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2022/05/28 11:38:24 (permalink)
So I got this card in Jan 2021 and bought the extended warranty. Put an EKWB on it. Couple months later, put the EKWB active backplate on it. This thing seems temperamental and I saw on several forums where people said this card had trouble, so I've been mildly worried it. However, I also upgraded my power supply from an eVGA P2 1200 to a BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500W titanium months ago when claims that some of the trouble is/was PSU related, and that certainly seemed to help and for the most part, ran fine........up until today.

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I can't think of anything else to try, except changing out all components one by one, which I've done, except mobo. RE-flashed BIOS. Downgraded BIOS. Upgraded to latest BIOS. Same result. I'm forced to conclude it's the card. I have everything that came with the card, but the thermal padding on the original is so torn up. Do I put it back together anyway, or do I just include the card w/ it's original components? I don't want to be a jerk, but putting it back together doesn't seem all that helpful. I just want to do it the right way before requesting an RMA. I'm new to eVGA. (...at least on the video card side of things)


Thoughts or advice? Thanks in advance, and sorry if this is the wrong place.
 
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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/28 12:06:59 (permalink)
    Try a different video card. Always keep a basic or cheap card around for simple testing.
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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/28 12:13:11 (permalink)
    Everything must be set back to factory condition before rma’ing.

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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/28 12:46:09 (permalink)
    I would say if you tried everything else, then it must be the card.
    Just slap the cooler on the card. Don't worry about the thermal pads. Just stick a note on the card they aren't there. The thermal material that they use is ridiculous. It's not even a pad, it's like a paste. I don't think anybody expects you to reuse the gunk.

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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/28 13:12:38 (permalink)
    Yup.. slap it back together and call for the rma instead of email to save time.

    Prob is with the holiday they will be closed most likely on Monday.. so call on Tuesday.

    I think they may cross ship and add the label for the return shipping. Also I don't think you want to return anything other then the card itself carefully packed in the anti static wrapper and some lots of bubble wrap.

    They won't return the original box or anything else inside the original box.. so don't return those.

    Usually to cross ship a card you'll have to put the cost of the new card on a credit card temporarily till they receive the old card and check it out.

    Also they may charge you an extra $45? To replace the thermal pads and thermal putty and paste on the old card.

    I also bought the dame card around Feb and crossing my figures as it's also on the ek blocks ;)
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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/28 14:58:27 (permalink)
    loveha
    Just slap the cooler on the card. Don't worry about the thermal pads. Just stick a note on the card they aren't there.

    And get charged $45 or have it rejected and sent back to you.
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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/28 15:19:56 (permalink)
    Because they put pads that are not reusable on their cards? They would get a pissed off customer on the phone lol.
    When I pulled my card apart for my block, most the pads were destroyed. If you want to call them pads, was more like a thick grey thermal paste. If they want cards with thermal pads on return, then they can get better quality material.
    $45 or return for missing thermal pads. What a joke.

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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/28 16:59:24 (permalink)
    loveha
    $45 or return for missing thermal pads. What a joke.

    Well, it's true.
    It is a sad joke.
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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/28 19:40:26 (permalink)
    Putty is 9.99 and will do several pastings,  a new set of pads is 10$ from evga , if your careful and you just put a block on it , should be able to save the pads, and you will have new material when you get your RMA card if you still want to re block it, just put it back like stock and you wont have any problems.
     It's less money to do it right than sending in a substandard core,  If you say f it and throw the card together haphazardly , get ready to face the music.


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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/28 19:51:28 (permalink)
    kraade
    Putty is 9.99 and will do several pastings,  a new set of pads is 10$ from evga , if your careful and you just put a block on it , should be able to save the pads, and you will have new material when you get your RMA card if you still want to re block it, just put it back like stock and you wont have any problems.
     It's less money to do it right than sending in a substandard core,  If you say f it and throw the card together haphazardly , get ready to face the music.

    Yeah, do it right, do it yourself for cheaper, then send it to EVGA. They'll tear it apart, destroy your work -- it's completely pointless (because they won't be able to reuse your beautiful work of art) -- but at least you won't be charged a ridiculous fee for missing pads on a dead card that they might throw in the scrap barrel anyway.
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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/28 20:25:37 (permalink)
    The OP said the PSU was part of the problem. How exactly was it part of the problem? Is there an issue with that PSU model particularly? Unless it’s a model-related issue, as in it’s known to cause problems, I don’t see how 1200W couldn’t handle a 3090 along with everything else listed. I’m wondering if the BeQuiet PSU didn’t end up being a lemon. What I can suggest is double-checking all PSU connections on both ends, or try reconnecting to EVGA PSU if it’s still known to work (or any other known-working PSU). Doesn’t have to be installed as though it would be in the case permanently. It could be “Frankensteined” just to get everything to run off of it.


