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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/25 17:33:55 (permalink)
People couldn't believe my Hybrid temps when I started posting mine either, sometimes ya get a card that has a good paste job, slap push/pull on it and roll out.  Happy you're happy with your card though :-D

If you haven't tried push/pull yet & you have the room to run it (fan clearance etc wise) I'd highly recommend trying it, it lowered temperatures on the 3090 Hybrid I had way back when by a good bit, more than I was expecting.  Even with a 240mm radiator, it's getting heat-soaked a bit with how much wattage of heat the 3080/3090 puts out and how thin the radiator is, so push/pull does help.
 
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 00:21:38 (permalink)
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People couldn't believe my Hybrid temps when I started posting mine either, sometimes ya get a card that has a good paste job, slap push/pull on it and roll out.  Happy you're happy with your card though :-D

If you haven't tried push/pull yet & you have the room to run it (fan clearance etc wise) I'd highly recommend trying it, it lowered temperatures on the 3090 Hybrid I had way back when by a good bit, more than I was expecting.  Even with a 240mm radiator, it's getting heat-soaked a bit with how much wattage of heat the 3080/3090 puts out and how thin the radiator is, so push/pull does help.
 
And no, I'm not back, I just felt like commenting on this thread because I remembered you were very much looking forward to getting your card :-D




Thanks!!!! I'm happy too.
 
Back? Where did you go? I was wondering why you stopped answering in the "get that backside VRM cool" thread you made.   I was thinking of doing that with my Hybrid, covering the backplate with heat sinks (as I did my previous AIO radiator by surrounding the edges with them, which got it about 5c cooler)  but with such low temps I think I'm happy with it right now!
 
Edit: Oh yes I had push/pull on my corsair hydro, I have 4 silent wings fans on their way to test it with this too. Not that I care if 50c is the max but it would be fun to try it anyway.
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 04:09:35 (permalink)
how do you get such low temps?
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 11:46:30 (permalink)
So after reading this, do you have Precision X OC installed? I know you can set the program to force it to reach a certain temp and not go higher. Think that could be it?


 
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 12:58:09 (permalink)
Sometimes people just win the silicon lottery. he did the end of the story.
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 13:08:55 (permalink)
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Sometimes people just win the silicon lottery. he did the end of the story.




All these figures are meaningless without knowing the average power level in WATTS.
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 14:01:51 (permalink)
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Sometimes people just win the silicon lottery. he did the end of the story.




All these figures are meaningless without knowing the average power level in WATTS.




Please tell me how to do this with HWinfo.  I was trying to do it late last night, but I couldn't figure out what menu to go to to bring up the OSD with power draw.  Thanks.

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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 14:16:04 (permalink)
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So after reading this, do you have Precision X OC installed? I know you can set the program to force it to reach a certain temp and not go higher. Think that could be it?




I do, and last night when I installed it, it updated the firmware then I reset the card to defaults, making sure nothing was set there.   Ran the temp OSD and got 48c average running AC Valhalla at extreme settings/all max for 15 minutes.   

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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 14:29:19 (permalink)
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Sometimes people just win the silicon lottery. he did the end of the story.




All these figures are meaningless without knowing the average power level in WATTS.




Please tell me how to do this with HWinfo.  I was trying to do it late last night, but I couldn't figure out what menu to go to to bring up the OSD with power draw.  Thanks.




You need RivaTuner installed (comes with Afterburner or can be installed and run separately).  You get the sensor window running in HWiNFO, then go to the sensor settings menu (big gear at bottom).  There is an OSD (RTSS) tab.  Find the parameters you want to display then enable them.  Make sure OSD is on in RivaTuner.   
 
https://afixerofsorts.blogspot.com/2017/03/osd-with-rtss-and-hwinfo.html
 
There's also youtube videos on it.  I posted previously how to take an average, by starting a load then resetting logging and letting it run under load.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2022/01/26 14:30:27
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 16:07:58 (permalink)
I find MSI Kombutsor pushes the card as hard as anything , and you will see in peak performance vs load and give the MAX temps and will exploit any instability.  In 25 minutes you will see what any high end demand will produce as far as heat and any potential throttling.  I have not played with a 3080 Hybrid in about 6 months but I seem to remember my old card running about 49 deg with a panel off 52 with panel on, 47 with my own curve that was 33 on the floor and 66% @ 50 to 93% @ 66 deg. I would say you are Normal.  My KPE wont even start a fan until it hit 50 so that's not going to happen at default , but with my own curve and an undervolt It will run all day long at 48deg , Port Royal 14165 and TS 21688 @48C -380w,  My old 3080 would PR 11474 at 320w and sustain 46C degrees under load. with undervolt = .831v / 1875Clk +1110mem
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 18:42:18 (permalink)
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Sometimes people just win the silicon lottery. he did the end of the story.




