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Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2

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2019/04/11 17:08:05 (permalink)
Hello, I have a dark x299, I7-7800X, 2 gtx 980ti kimping and 2x250 gb samsung 970 evo, I can not make raid 0. It is for the 28 lines of the I7-7800X ?. I can not raid 0 using the motherboard chip, it only enables me by cpu, it shows me only one m.2 in the bios ... In Windows it shows me the two units.
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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/11 17:50:27 (permalink)
    Hello martinorta! Do you have a VROC key installed already? You might find our VROC RAID FAQ helpful and is linked here: http://www.evga.com/support/faq/?f=59720

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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/11 18:48:45 (permalink)
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    Hello martinorta! Do you have a VROC key installed already? You might find our VROC RAID FAQ helpful and is linked here: . 


     
    I do not have a vroc key installed, I wanted to do it for Intel's Rapid Storage Technology Software
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    2. Can RAID be configured in Windows using the Intel's Rapid Storage Technology Software, like RAID being configured in the UEFI BIOS? If so, will the RAID array that is created be bootable?
     
    A. Both BIOS and Windows via RST can be used to build a RAID array. If you want the RAID to be bootable, all of the M.2 Devices will need to be on the same VMD Controllers. See image below.
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    But when using two video cards, (vmd1) PCIEX16_1 does not cancel the video card?
    I wanted to use raid or Intel's Rapid Storage Technology Software but I did not want to do it!
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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/11 19:45:39 (permalink)

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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 00:08:47 (permalink)
    He wanna raid on Samsung 970s M2 ? I don't think you can raid even with Vroc key on Samsung m2. This Dark board raids only on specific intel drive ??? I did try on 2x512  SS 970 pro nvm M2 with VROC key it didn't see any drive at all ( bios 1.14). Then I buy 2x 512 Intel 7600 pro nvm ( not 760p) for my raid0 and it worked.! this Dark board is very picky on M2 thirparty drive
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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 00:16:38 (permalink)
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    He wanna raid on Samsung 970s M2 ? I don't think you can raid even with Vroc key on Samsung m2. This Dark board raids only on specific intel drive ??? I did try on 2x512  SS 970 pro nvm M2 with VROC key it didn't see any drive at all ( bios 1.14). Then I buy 2x 512 Intel 7600 pro nvm ( not 760p) for my raid0 and it worked.! this Dark board is very picky on M2 thirparty drive

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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 05:19:18 (permalink)
    Hello, but it does not let me make raid 0 with the intel controller, as if it were a z370 ... I mean, doing it by the chip on the board does not use the processor channels ... It does not let me build a raid 0 by software! !
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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 07:10:52 (permalink)
    What I want is to build a raid 0 with the controller, but even that does not leave me, it does not detect me in the second connector m.2 the other unit 970 evo
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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 08:49:44 (permalink)
    Location of the m. two

    https://i.imgur.com/7UrXOEJ.jpg
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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 10:35:26 (permalink)
    I use the two M.2 Slots between the PCIe Slots and the back one is not used or has a 32GB Optane Memory M.2 Installed

     

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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 14:31:52 (permalink)
    In my case, it does not let me do raid 0 with the irst controller
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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 15:19:08 (permalink)
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    In my case, it does not let me do raid 0 with the irst controller

    It never will on the X299 Dark Motherboard, we have lots of Threads and FAQ about this.

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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 15:38:29 (permalink)
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    In my case, it does not let me do raid 0 with the irst controller

    It never will on the X299 Dark Motherboard, we have lots of Threads and FAQ about this.


    I was reading all the post on raid 0, but the x299 dark does not bring two controllers: the intel and the asmedia? Why could not I do raid 0 with irst? if or if you have to have the vroc key? or it will be incompatible with the m.2 samsung 970 evo .... because if I use the irst controller it would not occupy the channels of the i7-7800x, I would be doing a raid 0 as if it were a z390 board ... or I directly install a samsung 512gb evo plus ...
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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 15:43:03 (permalink)
    It would be the same issue on the Z390 Platform as well using the (NVMe Only) M.2 Ports/Slots and not the Raid SATA Ports.

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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 16:06:07 (permalink)
    If you are not using a VROC key, then most likely it is the Samsung drives that are not compatible. As per information posted on the Intel website https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000024550/memory-and-storage.html:
     
    I found RAID0 works without Intel VROC hardware key. But the product brief says I need VROC hardware key for RAID0. What should I do?

    An Intel® VROC HW Key is required to use RAID 0/1/5/10 for most SSDs. However, Intel VROC is also designed to provide RAID0 for Intel PCIe Gen3 x8 SSDs without requiring HW key. For instance: Intel® SSD DC P3608 Series. For any other regular x4 SSDs, without HW key, RAID0 might work, might not work. In short, an Intel VROC HW Key is required for official support for RAID0 with regular PCIe Gen3 x4 SSDs. Operating RAID0 in this situation is done at the risk of the user.
     
    Technically, you can make a VROC RAID 0 without a VROC key but only if you have specific Intel SSDs. Otherwise, you will need a VROC key.

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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 16:26:44 (permalink)
    But the key vroc is when you want to raid 0 using the lines of the processor, what I mean is to use the irst controller, in an asus apex vi x299 I could do raid 0 without the key vroc ...
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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/12 19:16:17 (permalink)
    He was reading in the forum that the intel 760p can work in raid 0 can it be?
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    Re: Evga dark and raid 0 with m.2 2019/04/13 09:21:13 (permalink)
    Things to look out for

    If you see something like:
    1 x M.2 connector blah blah blah PCIe x4/x2 SSD support

    1 x M.2 connector blah blah blah SATA and PCIe x4 support

    This likely means that the first connector is hooked to the CPU lanes and the second one is hooked to the chipset lanes.

    If you see a board with 4 PCIE X16 slots and one of them has a footnote that a specific one of them is disabled or drops to a slower speed if something is plugged into a specific M.2 slot, that likely means that those 2 specific slots (PCIE X16 and M.2) share CPU lanes (and also possibly that other M.2 slots on that board hook to the chipset instead).
    Bottom Line

    If you're like me and are adding up the PCIE lane requirements of various devices you want to connect, it's not just a matter of making sure you don't exceed the max CPU lanes or that the motherboard has enough slots, it's also critical to understand whether those slots are hooked to the CPU or the chipset.

    I really wish motherboard mfgs would release block diagrams so we could know with 100% certainty before making a purchase.

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