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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 17:53:28 (permalink)
Yes 1.175V, temps were below 57C (19C in the room).
 
I bought a FTW3 12Gbps but it was the hottest & loudest 1080ti I've had by a wide margin so had to return it.
Only got 5066 Graphics Score with it in the same environment and with the same XOC bios: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/2713579
 
EVGA should really go for 2,5 slot cooler in the next generation to keep up with the competition.
Also they should make sure their thermal paste is both of good quality & is being applied properly every time. MSI example: https://overclock3d.net/gfx/articles/2017/10/11123711380l.jpg
 
Sajin I'm wondering if your good result is solely due to the Kingpin PCB/VBIOS being faster, or did you try also some software tweaking? (Like trying different nvidia drivers).
Edit: Kingpin VBIOS is too different to flash on other cards.
 
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 18:05:14 (permalink)
Nice. And yeah I have heard some things about evga loosing ground when it comes to thermals but I am a sucker for the 1080 ti kingpin i want that, plan on buying that
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 18:41:53 (permalink)
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Sajin I'm wondering if your good result is solely due to the Kingpin PCB/VBIOS being faster, or did you try also some software tweaking? (Like trying different nvidia drivers).

I did try different drivers.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 18:44:44 (permalink)
I notice your high score is on old drivers and an old build of windows. What is your current score?
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 18:49:14 (permalink)
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I notice your high score is on old drivers and an old build of windows. What is your current score?

Slightly lower. My best is already listed on the 3dmark website.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 18:52:21 (permalink)
Graphics score 5101 with Sajin's clocks: 2063MHz, 1.075V, Mem maxed out +1000 with no single artifact. It seems Mem overclocks better when the vcore is lower as the card & mem stays cooler.
Trying now with Sajin's 385.41 drivers.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 18:53:36 (permalink)
Yes. The best run is always listed unless deleted by the user. Everyone understands that, but your other runs don’t show. My question stands, what are your current scores, since the one could have easily been a “fluke”.

3D mark is usually consistent, but there is times where runs are off and scores are really high or really low. I notice you only consistently show the one high score from August where you used to show each score as it went up slowly.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 19:05:33 (permalink)
5098 with 385.41 vs 5101 with 388.31, so no improvement there.
 
Could you Sajin do like 2-3 runs with the same settings (2063/mem maxed) as in your best one? Then we could see if it's a fluke or not and can confirm whether the Kingpin PCB is really faster than the rest.
 
 
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 19:54:56 (permalink)
You think my score is a fluke?
 
Since 3dmark easily gives out fluke scores you should be able to get that majic fluke score yourself. 
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 20:03:58 (permalink)
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You think my score is a fluke?
 
Since 3dmark easily gives out fluke scores you should be able to get that majic fluke score yourself. 




 
you're right, 3d mark would never randomly throw out a wrong reading with all the same settings.  No reason to help the community understand the scores.  
 
It amuses me, you of all people, are the one that brags about your score, but refuse to show more recent scores.  I thought you had the bragging rights with the kingpin, but I guess once you get one good score, that is all that is needed.  just hide the rest.  
 

 
 

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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 20:10:12 (permalink)
So where is your high fluke score at? Let's see it.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 20:15:31 (permalink)
You can see all my scores right there, as I am not afraid to share. You can also see where it randomly dropped 800 points as well.

If you don’t want to show you scores, no biggie, but if you are going to play the e-peen game where you wave yours around, feel free to back it up like the rest of the users do. Hiding your scores only makes it look more like a flawed run.

Just like competition, when someone gets a high score, they are required to post a screen shot of their cpu-z, gpu-z, and benchmark run.

I have no high score that would change anything, so I don’t need them, but when I consistently ran top 10 in the 780ti class, I posted them on overclock.net with every score update. I haven’t seen another user brag about their score and then hide so much after.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 20:17:10 (permalink)
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You think my score is a fluke?

Not likely, but your Graphics Test 1 seems at least 1,5fps higher than what it normally is with those clocks.
 
So I think the most likely explanation is: Kingpin VBIOS uses tighter VRAM latency.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 20:20:48 (permalink)
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You can see all my scores right there, as I am not afraid to share. You can also see where it randomly dropped 800 points as well.

If you don’t want to show you scores, no biggie, but if you are going to play the e-peen game where you wave yours around, feel free to back it up like the rest of the users do. Hiding your scores only makes it look more like a flawed run.

Just like competition, when someone gets a high score, they are required to post a screen shot of their cpu-z, gpu-z, and benchmark run.

I have no high score that would change anything, so I don’t need them, but when I consistently ran top 10 in the 780ti class, I posted them on overclock.net with every score update. I haven’t seen another user brag about their score and then hide so much after.

So just because you can't get a high score like mine it must be a fluke? Good one. Never expected that from you.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 20:24:31 (permalink)
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You think my score is a fluke?

Not likely, but your Graphics Test 1 seems at least 1,5fps higher than what it normally is with those clocks.
 
So I think the most likely explanation is: Kingpin VBIOS uses tighter VRAM latency.


