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x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem?

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2017/04/15 16:02:44 (permalink)
I noticed that I seem to be able to clock fairly well for the voltage (4.2Ghz at +100mv offset all other stock) but only if I drop the RING ratio down below what auto sets it to. is this normal? It seems that even adding a bunch of voltage doesn't help me get a much of anything on my core multiplier, but dropping the RING ratio down does seem to help. Should I just leave that at auto and just take whatever clocks I can get with it there, or is dropping it down useful/normal/odd that it would help?
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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/04/15 16:06:35 (permalink)
    well what settings is your memory running currently? Try setting memory back to auto/default and see if you experience instability with ring ratio at default.
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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/04/15 16:12:23 (permalink)
    I'm using the XMP profile of 2666 mhz, but I'll change it back to default and see if that helps, thanks.
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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/04/17 00:32:17 (permalink)
    didn't seem to help, going to go back to square one and inch up the OC one step at a time starting from stock. the RING ratio would auto to x36 or 3600 mhz at my 4.2 OC, which seemed to be too high.
     
    I was also wondering, what stress testing program does everyone recommend for the x99 and 5930k? Right now I'm using Realbench and OCCT.
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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/04/17 08:17:31 (permalink)
    I did a 5 run test with Intel Burn test on very high settings.  Then ran Aida's stress test for an hour.  Haven't had any stability issue's using that method.
     
    BTW, no issue here with any of my OC's leaving the Ring ratio on auto all the way up to 4.6GHz that I use when running benchmarks.
     
    EDIT:  It sounds like you may have a weak IMC if you need to lower the Ring ratio for stability.  But from what I've read,  a little lower Ring ratio won't affect performance much vs a higher clock speed.
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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/05/01 12:52:46 (permalink)
    an update: I think I've been using the secondary 8-pin CPU power connection, instead of the primary (I'm only using one cable for it atm) could that cause problems? going to try testing it again now that I've switched it.
     
    edit: no change, my have to accept that I just have a CPU that doesn't want to OC.
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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/05/01 13:54:23 (permalink)
    on mine I am using both CPU cables. I just set the voltage to something i know is safe and change the multiplier to my target and test for stability then reduce the voltage as low as i can until it becomes unstable then bump it back up. I cannot get mine passed 4.5 stable with any XMP or increased speed on the RAM.  
     
     

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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/05/02 00:28:18 (permalink)
    Now it seems to be locking up (screen freeze) when the CPU is at or near 100% load, and that's at stock speeds with auto settings for the ram (2667mhz ram running under-clocked at 2133) Seems like the processor itself is dying/bad, and not some setting that I need to adjust to even get a mild OC, if it's doing the same thing at stock speeds (though it does it sooner if slightly OCed)
    also tried to use the Intel Processor Identification utility, and that gave me an error message after I got it to work (froze the computer the first time and used 100% CPU load)
     
    May just have to get a new CPU soon.
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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/05/02 00:57:16 (permalink)
    You should check processor with Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool.
    If she fail Intel will RMA your processor.
    I nicely shake my processor to confirm stability after OC, through all known stress tests except Prime95, LinX and OCCT.
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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/05/02 01:47:29 (permalink)
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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/05/02 01:54:25 (permalink)
    the Intel processor diagnostic tool passed on every test, not sure what else to do then.
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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/05/02 06:01:43 (permalink)
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    I noticed that I seem to be able to clock fairly well for the voltage (4.2Ghz at +100mv offset all other stock) but only if I drop the RING ratio down below what auto sets it to. is this normal? It seems that even adding a bunch of voltage doesn't help me get a much of anything on my core multiplier, but dropping the RING ratio down does seem to help. Should I just leave that at auto and just take whatever clocks I can get with it there, or is dropping it down useful/normal/odd that it would help?


    Not normal. What does auto set the ring ratio to? I'm currently running a ring ratio of 1.1v on my 4.4GHz overclock on my 5960x.
     
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    Now it seems to be locking up (screen freeze) when the CPU is at or near 100% load, and that's at stock speeds with auto settings for the ram (2667mhz ram running under-clocked at 2133) Seems like the processor itself is dying/bad, and not some setting that I need to adjust to even get a mild OC, if it's doing the same thing at stock speeds (though it does it sooner if slightly OCed)
    also tried to use the Intel Processor Identification utility, and that gave me an error message after I got it to work (froze the computer the first time and used 100% CPU load)
     
    May just have to get a new CPU soon.


    Have you gotten any blue screens? If yes, what are the bug check codes for the blue screens? Have you checked your ram for errors with memtest86?
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    Re: x99 Classifed and 5930k OCing, should the RING ratio a problem? 2017/05/02 06:54:46 (permalink)
    I don't get bluescreens, just hard lock ups/screen freezes, and I've done an in windows memory test, and didn't have any errors show up, I can try memtest86 and boot off that.
     
    As for the ring ratio, I'm not sure on the voltage, just the multiplier goes up to I think around x38 when I tried clocking the CPU to 4.2 ghz
     
    I could check again, but given that it seems to becoming less and less stable over time, I'm not sure I want to OC it again to see what the ring ratio voltage is set too when not at stock speed.
     
     
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