All these figures are meaningless without knowing the average power level in WATTS.




Please tell me how to do this with HWinfo.  I was trying to do it late last night, but I couldn't figure out what menu to go to to bring up the OSD with power draw.  Thanks.




You need RivaTuner installed (comes with Afterburner or can be installed and run separately).  You get the sensor window running in HWiNFO, then go to the sensor settings menu (big gear at bottom).  There is an OSD (RTSS) tab.  Find the parameters you want to display then enable them.  Make sure OSD is on in RivaTuner.   
 
https://afixerofsorts.blogspot.com/2017/03/osd-with-rtss-and-hwinfo.html
 
There's also youtube videos on it.  I posted previously how to take an average, by starting a load then resetting logging and letting it run under load.




How about this? Looks like an average of 300+
 

post edited by yaggaz - 2022/01/26 18:45:09

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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 19:03:58 (permalink)
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(I don't have those other benchmarkers...yet)

 
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 19:18:32 (permalink)
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How about this? Looks like an average of 300+
 





That's a cropped graph with no marked gradations and one (peak) point selected.
 
Regardless, it's around 300w.  You can get under 50C at 300w sustained with a FTW3 air cooler if you run the fans fairly fast.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2022/01/26 19:21:10
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 20:33:41 (permalink)
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How about this? Looks like an average of 300+
 





That's a cropped graph with no marked gradations and one (peak) point selected.
 
Regardless, it's around 300w.  You can get under 50C at 300w sustained with a FTW3 air cooler if you run the fans fairly fast.




So is the Card peaking at 300w ? or 450w?
 
If I leave GPU-Z running in the background and run Valhalla benchmark or play the game then exit and check Max Board Power Draw Im at 440w (flatlined so pretty much sustained).....
My max Core temp reaches around 46c-47c with D5 Vario Pump @3200RPM...480*360*240 Rads all with Noctua High Static Pressure fans.....ambient 20c...
So if your also same Wattage...same ambient or close to it...you have one heck of a chip n hybrid cooler indeed!!!!
post edited by rjbarker - 2022/01/26 20:41:07

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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 20:53:01 (permalink)
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How about this? Looks like an average of 300+
 





That's a cropped graph with no marked gradations and one (peak) point selected.
 
Regardless, it's around 300w.  You can get under 50C at 300w sustained with a FTW3 air cooler if you run the fans fairly fast.




So is the Card peaking at 300w ? or 450w?
 
If I leave GPU-Z running in the background and run Valhalla benchmark or play the game then exit and check Max Board Power Draw Im at 440w (flatlined so pretty much sustained).....
My max Core temp reaches around 46c-47c with D5 Vario Pump @3200RPM...480*360*240 Rads all with Noctua High Static Pressure fans.....ambient 20c...
So if your also same Wattage...same ambient or close to it...you have one heck of a chip n hybrid cooler indeed!!!!




He's reading 314w at the peak to the left of where the readout is, it's a half gradation over.  So like 300w average.  HWiNFO will give you a calculated average no problem if you reset logging, then tab into the game and run it for say 10 minutes.  IMHO there a huge difference in the cooling needs for ~450w vs. 300w to stay at 50C. 
 

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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 21:07:47 (permalink)
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I am also curious to know how are you getting temps < 50c. My 3080Ti hybrid has never seen temps below 65c @ 100% load.

Sounds like you are on the stock fan curve on the normal switch position? I don't think the fans turn in until 60C. Setting a custom fan speed curve in afterburner overrides the "silent fan mode" the card uses.

With the XC3 3080, I would see high 40s on the hybrid under full load (340W). The FTW3 3080Ti puts it more around mid 50s but that's with 80W more power being cooled.



Yes I am on normal switch position but have set an aggressive fan curve (90% @50c) in MSI afterburner for fans on the radiator (Arctic P12s in push pull configuration). My GPU core temp is always in the range of 66-68c


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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 21:24:23 (permalink)
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How about this? Looks like an average of 300+
 





That's a cropped graph with no marked gradations and one (peak) point selected.
 
Regardless, it's around 300w.  You can get under 50C at 300w sustained with a FTW3 air cooler if you run the fans fairly fast.




So is the Card peaking at 300w ? or 450w?
 
If I leave GPU-Z running in the background and run Valhalla benchmark or play the game then exit and check Max Board Power Draw Im at 440w (flatlined so pretty much sustained).....
My max Core temp reaches around 46c-47c with D5 Vario Pump @3200RPM...480*360*240 Rads all with Noctua High Static Pressure fans.....ambient 20c...
So if your also same Wattage...same ambient or close to it...you have one heck of a chip n hybrid cooler indeed!!!!




