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Hey everybody So, I think I'm going to dive in to a custom loop on my EVGA 1080ti and i7 6700k. I'm just starting with ideas and wanted some input on what you all recommend as far as brands go and how to start the parts picking. EKWB has a building tool on their site but I'm not sure I like it since it doesn't allow for a ton of customization,,,it kind of asks general questions and picks it for you. Not the route I want to go. So, where should I start? From personal experience, what can I learn from your mistakes? Price is important but I know quality trumps all. I have all my own fans. Finally, I took some pictures of what I want to do but not sure if I can fit what I want to fit in my existing case. I have an Corsair Air 540 and would like the res visible if possible. I have 12.7cm of height that I can put the res or res/pump combo. Anybody have a suggestion of a short combo that would fit? Or should I hide it and go for performance and better cooling capability with a full sized in the back of the case (plenty of room if your familiar with the Air 540. Here are some images with my ideas: http://imgur.com/a/pjp3A I need to make a sig but here are my specs for now: Corsair Air 540 i7 6700k OC'd to 4.4ghz H110i 280mm cooler Asus Z170 Tuf Mark 1 16gb Corsair Dominator 3000mhz (running at 2800mhz) EVGA 980ti SC running at +120 GPU clock and +100 Mem clock ASUS Xonar Essence STX Sound card 2 WD Black HDD 1x 750gb and 1x 1.5tb 1 850 EVO SSD 1 Samsung 512gb 950 M.2 NVME (Storage) 1 Samsung 512gb 960 Pro NVME (Win 10 Home x64) Acer XG270HU ‑ 27" 144hz 1440p monitor (Freesync cause Im not paying that premium for Gsync) Corsair K70 Logitech G303 Corsair HX1000i PSU Corsair custom sleeved cables White 6 Noctua Redux fans throughout
Corsair Air 540 i7 6700k OC'd to 4.4ghz H110i 280mm cooler Asus Z170 Tuf Mark 1 16gb Corsair Dominator 3000mhz (running at 2800mhz) EVGA 980ti SC running at +120 GPU clock and +100 Mem clock ASUS Xonar Essence STX Sound card 2 WD Black HDD 1x 750gb and 1x 1.5tb 1 850 EVO SSD 1 Samsung 512gb 950 M.2 NVME (Storage) 1 Samsung 512gb 960 Pro NVME (Win 10 Home x64) Acer XG270HU ‑ 27" 144hz 1440p monitor Corsair K70 Logitech G303 Corsair HX1000i PSU Corsair custom sleeved cables White 6 Noctua Redux fans throughout
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/06 17:40:05
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I really do not think you can put in a Custom Water Loop in that Case. Click on Image Twice for a Lager View. A Hybrid Water AIO Cooler Maybe.
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/06 17:53:11
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Why not? I plan on eliminating the bottom right HDD and there is room for a thin rad for intake. Genuinely curious, aside from space. I KNOW it will be a tight fit. Although, I love the case and would like to avoid changing it unless I have to. If so, I will go a different route. My main concern is the height limitations of the rad/pump. I fear it may be too small and will have an effect on proper cooling.
Corsair Air 540 i7 6700k OC'd to 4.4ghz H110i 280mm cooler Asus Z170 Tuf Mark 1 16gb Corsair Dominator 3000mhz (running at 2800mhz) EVGA 980ti SC running at +120 GPU clock and +100 Mem clock ASUS Xonar Essence STX Sound card 2 WD Black HDD 1x 750gb and 1x 1.5tb 1 850 EVO SSD 1 Samsung 512gb 950 M.2 NVME (Storage) 1 Samsung 512gb 960 Pro NVME (Win 10 Home x64) Acer XG270HU ‑ 27" 144hz 1440p monitor Corsair K70 Logitech G303 Corsair HX1000i PSU Corsair custom sleeved cables White 6 Noctua Redux fans throughout
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/06 18:39:25
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bcavnaugh The case is call the "Corsair Air 540" but maybe. Seeing this may help http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-air-540-high-airflow-atx-cube-case a good Video that talks about Water Cooling. For the Water Pump and Reservoir the other side looks like a good place.
The guy literally said it's possible, and intended, to do exactly what I'm proposing to do in my case. I've had the case for a little over a year so I'm pretty familiar with it. On to my other inquiries, anybody have any input for where to start picking parts? Fittings, blocks, rads, pumps?
