the1320god68
New Member
- Total Posts : 36
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/03/19 08:29:38
- Location: SO Cal.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
I've been looking around the web but haven't really found a way to get around the power limit on the 1080 Ti cards. I see the cards throttle a lot during benching once it reaches 120% as I'm sure all do. Is there a way around this or are we just stuck with it? Cards seen to have way more in them.... Thanks.
|
HeavyHemi
Insert Custom Title Here
- Total Posts : 15665
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/11/28 20:31:42
- Location: Western Washington
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 135
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 09:17:50
(permalink)
the1320god68
I've been looking around the web but haven't really found a way to get around the power limit on the 1080 Ti cards. I see the cards throttle a lot during benching once it reaches 120% as I'm sure all do. Is there a way around this or are we just stuck with it? Cards seen to have way more in them.... Thanks.
Without electrically modifying the GPU to think it is drawing less power (ala King Pin and others) we're stuck with it. I'd go even further and say this is likely another small but important change from the Pacal TITAN: Limited power and voltage via the BIOS. As of now, nobody has cracked the cert for the BIOS...so we can't go that route. It can't be 'accidental' that nearly everyone is reporting a 'stable OC' of 2050mhz.....At least that is my impression from reading around the web and the results people are getting on the AIB FE models.
EVGA X99 FTWK / i7 6850K @ 4.5ghz / RTX 3080Ti FTW Ultra / 32GB Corsair LPX 3600mhz / Samsung 850Pro 256GB / Be Quiet BN516 Straight Power 12-1000w 80 Plus Platinum / Window 10 Pro
|
the1320god68
New Member
- Total Posts : 36
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/03/19 08:29:38
- Location: SO Cal.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 09:34:08
(permalink)
Well that's no fun...lol. I did find a video on "how to" overvolt the cards but makes no scene to do as it would just draw MORE power... Sucks as I've got 2 of these under water, and I can only get 2063MHz but with lots of "power limit". I just feel there's way more head room and they made it "safe" which limits us all... 
|
Cool GTX
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 30996
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/12/12 14:22:25
- Location: Folding for the Greater Good
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 122
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 09:38:01
(permalink)
Got to love Nvidia Boost 3.0, its automatic balancing of temps, clocks and wattage
Keeping your card cold as possible is the only way to get the max MHz
Or as HeavyHemi said, you have to make extreme changes to the board - can you say Warranty Void
|
the1320god68
New Member
- Total Posts : 36
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/03/19 08:29:38
- Location: SO Cal.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 10:07:39
(permalink)
Mine don't go above 50C... more around 41-44C while gaming. So yeah I love Nvidia Boost 3.0 lol. Is there any "how to" on what Kingpin or others actually do to there cards?
|
HeavyHemi
Insert Custom Title Here
- Total Posts : 15665
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/11/28 20:31:42
- Location: Western Washington
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 135
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 10:21:34
(permalink)
the1320god68
Mine don't go above 50C... more around 41-44C while gaming. So yeah I love Nvidia Boost 3.0 lol. Is there any "how to" on what Kingpin or others actually do to there cards?
Yes...there is...  http://forum.kingpincooli.../showthread.php?t=3961
EVGA X99 FTWK / i7 6850K @ 4.5ghz / RTX 3080Ti FTW Ultra / 32GB Corsair LPX 3600mhz / Samsung 850Pro 256GB / Be Quiet BN516 Straight Power 12-1000w 80 Plus Platinum / Window 10 Pro
|
Cool GTX
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 30996
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/12/12 14:22:25
- Location: Folding for the Greater Good
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 122
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 10:23:57
(permalink)
|
Nitemare3219
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 797
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/07/12 11:43:14
- Location: Ohio
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 2
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 10:51:36
(permalink)
Cool GTX
Got to love Nvidia Boost 3.0, its automatic balancing of temps, clocks and wattage
Keeping your card cold as possible is the only way to get the max MHz
Or as HeavyHemi said, you have to make extreme changes to the board - can you say Warranty Void
You do not have to make "extreme changes" to the board. Shorting out the top 2 shunt resistors effectively removes ANY power limit throttling you could possibly have under water cooling and is very easy to do. Doing this kind of mod is not going to give you crazy overclocking headroom though... basically none at all, only stabilizes your core clock if you are not exceed temp. threshold, but are hitting power limit threshold.