If that is the case you should be able to see the difference at lower clocks as well.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 20:25:46 (permalink)
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So just because you can't get a high score like mine it must be a fluke? Good one. Never expected that from you.


You are seriously going as far as to get offended? Where did I say “your score is a fluke”? Please quote that exact phrase...

I said it could have been, sure, but I wasn’t saying it is. Don’t forget, 3D mark had to go through and delete a bunch of bad runs. Luckily yours isn’t one of them, but if you think it is perfect, then you are lying to yourself and everyone else.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 20:31:47 (permalink)
No need to show you an exact phrase. Your posts show what you actually think. Good day.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 20:38:34 (permalink)
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You can see all my scores right there, as I am not afraid to share. You can also see where it randomly dropped 800 points as well.

If you don’t want to show you scores, no biggie, but if you are going to play the e-peen game where you wave yours around, feel free to back it up like the rest of the users do. Hiding your scores only makes it look more like a flawed run.

Just like competition, when someone gets a high score, they are required to post a screen shot of their cpu-z, gpu-z, and benchmark run.

I have no high score that would change anything, so I don’t need them, but when I consistently ran top 10 in the 780ti class, I posted them on overclock.net with every score update. I haven’t seen another user brag about their score and then hide so much after.

So just because you can't get a high score like mine it must be a fluke? Good one. Never expected that from you.


It's not a fluke it's simply when the FutureMark GODS align. 




 
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 20:46:23 (permalink)
Cool :-). Since I am not the only one that wants to see more recent scores, I will adjust assume your recent runs are on the low end because of newer windows build and drivers. I’m the future, hopefully you don’t hide your scores after getting one good run in.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 21:50:34 (permalink)
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Cool :-). Since I am not the only one that wants to see more recent scores, I will adjust assume your recent runs are on the low end because of newer windows build and drivers. I’m the future, hopefully you don’t hide your scores after getting one good run in.

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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 21:52:17 (permalink)
Kingpin card seems to be simply ~5% faster, I compared Saijin's 8K Superposition score to mine:
My score 4837: steady 1062mV 2063-2050MHz, memory maxed +1000Mhz, max temp 55C. XOC Bios, no visible power limits.
My score 4838: fluctuating 2000-2037MHz (2012-2025 avg), memory maxed +1000Mhz, max temp 53C. Zotac 384W power limit bios. Max gpu Power only 112% (358W even though slider was maxed to 1205).
My score 4920: steady 1143mV 2139MHz, memory +950Mhz, max temp 63C. XOC Bios, no visible power limits.
Saijin's score 5224: Steady 2037MHz, memory maxed +1000MHz, max temp 58C.
 

 
Maybe the XOC bios isn't as good as a proper shunt-mod, i.e. it has invisible throttle which reduces performance.
 
Edit: OK Saijin confirms this here :) https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2719887
 
 
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/26 22:02:01 (permalink)
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Cool :-). Since I am not the only one that wants to see more recent scores, I will adjust assume your recent runs are on the low end because of newer windows build and drivers. I’m the future, hopefully you don’t hide your scores after getting one good run in.

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Dat CPU score...I get 
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/28 14:26:37 (permalink)
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Cool :-). Since I am not the only one that wants to see more recent scores, I will adjust assume your recent runs are on the low end because of newer windows build and drivers. I’m the future, hopefully you don’t hide your scores after getting one good run in.


 

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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/28 14:51:21 (permalink)
Sajin

 



Great score. That wasn’t so hard, was it?
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/28 14:52:50 (permalink)
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Sajin

 



Great score. That wasn’t so hard, was it?

Not at all. 
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/28 14:53:54 (permalink)
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Cool :-). Since I am not the only one that wants to see more recent scores, I will adjust assume your recent runs are on the low end because of newer windows build and drivers. I’m the future, hopefully you don’t hide your scores after getting one good run in.


 








 
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/28 15:01:21 (permalink)
Sajin, thank you for sharing. I am testing out my second card, because I never thought to set my second monitor as the primary display and run the test on there. The lower card seems to overclock further than the top card so far. Top card poops out at 2063 and the bottom doesn’t look to have even a slight struggle at 2100 so far.

Your kingpin card definitely seems to pump out some great graphics scores.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/28 15:09:29 (permalink)
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Cool :-). Since I am not the only one that wants to see more recent scores, I will adjust assume your recent runs are on the low end because of newer windows build and drivers. I’m the future, hopefully you don’t hide your scores after getting one good run in.

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Dat CPU score...I get 
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CPU Score 3213




Ya, it's a beast 18 cores @ 5.GHz water cooled to 8c. 




 
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/28 15:10:40 (permalink)
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Sajin, thank you for sharing. I am testing out my second card, because I never thought to set my second monitor as the primary display and run the test on there. The lower card seems to overclock further than the top card so far. Top card poops out at 2063 and the bottom doesn’t look to have even a slight struggle at 2100 so far.

Your kingpin card definitely seems to pump out some great graphics scores.

No problem. Yes, it does.
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Re: Fastest air/water cooled 1080 ti's on time spy extreme 2017/11/28 15:10:41 (permalink)
Great result Sajin, what were the clocks?
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