Corsair Air 540 i7 6700k OC'd to 4.4ghz H110i 280mm cooler Asus Z170 Tuf Mark 1 16gb Corsair Dominator 3000mhz (running at 2800mhz) EVGA 980ti SC running at +120 GPU clock and +100 Mem clock ASUS Xonar Essence STX Sound card 2 WD Black HDD 1x 750gb and 1x 1.5tb 1 850 EVO SSD 1 Samsung 512gb 950 M.2 NVME (Storage) 1 Samsung 512gb 960 Pro NVME (Win 10 Home x64) Acer XG270HU ‑ 27" 144hz 1440p monitor Corsair K70 Logitech G303 Corsair HX1000i PSU Corsair custom sleeved cables White 6 Noctua Redux fans throughout
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/06 19:03:47
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Corsair Air 540 i7 6700k OC'd to 4.4ghz H110i 280mm cooler Asus Z170 Tuf Mark 1 16gb Corsair Dominator 3000mhz (running at 2800mhz) EVGA 980ti SC running at +120 GPU clock and +100 Mem clock ASUS Xonar Essence STX Sound card 2 WD Black HDD 1x 750gb and 1x 1.5tb 1 850 EVO SSD 1 Samsung 512gb 950 M.2 NVME (Storage) 1 Samsung 512gb 960 Pro NVME (Win 10 Home x64) Acer XG270HU ‑ 27" 144hz 1440p monitor Corsair K70 Logitech G303 Corsair HX1000i PSU Corsair custom sleeved cables White 6 Noctua Redux fans throughout
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/06 22:08:17
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☄ Helpfulby timmyboy04 2017/04/07 07:38:35
Like mentioned performance pcs has mostly everything. Modmymods is another option. I also buy directly from watercool since I like their blocks, reservoirs, and their version of the Ehiem pump. Only buy direct if it's not carried by performance though. Your biggest challenge, fitting the pump/res. Keep your loop as short as possible. Flush everything with distilled water before assembly. I'm not a big fan of colored coolant. I guess they are not bad anymore, but still stain. I recommend distilled water and Primochill Liquid Utopia after running Primochill SysPrep for 24 hours. https://www.primochill.co...tions/prep-and-protectDrain and flush once a year. If you suspect any growth for whatever reason tear your blocks out and open them up. Yes you can go with the silver coil to prevent growth, some swear by it. I prefer additives. Compression fittings are nice but a royal pain in the yea. Dawn dish soap to help put the tubing on the fittings and also around the outside of the tube to help screw on the compression ring. No need to wire everything till after you have leak tested. Buy a PSU jumper and use that to power your pump. Never let your pump run dry. Fill up the res, turn the pump on for a moment, then off. Fill some more and repeat till you can leave it on while you fill. Cycle the pump and gently tilt and rock the case to work some of the air out. You will not get all of the air out, it will work it self out as you leave it on and turn it on and off through use. Once bubbles have stopped coming out and water levels have stopped dropping in the res you may if you wish top off the reservoir. Will need three gallons of distilled water. One to leak test, one for the SysPrep, last for the Utopia. This is of course if you don't go with premixed coolant. Otherwise just the one gallon for leak testing. I personally leak test with with SysPrep, and leave it for the 24 hours to sanatize the loop. If you are going to have a leak, you should notice within the first couple hours. *Install a drain!* You have no idea how much easier that makes things. Picture of my drain. Basically it's just a ball valve off of a T block and a 90° fitting. With this you screw in a fitting with some tubing, open the valve, open the reservoir fill plug and let gravity do the rest. If you decide not to do a drain, well have fun. I'll just leave you to your draining misery while you try and not get water everywhere. Any questions shoot me a PM, I'll be happy to help. I've made plenty of mistakes and spent more than I want to know on this stuff. My build log. https://forums.evga.com/T.-Anticolor-m2623740.aspx
post edited by loveha - 2017/04/06 22:57:27
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/07 09:28:20
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Thank you very much for the tips. I will go with white coolant just for asthetics. I plan on taking my time with this so I might shoot you some PM's along the way.
With the 2 rads and blocks will one pump be enough pressure? What should I look for in specs? Also does tubing diameter make a difference?
