheet Chris21010 posted shows a variance of between 2m 7s & 2m 36s on his 1070 FTW for project 11431 with a large group over 2m 30s & a large group under 2m 10s. Between his fastest 11431 & slowest 11431, there is almost a 230,000 ppd drop
I did not say it was. Only that this Project Number 11431 on my HFM.NET is showing Credit Changes and they are Going Down In (Base) Credit was all. Also no Project runs the same and has the Same Ending Credits or Points.
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/20 14:06:56
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My HFM.NET 0.9.8.615 is also seeing a lot of Project Credit Changes and they are going down by a 500 to a 1000.
That's not the issue, it's as OP stated, this project varies widely. Just check the frame times (I verified accuracy against the logs for both WU's) 3m 27s per frame for 11431 Run 7 vs 4m 10s per frame for 11431 Run 2. The spreadsheet Chris21010 posted shows a variance of between 2m 7s & 2m 36s on his 1070 FTW for project 11431 with a large group over 2m 30s & a large group under 2m 10s. Between his fastest 11431 & slowest 11431, there is almost a 230,000 ppd drop
I did not say it was.
Only that this Project Number 11431 on my HFM.NET is showing Credit Changes and they are Going Down In Credit was all.
Also no Project runs the same and has the Same Ending Credits or Points.
Okay, hadn't noticed a drop in credit. A 25% swing in ppd for the same work unit is kind of crazy when the computer is only being used for folding. There will always be small differences in credit / ppd, but this is the kind of differences I usually see for most work units:  Less than 3% variance.
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/20 14:30:17
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P10496? P11431 My HFM only has a little over 7000 records and I think that having client-type set to advanced is keeping P11431 at bay.  SM-71 How often do you update Projects in HFM?  
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/21 05:40:27
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P10496?
Just used as an example of consistency I typically see from about 60 - 70 % of the different work units my GPU has completed. Thus the statement "this is the kind of differences I usually see for most work units:" bcavnaugh
SM-71 How often do you update Projects in HFM? Monthly
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/21 11:50:03
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P10496?
Just used as an example of consistency I typically see from about 60 - 70 % of the different work units my GPU has completed. Thus the statement "this is the kind of differences I usually see for most work units:"
bcavnaugh
SM-71 How often do you update Projects in HFM?
Monthly
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Re: New GPU Project 11431 PPD varies a lot.
2017/05/25 12:37:55
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I have noticed over the last few days that most of the P114xx Projects use more CPU Cycles or Resources than other Projects.
Has anyone noticed this as well?
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