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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/29 07:19:54 (permalink)
    my dude, you literality told us the prelude to your problem, and then you tell us you troubled shoot all other course of action before focusing on the GPU? PSU was NEVER a problem, it was brought up by fanboys to deflect the issue away from EVGA's poor quality in their Top tier gpu...
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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/29 12:40:58 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the replies.
     
    Yes. I've tested with several other PSUs now, including a Phanteks RevolvX 1000W and the others stated. Yes, I think the eVGA P2 1200w is unstable with the 3090. I tested this last year. The Bequiet and Phanteks both solved some stability issues I was having. Anybody who thinks that nVidia's 3090 runs at the stated power specs and doesn't peak at high load is........well high as a kite. The 3090 is the worst high end card since fermi.
     
    At the end of the day, I just got a LiguidDevil 6950XT and will RMA this card. If they deny it, I'll chalk it up to lesson learned and not buy evga again. Pretty simple.
     
    Thanks again for the input.
    post edited by LancerV1 - 2022/05/29 12:42:33
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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/29 13:42:36 (permalink)
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    Thanks for all the replies.
     
    Yes. I've tested with several other PSUs now, including a Phanteks RevolvX 1000W and the others stated. Yes, I think the eVGA P2 1200w is unstable with the 3090. I tested this last year. The Bequiet and Phanteks both solved some stability issues I was having. Anybody who thinks that nVidia's 3090 runs at the stated power specs and doesn't peak at high load is........well high as a kite. The 3090 is the worst high end card since fermi.
     
    At the end of the day, I just got a LiguidDevil 6950XT and will RMA this card. If they deny it, I'll chalk it up to lesson learned and not buy evga again. Pretty simple.
     
    Thanks again for the input.




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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/29 13:58:15 (permalink)
    Nice cherry pick.
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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/30 15:50:54 (permalink)
    No one has been able to point to PSUs that wont work and to ones that are more or less perfect for the card.
     
    It's all BS.
     
    If you need to replace a perfectly operational 1200W PSU to get your 3090 to run stable then what you actually should have done is just send back the 3090 because it wasn't stable.
     
    Gold, platinum and titanium are NOT quality indicators. They are efficiency ratings. There is nothing about titanium efficiency that makes it better at handling transient load spikes or whatever other BS people want to blame when the problem is the card. 
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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/30 17:06:29 (permalink)
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    Nice cherry pick.


    Nope. Pretty typical.
    https://www.techpowerup.c...0-xt-reference-design/
     
    If you have an argument, show us something else besides, neener neener.
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    No one has been able to point to PSUs that wont work and to ones that are more or less perfect for the card.
     
    It's all BS.
     
    If you need to replace a perfectly operational 1200W PSU to get your 3090 to run stable then what you actually should have done is just send back the 3090 because it wasn't stable.
     
    Gold, platinum and titanium are NOT quality indicators. They are efficiency ratings. There is nothing about titanium efficiency that makes it better at handling transient load spikes or whatever other BS people want to blame when the problem is the card. 


     
    Well... this is somewhat true. If you have a quality 1200 watt PSU or any recommended rating by the manufacturer, it should have no issues with any current GPU on the market.
    Platinum efficiency generally requires better design and higher quality components. This does not guarantee you won't have issues with a  Platinum rated GPU, it just means you're more likely to have stability issues with a Bronze rated PSU versus a higher rated PSU. Personally I don't know why some people cheap out on the one component that, if it goes bad, can take out the rest of your system.
    I've never regretted the few extra dollars I shelled out for the AX 1200 that is powering my 3080 Ti just fine.
     
    post edited by HeavyHemi - 2022/05/30 17:13:54

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    Re: FTW3 3090 Ultra Gaming just died......so here's the thing. 2022/05/30 17:38:18 (permalink)
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    [Personally I don't know why some people cheap out on the one component that, if it goes bad, can take out the rest of your system.

    So, do you think their 1200 watt platinum PSU was "cheaping out" and that is why they had to upgrade to a 1500 watt titanium to make the card work properly for a while?
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