MSI X570 Tomahawk | Ryzen 5800X | Samsung 980 Pro | 32GB Trident Z Neo | RTX 3090 Obsidian 5000D | SuperNOVA 1000 P2 | 48" C1 4K LG OLED | Naga | G915 TKL | Sennheiser HD 800 S | Grace m9XX
|
Sajin
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 49168
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/06/07 21:11:51
- Location: Texas, USA.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 199
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 11:46:47
(permalink)
Nitemare3219
Cool GTX
Got to love Nvidia Boost 3.0, its automatic balancing of temps, clocks and wattage
Keeping your card cold as possible is the only way to get the max MHz
Or as HeavyHemi said, you have to make extreme changes to the board - can you say Warranty Void
You do not have to make "extreme changes" to the board. Shorting out the top 2 shunt resistors effectively removes ANY power limit throttling you could possibly have under water cooling and is very easy to do. Doing this kind of mod is not going to give you crazy overclocking headroom though... basically none at all, only stabilizes your core clock if you are not exceed temp. threshold, but are hitting power limit threshold.
From the kingpin forums... You can find current shunts which are marked *RS1, RS2, RS3* on PCB with black resistive element in center and often with R002 or R005 or 2M0/5M0 mark on top. Sometimes there are no marks, but look is always very similar, like a large rectangular flat part with two or four wide metal terminals. Usually these shunts are located very close to input power connectors before the main VRM circuitry. If we manage to reduce voltage signal (which is in linear dependance from current) from these shunts, then reported power limit will be reduced as well. Don't do anything with these shunts, just understand what they are for. Common "modifications" like applying liquid metal paste or using pencil are bad idea, as they do not provide reliable and static resistance change. Pascal cards have also protection against under-reporting, meaning that GPU will be stuck in low power state if reported power is zero or around that.
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24581
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 11:52:59
(permalink)
Sajin
Nitemare3219
Cool GTX
Got to love Nvidia Boost 3.0, its automatic balancing of temps, clocks and wattage
Keeping your card cold as possible is the only way to get the max MHz
Or as HeavyHemi said, you have to make extreme changes to the board - can you say Warranty Void
You do not have to make "extreme changes" to the board. Shorting out the top 2 shunt resistors effectively removes ANY power limit throttling you could possibly have under water cooling and is very easy to do. Doing this kind of mod is not going to give you crazy overclocking headroom though... basically none at all, only stabilizes your core clock if you are not exceed temp. threshold, but are hitting power limit threshold.
From the kingpin forums...
You can find current shunts which are marked *RS1, RS2, RS3* on PCB with black resistive element in center and often with R002 or R005 or 2M0/5M0 mark on top. Sometimes there are no marks, but look is always very similar, like a large rectangular flat part with two or four wide metal terminals. Usually these shunts are located very close to input power connectors before the main VRM circuitry. If we manage to reduce voltage signal (which is in linear dependance from current) from these shunts, then reported power limit will be reduced as well. Don't do anything with these shunts, just understand what they are for. Common "modifications" like applying liquid metal paste or using pencil are bad idea, as they do not provide reliable and static resistance change. Pascal cards have also protection against under-reporting, meaning that GPU will be stuck in low power state if reported power is zero or around that.