He's reading 314w at the peak to the left of where the readout is, it's a half gradation over.  So like 300w average.  HWiNFO will give you a calculated average no problem if you reset logging, then tab into the game and run it for say 10 minutes.  IMHO there a huge difference in the cooling needs for ~450w vs. 300w to stay at 50C. 
 





Well if the OP is only drawing 315w while playing Valhalla that would explain the peak temp of 49c....
 




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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/26 23:38:10 (permalink)
Those temps look really good for a hybrid. I was thinking for a second that this was a hydro not a hybrid card when I read the temps.

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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/27 05:19:28 (permalink)
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Well if the OP is only drawing 315w while playing Valhalla that would explain the peak temp of 49c....
 







He's getting good, but totally normal results.  There is nothing exceptional about the card, he hasn't posted the exact setup but he had a hybrid card before and it was properly setup with an airflow case.
 
The people reporting 60C+ have restrictive air flow cases, low fan speeds and are running 400W+ sustained.  Obviously there's some variation in the cards and the occasional bad mount.
 
To do under 50C at 450w sustained you need push pull 3000rpm+ server fans on the hybrid rad like my post above or ambient temps under 10C or a big custom loop.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2022/01/27 19:58:02
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/27 19:34:26 (permalink)
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He's getting good, but totally normal results.  There is nothing exceptional about the card, he hasn't posted the exact setup but he had a hybrid card before and it was properly setup with an airflow case.
 



Is my signature not showing?   Actually I should update it.
 
I didn't have a hybrid, I just put a kraken/corsair 120mm radiator AIO on the 2080 super.  I have the same case and cooling setup.  The p400a isnt the best but is highly rated for airflow performance.    I have three 120mm intake fans on the front, a 140mm intake fan on the roof and a 120mm exhaust fan on the rear.   Intakes set to normal, out-take set to slow. 
 
Also the XC3 Ultra has a power draw of 320w,  if my chart shows lots of 300 to 315w, with even spikes of 350, I'd say all is good.  Thanks for helping me out again!  And thanks to GTXjack for putting up with my hysteria lol
 
One final thing, the mem junction shows average of 74c temps, I'm assuming that's fine if they can go a lot higher in temps?
post edited by yaggaz - 2022/01/27 19:36:31

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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/27 19:44:04 (permalink)
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And thanks to GTXjack for putting up with my hysteria lol
 
One final thing, the mem junction shows average of 74c temps, I'm assuming that's fine if they can go a lot higher in temps?




No worries.  Anytime.  
 
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/27 19:50:05 (permalink)
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He's getting good, but totally normal results.  There is nothing exceptional about the card, he hasn't posted the exact setup but he had a hybrid card before and it was properly setup with an airflow case.
 



Is my signature not showing?   Actually I should update it.
 
I didn't have a hybrid, I just put a kraken/corsair 120mm radiator AIO on the 2080 super.  I have the same case and cooling setup.  The p400a isnt the best but is highly rated for airflow performance.    I have three 120mm intake fans on the front, a 140mm intake fan on the roof and a 120mm exhaust fan on the rear.   Intakes set to normal, out-take set to slow. 
 
Also the XC3 Ultra has a power draw of 320w,  if my chart shows lots of 300 to 315w, with even spikes of 350, I'd say all is good.  Thanks for helping me out again!  And thanks to GTXjack for putting up with my hysteria lol
 
One final thing, the mem junction shows average of 74c temps, I'm assuming that's fine if they can go a lot higher in temps?




Yeah I was around when you put the Kraken kit on, that's what I was referring to.  It is a hybrid kit, so clearly you had a hybrid GPU in an airflow case previously, which is also a good setup for the 3080 Hybrid.  The term hybrid refers to water cooling on the die and air cooling on the VRM.  The exact setup I was referring to is fan/rad position and ambient temps.  Front intake is an advantage.
 
All is normal.  People just need to understand how air flow and power level impact resulting temps.  I get annoyed when people are shocked they have 60C+ with 400w+ in a glass box, after they see your setup with far lower temps without context.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2022/01/27 20:01:41
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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/28 07:15:39 (permalink)
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And thanks to GTXjack for putting up with my hysteria lol
 
One final thing, the mem junction shows average of 74c temps, I'm assuming that's fine if they can go a lot higher in temps?




No worries.  Anytime.  
 
As for your VRAM, those temps are fine.  I think the max is 94c.




Throttles at 110C I thought

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Re: Finally installed my 3080 Hybrid 2022/01/30 07:58:19 (permalink)
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