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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/17 08:36:22 (permalink)
plans? plans? we´ve got plans?
Are we doing something different this year

 
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/17 16:43:01 (permalink)
Less than 20 minutes left for Swimming!  Make sure to upload all your completed Rosetta work before the hour.


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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/17 16:56:33 (permalink)
Done w/ rosetta. They will keep reporting but I PMed you on the other machines.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/17 18:04:15 (permalink)
Due to a misunderstanding of the tie-breaking rule, the strategy that Mr. B and I came up with won't work.  We would have been in a good position if we had caught back up in Swimming, but we fell 3000 points short at the final update.  Since AnandTech has higher results than us in 3 disciplines, they win the tie-breaker for 13th.  They have a huge amount of momentum (basically work waiting for validation) in Universe, since they have outproduced us by nearly double for a while, so it's highly unlikely we could catch back up.  If we put all our systems to work on Universe, they would easily pass us in CSG.  Therefore, I don't have any good ideas on what to focus on for the last 23 hours.  We could put all our resources on CSG and hope to maintain a tie in total points with AnandTech, but they would still win the tiebreaker. 
 
The best I can come up with is to go all in on CSG to maintain our position and points there in order to hold off [H] who could come from behind in the last day.  If someone else can come up with an alternate scenario that works, please post it here.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/17 18:15:10 (permalink)
What no Number 14?
I think we should still be 13 too!

 
We have a 14 Now!

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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/17 19:24:26 (permalink)
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Due to a misunderstanding of the tie-breaking rule, the strategy that Mr. B and I came up with won't work.  We would have been in a good position if we had caught back up in Swimming, but we fell 3000 points short at the final update.  Since AnandTech has higher results than us in 3 disciplines, they win the tie-breaker for 13th.  They have a huge amount of momentum (basically work waiting for validation) in Universe, since they have outproduced us by nearly double for a while, so it's highly unlikely we could catch back up.  If we put all our systems to work on Universe, they would easily pass us in CSG.  Therefore, I don't have any good ideas on what to focus on for the last 23 hours.  We could put all our resources on CSG and hope to maintain a tie in total points with AnandTech, but they would still win the tiebreaker. 
 
The best I can come up with is to go all in on CSG to maintain our position and points there in order to hold off [H] who could come from behind in the last day.  If someone else can come up with an alternate scenario that works, please post it here.


That being said I will put everything on CSG. I will dump some work units in the AM est but I am now switching out Universe for CSG.
No consolation but I think this pentathlon was poorly run. Just my opinion. I thank all that have participated and PUNCHY for trying to create a strategy for us.
We are still one of the best teams in the league!!
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/17 19:25:11 (permalink)
That's bizarre, you must have caught it in the middle of an update.


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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/17 19:29:58 (permalink)
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That's bizarre, you must have caught it in the middle of an update.


No kidding - Say Wha??


 
ps look at AnandTech output in the last hour on CSG.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 06:32:05 (permalink)
Interesting, we are staying much closer in Universe than in CSG.  This may be because AnandTech has one guy claiming to have 214 cores running CSG.  Of course, that could all be pure misdirection, and secret bunkering could throw everything off, but if anyone has some resources to throw at Universe, we might have a chance of taking our spot back.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 10:08:41 (permalink)
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Interesting, we are staying much closer in Universe than in CSG.  This may be because AnandTech has one guy claiming to have 214 cores running CSG.  Of course, that could all be pure misdirection, and secret bunkering could throw everything off, but if anyone has some resources to throw at Universe, we might have a chance of taking our spot back.


Well I wasted the last 24 hour waiting for CSG and gave up went back over to Universe@Home for the last 18 hours. 

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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 11:24:02 (permalink)
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Interesting, we are staying much closer in Universe than in CSG.  This may be because AnandTech has one guy claiming to have 214 cores running CSG.  Of course, that could all be pure misdirection, and secret bunkering could throw everything off, but if anyone has some resources to throw at Universe, we might have a chance of taking our spot back.




Yep, you got your spot back.
 
I have 214 thread/cores, actually. Would be an even 250 threads if I had vid cards installed in 3 of the workstations and could get into the BIOS to enable HT.
 
I just wanted to drop in and pay my respects, you have all put up one heck of a fight!!! And it's going to be very very close indeed!
 
No misdirection:  We (AnandTech) can't catch the UK team on CSG, and I don't think you can catch us on CSG in such a short timespan (unless you've got some sneaky bunkering going on!) so I'm all in on Universe now since you're hammering us there at the moment.
 
Thanks for making it beyond interesting! See you in the PrimeGrid battle coming up in about 2 days?
 

post edited by 10esseetony - 2016/06/18 11:42:08
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 12:18:41 (permalink)
Thanks for the outstanding competition from TAAT.  Been a great battle.  Tie breakers go to you, but we're going down
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 12:23:46 (permalink)
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I just wanted to drop in and pay my respects, you have all put up one heck of a fight!!! And it's going to be very very close indeed!
 