At least someone read the uncorking guide all the way through and paid attention to this. Glad sajin posted the rebuttal before I came in, because i knew someone would automatically throw this out without reading all the way through, or they would ignore the most important detail.. the one where nvidia out smarted the masses that use to do this.
post edited by Scarlet-Tech - 2017/03/24 11:55:01
|
Cool GTX
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 30996
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/12/12 14:22:25
- Location: Folding for the Greater Good
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 122
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 12:02:21
(permalink)
"extreme changes" = Warranty Void in my book on a new GPU
|
the1320god68
New Member
- Total Posts : 36
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/03/19 08:29:38
- Location: SO Cal.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 15:07:09
(permalink)
Nitemare3219
Cool GTX
Got to love Nvidia Boost 3.0, its automatic balancing of temps, clocks and wattage
Keeping your card cold as possible is the only way to get the max MHz
Or as HeavyHemi said, you have to make extreme changes to the board - can you say Warranty Void
You do not have to make "extreme changes" to the board. Shorting out the top 2 shunt resistors effectively removes ANY power limit throttling you could possibly have under water cooling and is very easy to do. Doing this kind of mod is not going to give you crazy overclocking headroom though... basically none at all, only stabilizes your core clock if you are not exceed temp. threshold, but are hitting power limit threshold.
And that is exactly what is happening to me.... just might have to give it a try. I know one shunt is by the pci power connectors,
post edited by the1320god68 - 2017/03/24 15:10:23
|
HeavyHemi
Insert Custom Title Here
- Total Posts : 15665
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/11/28 20:31:42
- Location: Western Washington
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 135
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 15:22:04
(permalink)
the1320god68
Nitemare3219
Cool GTX
Got to love Nvidia Boost 3.0, its automatic balancing of temps, clocks and wattage
Keeping your card cold as possible is the only way to get the max MHz
Or as HeavyHemi said, you have to make extreme changes to the board - can you say Warranty Void
You do not have to make "extreme changes" to the board. Shorting out the top 2 shunt resistors effectively removes ANY power limit throttling you could possibly have under water cooling and is very easy to do. Doing this kind of mod is not going to give you crazy overclocking headroom though... basically none at all, only stabilizes your core clock if you are not exceed temp. threshold, but are hitting power limit threshold.
And that is exactly what is happening to me.... just might have to give it a try. I know one shunt is by the pci power connectors,
There's a link earlier (which I'm reposting) to the *correct* method of doing this. Simply shorting the shunt resistors, will not work. http://forum.kingpincooli.../showthread.php?t=3961
EVGA X99 FTWK / i7 6850K @ 4.5ghz / RTX 3080Ti FTW Ultra / 32GB Corsair LPX 3600mhz / Samsung 850Pro 256GB / Be Quiet BN516 Straight Power 12-1000w 80 Plus Platinum / Window 10 Pro
|
the1320god68
New Member
- Total Posts : 36
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/03/19 08:29:38
- Location: SO Cal.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 15:57:03
(permalink)
HeavyHemi
the1320god68
Nitemare3219
Cool GTX
Got to love Nvidia Boost 3.0, its automatic balancing of temps, clocks and wattage
Keeping your card cold as possible is the only way to get the max MHz
Or as HeavyHemi said, you have to make extreme changes to the board - can you say Warranty Void
You do not have to make "extreme changes" to the board. Shorting out the top 2 shunt resistors effectively removes ANY power limit throttling you could possibly have under water cooling and is very easy to do. Doing this kind of mod is not going to give you crazy overclocking headroom though... basically none at all, only stabilizes your core clock if you are not exceed temp. threshold, but are hitting power limit threshold.
And that is exactly what is happening to me.... just might have to give it a try. I know one shunt is by the pci power connectors,
There's a link earlier (which I'm reposting) to the *correct* method of doing this. Simply shorting the shunt resistors, will not work.
http://forum.kingpincooli.../showthread.php?t=3961
All that just to get a little more out of your cards..... Nvidia sux lol. Wow.
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24581
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79
Re: Getting around the power draw limit
2017/03/24 15:59:42
(permalink)
the1320god68
HeavyHemi
There's a link earlier (which I'm reposting) to the *correct* method of doing this. Simply shorting the shunt resistors, will not work.
http://forum.kingpincooli.../showthread.php?t=3961
All that just to get a little more out of your cards..... Nvidia sux lol. Wow.
NVidia is getting wise at this point. Last generation they started getting better at locking it down with the bios, and the bios mods were worked around. Now, they hard wired the fixes lol.
|