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The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?!

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2017/03/21 06:26:47 (permalink)
Hello folks, this has been happening to me with my previous setup (750 Ti FTW and 950 SSC) and now it's still happening with my 750 Ti FTW and 1060 3GB.
 
When folding with only the 1060 I'm pulling around 300K, with the 750 only I'm pulling between 70K and 130K, but together my points completely tank to 150K TOTAL.
 
I have 16GB ram and AMD 8350 on M5A97 PCIE 2.0... the only thing I can imagine is my 380W Antec PSU can't keep up.  Any ideas on this, or maybe the 750 and 1060 just don't work well together?
 
-Jason
post edited by maj28 - 2017/03/21 06:35:47

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/21 08:26:13 (permalink)
    the only thing i can think of is driver issues trying to run two difference cards of vastly different performance and multiple generations between them.


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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/21 08:40:09 (permalink)
    85 watts for the 750ti and 120 watts for the 1060 scc, then about 95 watts for the cpu.
     
    http://www.bequiet.com/en/psucalculator/
    using this calculator I get 353 watts,
    estimated 2x fans, 1x sata disk, no overclock

     


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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/21 08:56:20 (permalink)
    oh, just saw you posted 380W psu but if it was a power problem you would see a lot more problems than low ppd.


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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/21 09:06:31 (permalink)
    I will assume you are running win 10. What I had to do to get a 560 to run with a 1060 was remove the 1060 and only install the 560. clean driver install and then remove the 560 and install the 1060 in its place, then install the 560 in again after drivers installed and recognized the 1060. Basically it's a PITA


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/21 13:19:05 (permalink)
    howdy2u2
    I will assume you are running win 10. What I had to do to get a 560 to run with a 1060 was remove the 1060 and only install the 560. clean driver install and then remove the 560 and install the 1060 in its place, then install the 560 in again after drivers installed and recognized the 1060. Basically it's a PITA

     
    I'm running W7 with 376.33.

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/21 13:35:17 (permalink)
    Are you Folding on one and not the Other?

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/21 13:42:00 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    Are you Folding on one and not the Other?




    Right now I'm stuck folding solo on the 1060, since using both kills the performance.

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/21 15:30:19 (permalink)
    I had this happen before.  it is an old known bug in folding when you use 2 different cards of different generations/platforms.  There is not much you can do to fix it as it's a rare bug, and it's a PITA to troubleshoot.

     

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/21 15:35:28 (permalink)
    Ranmacanada
    I had this happen before.  it is an old known bug in folding when you use 2 different cards of different generations/platforms.  There is not much you can do to fix it as it's a rare bug, and it's a PITA to troubleshoot.


    And also when one likes a very old driver and the other a newer one.

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/21 15:52:13 (permalink)
    I used the catch all 373.06 driver to get mine to work, although I was running win 10. Since win10 updates your drivers whether you want to or not it probably wont work now. Since the OP is running win7 it could be worth a try to roll back drivers unless they need the ones they are running currently.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/22 07:18:00 (permalink)
    howdy2u2
    I used the catch all 373.06 driver to get mine to work, although I was running win 10. Since win10 updates your drivers whether you want to or not it probably wont work now. Since the OP is running win7 it could be worth a try to roll back drivers unless they need the ones they are running currently.




     
    That driver is W10 only, but I'm trying some older drivers that come up as supposedly good for the 750 and the 1060.
     
    For future reference I'll develop some references here, will edit post after I let it run a little.
     
    Driver - 1060 PPD - 750 Ti PPD
    375.70 - 93K - 32K
    375.95 - Worse....moved to next.
    378.92 - No difference, will just run 1060 solo for the time being.
     
