Maybe these will be better gaming CPUs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWdhLXl5a5s

Zen 5 in action.

seth89

panzlock
Maybe these will be better gaming CPUs.

You have missed the point of the 7 series....

No, I haven't. I wasn't speaking from a moaners perspective. R7's are very capable and reasonably priced. But the gaming community, particularly the one from the Intel camp fail to realize the potential of AMD's new flagship CPUs. Overall it is a great product based on testing results, however many expected more out of it in terms of gaming and overclocking potential.
 
I expect the R5 to be closer to the 6700K and 7700K which hopefully translates to similar gaming benchmarks and ends the debate about AMD's stature as Intel's competitor in the mid to high end CPU desktop market in general performance. Hence my comment which was aimed at those who relentlessly berate Ryzen due to shortcomings at 1080p where the 7700K in particular holds an advantage even over Intel's overpriced sibling.
 
I've read too many absurd posts about how "bad" Ryzen is because the R7 can't duplicate benchmark scores of its Intel adversary which, if I may point out once again, is priced at double the cost.
 
What I want the R5 to do is shut these people up.

WackyWRZ

panzlock
No, I haven't. I wasn't speaking from a moaners perspective. R7's are very capable and reasonably priced. But the gaming community, particularly the one from the Intel camp fail to realize the potential of AMD's new flagship CPUs. Overall it is a great product based on testing results, however many expected more out of it in terms of gaming and overclocking potential.
 
I expect the R5 to be closer to the 6700K and 7700K which hopefully translates to similar gaming benchmarks and ends the debate about AMD's stature as Intel's competitor in the mid to high end CPU desktop market in general performance. Hence my comment which was aimed at those who relentlessly berate Ryzen due to shortcomings at 1080p where the 7700K in particular holds an advantage even over Intel's overpriced sibling.
 
I've read too many absurd posts about how "bad" Ryzen is because the R7 can't duplicate benchmark scores of its Intel adversary which, if I may point out once again, is priced at double the cost.
 
What I want the R5 to do is shut these people up.

It won't shut them up though...  It looks as though it still tops out at about 4Ghz - so I would assume similar performance in gaming scenarios as the R7.  The killer I think is the 1500x 4C/8T that could potentially boost up to 3.9 at $189.  So potential i7 multitasking potential equivalent at cheaper than i5 prices???  Sounds OK to me - and there's still room for optimization too.  I see Intel dropping an i5 chip with HT next to combat this.

Despite having low OC thresholds the R7 is up there in performance with Intel's best in terms of compute and gaming at higher resolution so lets wait and see before we abuse the R5 too much. Granted it very well may not have the same power available on tap as Intel's i7's but like you pointed out i5's are definitely within reach which should chip away at Intel's revenue forcing a reaction via price drop or better tech or both. Either way consumers win and this is what Intel fanboys are clearly missing. They can keep their stupid benchmarks.

knightsilver
Those Ryzen 5 prices could be alot better, AMD could sell the Ryzen 5 Quadcore for $100 and sell like hotcakes....

They need to make good profits in order to stick close behind Intel.