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/07 19:54:42
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/07 20:02:28
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loveha One pump will do it just fine. Something like this. I know you are short on space, in a literal sense. So maybe something like this. http://www.performance-pc...-mx-pwm-incl-pump.html
Tubing diameter is something I have never worked with to much. Always gone with 1/2"ID 3/4"OD tubing. I would recomend getting the next size down in tubing. Recomend EK or Primochill clear tubing.
Also would like to suggest the radiators. Hardware Labs makes some of the best on the market. 360 Radiator http://www.performance-pc...ator-black-carbon.html
240 Radiator http://www.performance-pc...ator-black-carbon.html
I was looking at that exact pump and rads. The rads because they are slim and the pump would fit perfectly. Also considering a horizontal pump and relocating both HDDs. Would you recommend a single loop through both the CPU and the GPU and both rads? I guess the only other option would be to do another pump/res, correct?
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/07 20:16:05
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☄ Helpfulby XrayMan 2017/04/09 13:14:57
No need for a dual loop. Waste of money unless you are going for looks. So just one loop. You can run the tubes generally in any direction. The difference in temps will be extremely marginal by only 1-3 degrees. The shorter you keep the loop the better the pump works. Made an edit to my post recommending an even shorter pump.
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/07 20:22:48
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/14 08:06:48
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You could go for pump/res combo to potentially save yourself some space, if that is one of your issues. With some minor modifications and the right gear you can very well fit a loop in there I think. I wouldn't go for a dual loop though as it doesn't add much to performance. Your costs will increase quite a bit though.
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/15 15:27:25
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Timmy, Everything will die or need to get RMA at some point, upgrades will be wanted, water changes are 100% needed. I urge you to spend the extra money and get Quick Release Valves! Koolance has the best valves. https://koolance.com/help...nect-shutoff-couplingsSee my system in mod rigs. In my life I have built many water cooled computers, dont use pre-mixed water. Pre-mixed water is overpriced and leaves a nasty dye stain on everything. Get distilled water (Stop and Shop or Target sells it for 3 bucks a gallon) and a bottle of Biocide. You only needs a few drops per gallon and this too will run you 5-12 bucks. Another thing ive learned is to only use nickel covered copper waterblocks. They last longer, never get nasty, and are just better all around. I have to say though, and this could be because im getting older but pre-made loops are awesome. I like that companies like EK have solutions now that even let you expand. Have fun and feel free to PM me with any questions that don't involve hardline tubes.
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/27 17:35:55
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seth89 Timmy, Everything will die or need to get RMA at some point, upgrades will be wanted, water changes are 100% needed. I urge you to spend the extra money and get Quick Release Valves! Koolance has the best valves.
https://koolance.com/help...nect-shutoff-couplings
See my system in mod rigs.
In my life I have built many water cooled computers, dont use pre-mixed water. Pre-mixed water is overpriced and leaves a nasty dye stain on everything. Get distilled water (Stop and Shop or Target sells it for 3 bucks a gallon) and a bottle of Biocide. You only needs a few drops per gallon and this too will run you 5-12 bucks.
Another thing ive learned is to only use nickel covered copper waterblocks. They last longer, never get nasty, and are just better all around.
I have to say though, and this could be because im getting older but pre-made loops are awesome. I like that companies like EK have solutions now that even let you expand. Have fun and feel free to PM me with any questions that don't involve hardline tubes.
Good advice! I've got a quick release valve right now but have also used this without any complaints. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007N8OAIK
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Re: First true custom loop...need some opinions...
2017/04/27 19:44:27
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Also have a ball valve from bitspower. Used it once so far and it worked flawlessly. Here in a couple weeks going to flush my system a second time that I built about a month ago one last before I don't bother for a year. My last two or three systems, I would fill it and leave it till I HAD to drain because I had no ready way to drain it. Now, if I really wanted to, I wouldn't hesitate to change the coolant every month. Primochill Liquid Utopia on top of shipping would get expensive though lol. Always, always, install a drain at the bottom. That is the ball valve sticking off the 90 from the T. Chunk of tubing with a fitting, screw it on, open the reservoir, open the ball valve, let it drain. May have to tip and rock a little to get residual out of blocks and rads. It won't all come out, but it prevents a mess of you need to pull something.
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