    -Jason
     
     
    post edited by maj28 - 2017/03/22 13:23:03

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/22 19:34:42 (permalink)
    There is no  fix the 700's and newer cards will not play nice with each other well folding . there is a temp. fix but did not last very long . Here is the post where I went though same thing .
    https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2566898
    Both cards will fold just fine but fha client just has them back words makes the 770 look good at 500k ppd or more the 1070 not so good at a 100k .
    here is a post over at FHA https://foldingforum.org/...c.php?f=74&t=28275 . In short it works but did not work for long for me . Here is what you do
         <slot id='1' type='GPU'>
        <client-type v='advanced'/>
        <cuda-index v='0'/>
        <gpu-index v='2'/>
        <opencl-index v='0'/>
      </slot>
      <slot id='2' type='GPU'>
        <client-type v='advanced'/>
        <cuda-index v='1'/>
        <gpu-index v='1'/>
        <opencl-index v='1'/>
      </slot>
      <slot id='3' type='GPU'>



     
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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/23 05:10:21 (permalink)
    kerryd
    There is no  fix the 700's and newer cards will not play nice with each other well folding . there is a temp. fix but did not last very long . Here is the post where I went though same thing .
    https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2566898
    Both cards will fold just fine but fha client just has them back words makes the 770 look good at 500k ppd or more the 1070 not so good at a 100k .
    here is a post over at FHA https://foldingforum.org/...c.php?f=74&t=28275 . In short it works but did not work for long for me . Here is what you do
         <slot id='1' type='GPU'>
      <client-type v='advanced'/>
      <cuda-index v='0'/>
      <gpu-index v='2'/>
      <opencl-index v='0'/>
    </slot>
    <slot id='2' type='GPU'>
      <client-type v='advanced'/>
      <cuda-index v='1'/>
      <gpu-index v='1'/>
      <opencl-index v='1'/>
    </slot>
    <slot id='3' type='GPU'>




    Testing this out now, thanks!
     
    -Jason
    post edited by maj28 - 2017/03/23 05:41:09

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/23 06:33:57 (permalink)
    Hmmm, did a full uninstall and reinstall of the FAH client and so far it SEEMS to be working fairly well, 360k PPD...  sometimes it will bottom out after 10 or 20 minutes, we'll see.

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/23 21:02:40 (permalink)
    Actually I was thinking can't you run a vm with one of the cards dedicated to it and fold on that vm and fold in regular windows?  You will take a small hit, probably, but it might work because you can usually control what card is active in your vm.

     

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/24 05:26:03 (permalink)
    Ranmacanada
    Actually I was thinking can't you run a vm with one of the cards dedicated to it and fold on that vm and fold in regular windows?  You will take a small hit, probably, but it might work because you can usually control what card is active in your vm.




    I was also thinking about trying that, maybe if I get bored, I'm doing ok right now, between 330K and 360K.

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/24 16:45:46 (permalink)
    Hope the fix works for you better then it did for me.



     
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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/25 08:25:37 (permalink)
    330-360k is still low as a 3gb 1060 should get 300k by itself. how many cpu cores do you have free? 

      


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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/27 06:30:36 (permalink)
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    330-360k is still low as a 3gb 1060 should get 300k by itself. how many cpu cores do you have free? 




    Yeah I don't love the numbers, but I'm at a loss, just glad it's not complete sh*tting the bed like before.  I'm running 8350 (AMD FX octacore) at about 50% load.  The 1060 is getting 300+ most of the time, the 750 Ti FTW on the other hand has been stuck between 65 and 69K.
    post edited by maj28 - 2017/03/27 06:47:55

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/27 06:39:16 (permalink)
    Just noticed my 750 and 1060 were reversed, got that corrected, not sure if that will help or not.
     
    -Jason
     

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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/27 07:54:02 (permalink)
    i haven't run my 750 in a while but I don't think 65-69k is that far off the mark. 

      


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    Re: The 750 Ti FTW and 1060 don't play well together?! 2017/03/27 08:53:27 (permalink)
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    i haven't run my 750 in a while but I don't think 65-69k is that far off the mark. 




    Some folks say 80K+, but I'm not sure.  Few more days then I'll have a good daily average.  
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