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A normal user should never expect to do this:  This is what the Vince "K|ngp|n" Lucido does for a living!
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Re: Using ln2 K|ngp|n breaks 3ghz on the 1080ti
2017/03/21 04:24:17
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That is because he is supplied with a BIOS none of us will ever be able to get a hold of. So yea, don't really care. Yes, what he did can only be achieved by LN2, those of us on water are still wanting custom BIOS. Then maybe we could break the average clock and gain another 100MHz-300MHz. None of us will ever be able to push our cards further. What Nvidia gives us for adjustment is a complete joke.
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Re: Using ln2 K|ngp|n breaks 3ghz on the 1080ti
2017/03/21 05:29:09
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Most of his mods are hard mods. T|n attachs trim pots and all sorts of stuff to override bios issues. Yes, they get a custom bios, but they also dont have stock vrm or any of the limiting factors that are bios controlled anymore.
No, it isnt useful to normal users, or water users, but since these cards already overclock so well, people really dont have many reason to complain. If you are worried so much about what nvidia is doing with the bios, why buy the card knowing it is "limited"?
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Re: Using ln2 K|ngp|n breaks 3ghz on the 1080ti
2017/03/21 06:46:47
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Hey look what we can do with the cream of the crop silicon from nvidia/evga, modified hardware with custom bios/drivers no one else has access to.  The overclocking achievements/records KingPin or any "professional" overclocker sets or break is meaningless. It doesn't prove the quality of a product being sold to us. It's nothing but marketing to mislead consumers into thinking overclocking achievements/records means something about the product they purchase. I don't buy hardware based how high a professional can overclock it. I buy it based on REAL WORLD performance, not pointless modified hardware using extreme cooling methods. When did General Discussion become Overclocking, Cooling and Benchmarking
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Re: Using ln2 K|ngp|n breaks 3ghz on the 1080ti
2017/03/21 06:52:25
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How is it misleading? "Hey, we tore the vrm off the card, solder a bunch of stuff onto the card, tested many different configurations, and this is what we came up with."
Definitely misleading.
You are right about the forum placement. I was in a hurry.
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Re: Using ln2 K|ngp|n breaks 3ghz on the 1080ti
2017/03/21 07:04:29
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Scarlet-Tech
How is it misleading? "Hey, we tore the vrm off the card, solder a bunch of stuff onto the card, tested many different configurations, and this is what we came up with."
Definitely misleading.
You are right about the forum placement. I was in a hurry.
What information do mfg's use (all mfg's), they cherry pick the information they use to market the product. Example: KingPing breaks world record using GTX980Ti on EVGA Z170 Classified 4 way mobo". They don't put any disclaimer that it was accomplished using extreme modified hardware using hacker/customer bios/drivers.
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Re: Using ln2 K|ngp|n breaks 3ghz on the 1080ti
2017/03/21 07:43:00
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I equate LN2 benching to Formula 1, Motogp, Funny cars, Top Fuel, super computers, Nascar, Formula E, baja racing, and all other sorts of things that manufacturers use to try and sponsor their product and show off what it can do with extreme tuning and unlimited funding. Just like Toyota using baja trucks in their commercials to promote the tundra, and nascar using the cars and drivers to promote their cars.. it's all the same.
If any end user thinks they are going to get that sort of performance out of a standard card, car, motorcycle, or any object, they only prove their ignorance and lack of will to read the basic information put forth.
Vince has made videos in the past of all the testing he performs on the cards himself, and then he cherry picks his best performers, and then destroys them to add on all of the modifications.
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Re: Using ln2 K|ngp|n breaks 3ghz on the 1080ti
2017/03/21 12:12:11
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Now everyone will buy one expecting it to overclock high out of the box. 
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Re: Using ln2 K|ngp|n breaks 3ghz on the 1080ti
2017/03/21 12:39:03
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I demand my GTX 1080Ti Run @ 3000MHz or I want my Money Back, NOW.
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Re: Using ln2 K|ngp|n breaks 3ghz on the 1080ti
2017/03/21 13:57:35
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Scarlet-Tech
I equate LN2 benching to Formula 1, Motogp, Funny cars, Top Fuel, super computers, Nascar, Formula E, baja racing, and all other sorts of things that manufacturers use to try and sponsor their product and show off what it can do with extreme tuning and unlimited funding. Just like Toyota using baja trucks in their commercials to promote the tundra, and nascar using the cars and drivers to promote their cars.. it's all the same.
If any end user thinks they are going to get that sort of performance out of a standard card, car, motorcycle, or any object, they only prove their ignorance and lack of will to read the basic information put forth.
Vince has made videos in the past of all the testing he performs on the cards himself, and then he cherry picks his best performers, and then destroys them to add on all of the modifications.
+1 It is a competition and like any competition, the competitors do what ever they can within the rules of the competition to gain an advantage over the other competitors. No one could expect what he does to translate into an expectation of a off the shelf stock product.
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EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Overclocked to over 3 GHz under LN2
2017/03/22 11:52:59
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https://www.techpowerup.com/231751/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-overclocked-to-over-3-ghz-under-ln2
Kingpin has done it again using LN2.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Overclocked to over 3 GHz under LN2
2017/03/22 14:06:15
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Re: Using ln2 K|ngp|n breaks 3ghz on the 1080ti
2017/03/23 02:50:21
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I can't say I find this type of stuff to be any more misleading than professional sports, the olympics, or anything else world record like.
Sure, the world's fastest man may be wearing "awesome brand" shoes, but I don't think, at least I hope, that doesn't mean anyone expects results like that from those shoes, nor is it a real measurement of how well it does.
That said I don't know what goes through peoples head when they see someone running at 25 mph for 0.8 seconds, or seeing a graphics card OC to 3 Ghz, nor do I know what the company is thinking it'll do, My guess is more along the lines of brand recognition, rather than trying to trick people into thinking "we did this, and so can you!"
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Re: Using ln2 K|ngp|n breaks 3ghz on the 1080ti
2017/03/31 05:24:24
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What scarlett is trying to say is if you have the same card, yours MAY be capable of such things if you have money, a few pounds of copper, some liquid nitrogen, and an electrical engineer at your disposal. Here is where the big dog stuff starts to happen. Somewhere in here you may even find a few of my posts where I was soldering stuff to cards to break the cards design limitations; http://www.overclock.net/t/623325/ocns-vmod-squads-volt-mod-essentials The cards are designed to give you great performance for many years. What kingpin is doing is destroying the card for a few time uses. He is making is star go nova... so to speak, by using up ALL its hydrogen in one run. Thats where the money comes in. Get another card, lather, rinse, repeat.
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