No misdirection:  We (AnandTech) can't catch the UK team on CSG, and I don't think you can catch us on CSG in such a short timespan (unless you've got some sneaky bunkering going on!) so I'm all in on Universe now since you're hammering us there at the moment.



Thanks Tony, I don't remember any race where we had such close competition on 3 different fronts!  You just barely held us off at the last minute in Rosetta - kudos to you and your team.
 
Now be nice and switch back to CSG so we can take the spot in Universe and keep the teams below us from catching up.    You'll win on the tiebreaker unless we catch you in both CSG and Universe, which seems unlikely.
 
And, how in the world do you keep that room from overheating?


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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 12:27:11 (permalink)
Much respect to you too!
I think nobody around here was doubting your number of cores/threads, just that they were purely running csg. Doesn´t make much sense shooting for some underclockers when you have the 6 point battles right there.
 
And who knows, maybe we do have some sneaky bunker

 
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 12:38:23 (permalink)
I didn't close my windows/turn off the window fans until mid-January. lol  But the best answer to how I keep the house cool is that when my new HVAC was installed last year, I told them I had internal heat sources during the summer and insisted the next larger size heat pump.
 
The black case/red fan and the yellow one are my pride and joy, the twins, Xeon e5-2695-v3@2.7GHz (turbo), (14 cores/28 threads each), and they are my 'normal' crunchers. I had to fire up the rest of the fleet to hold you guys off!  All the Dell's were supposed to have been sold months ago....but I'm lazy.
 
You know, I honestly just examined your stats, while considering your plea. Eh, you'll be okay, no one's gonna overtake you (bunkering excluded of course). Definitely would have helped you out though if BOINCStats was a threat...they beat us last year and I haven't forgiven them yet.
 
 
EDIT:  Looks like I'm only going to be able to finish another 160 Universe before the end of the race, of which maybe half will get validated immediately.  Whew, then the AC might be able to turn off for the first time in days. Good luck guys!
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 12:42:04 (permalink)
"And, how in the world do you keep that room from overheating?"
 
I had the same exact thought lol.
 
edit: And now I know.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 18:16:01 (permalink)
Holy crap. You got us on Universe after all! Well done guys!
 
 
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 18:33:21 (permalink)
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Holy crap. You got us on Universe after all! Well done guys!
 

I was hoping that adding 48 Threads would do a little.

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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 20:24:55 (permalink)
Hey guy's. Unfortunately I had to wind my rigs down Friday morning before I left town. I'm away with my wife for her 60th birthday and felt uncomfortable leaving things running as the temps began rising. Kudo's to tony, Ken and the guys at Team Annandtech. Mucho respect!
Should be back for the start of the PG challenge or just a couple hours late.


 

 
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/18 21:29:50 (permalink)
It was fun, I'll be back for the Prime Grids 4th Challenge in a couple of days.



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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/19 04:30:29 (permalink)
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Great job everybody, was interesting to say the least. 
Will be nice to shut down even for just a while until the PG challenge starts.
Would be great if one of us finds a "Mega prime" this time aroun. Several have been found in the last couple months, so they are out there.
Go get your self one. Or two.
Good luck.
 
Thanks Bill for the extra 48, and Yodap, good call on the PG sieve WUs, Punchy for keeping us aimed in the right direction.
To those that hardly crunch anymore, thanks for joining in. And everyone else for a great team effort.
To the other teams who kept a fire lit under our bums to keep chrunching along.
Cheers!!


Thanks to everyone that participated - it was definitely interesting! Great job


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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/19 07:56:16 (permalink)
We had a couple folks (bill1024, bcav, Mr. B and Orange) posting huge Universe numbers yesterday and the remaining 8 of us filled in enough to take our spot back from AnandTech at the finish line.  I don't think I have ever seen such a close final day - the spot changed hands at least 6 times in the 12 hours I was watching.
 
Thanks to everyone that joined!  Next time I think we need a secret forum for behind-the-scenes planning...


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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/19 17:19:51 (permalink)
Great job with the final push!  I always enjoy the Pentathlon and managing which project to run.
Had to shut down a day early as temps were getting high....It's 100 F today and my computer room doesn't have A/C!

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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2016/06/20 18:43:20 (permalink)
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Final statements
 
https://www.seti-germany....on-2016-Final-Ceremony


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14. Crunching@EVGA (16-11-18-16-14) – Previous year: 14th Place
This team are masters in consistency. At the start of the Pentathlon since 2012 there’ve been 4x Rank 14 and 1x Rank 13. Only by a narrow margin and on the home straight did they lose their grip on #13 at the Marathon. They appear to like it in midfield but the opposition is not asleep.

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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!! 2020/06/04 11:30:04 (permalink)
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