gerrokarp35
Good evening, I don't know if this is the right thead for this, but I cannot see my EVGA score anywhere on my profile page (eu account)

https://www.evga.com/myevga/
 

I have a score of 3, I guess that puts me at the lowest tier.
If I'm understanding queue 3.0 correctly, people that already bough a 30 series card are supposed to de-prioritized, but that doesn't seem to be the case so far. Also timestamps still count as they did in queue 2.0, I think timestamps should've been dropped as a slightly later timestamp later can mean months of waiting if your score is lower.

GTXJackBauer

Sajin

ssj92

Sajin

aka_STEVE_b

In my case it’s over 40,000. 41558 to be exact. 😁😎

I can't even beat Yamcha. Score is only 195 lol 

🤣😂

Congrats on your 46K total post too. 

Thanks. 😊

EU user here
One 30 series card from last year and one PSU from last year
Score: 0

zokeszt
EU user here
One 30 series card from last year and one PSU from last year
Score: 0

EVGA stated EU members will see their scores in a few days.

EVGA Score： 1436

I'm a 59...  but not complaining.  I managed to get a 3090FE for me, and I bought an EVGA 3070 for my son.  Plus, an 850W EVGA PS.   Good luck to all!

Out of curiosity, how are people getting scores of 1000+ ?
 
Have 1 qualifying purchase this score period, a 2070 Super Ultra XC+, so definitely didn't think would be anywhere close to big on points or anything like that, but I see my EVGA score = 6
 
So if I have just 6 points buying a reasonably high mid-range card, would that mean something like equivalent of 150+ purchases of this same tier? Or do points earned from activities, bucks, etc massively outweigh actual purchase points?

jacozilla
Out of curiosity, how are people getting scores of 1000+ ?
 
Have 1 qualifying purchase this score period, a 2070 Super Ultra XC+, so definitely didn't think would be anywhere close to big on points or anything like that, but I see my EVGA score = 6
 
So if I have just 6 points buying a reasonably high mid-range card, would that mean something like equivalent of 150+ purchases of this same tier? Or do points earned from activities, bucks, etc massively outweigh actual purchase points?

Its almost like the system rewards miners who bought a lot of cards recently...

I have a RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, and EVGA SuperNOVA 850 T2, 80+ TITANIUM 850W, Fully Mo and a EVGA CLC 280mm All-In-One RGB LED CPU Liquid Cooler registered not to mention all the products i have registered  before the 2019 cutoff and i have a 0 score.  What's going on. Do i need to have purchased a 30 series card to get any points. Good luck with that. 

That would seem massively unfair. Again, not complaining I am not higher on score - and I know you said only guessing, but if that guess is anywhere close to ballpark or even order of magnitude correct, then system is broken.
 
Because my purchase was ~$650 - for 6 EVGA points. That means ~ 1 point per ~$108 spent.
 
If $1 of referral evga bucks gets 2 evga points or anything close to that ballpark/magnitude, that implies 1 EVGA point per 0.50 cents referred (vs needing to spend ~$108 in purchase for that same 1 point)
 
I have to assume it can't be that broken, and the high scores are from just tons of equipment purchases, although 150+ purchases of ~$650+ each item seems excessive for a 'normal' person over 3yr score period

jacozilla
That would seem massively unfair. Again, not complaining I am not higher on score - and I know you said only guessing, but if that guess is anywhere close to ballpark or even order of magnitude correct, then system is broken.
 
Because my purchase was ~$650 - for 6 EVGA points. That means ~ 1 point per ~$108 spent.
 
If $1 of referral evga bucks gets 2 evga points or anything close to that ballpark/magnitude, that implies 1 EVGA point per 0.50 cents referred (vs needing to spend ~$108 in purchase for that same 1 point)
 
I have to assume it can't be that broken, and the high scores are from just tons of equipment purchases, although 150+ purchases of ~$650+ each item seems excessive for a 'normal' person over 3yr score period

Another reason this new system will benefit bots and scalpers: multiple accounts for self referrals = easy cards at launch. 

1. Spend ~$1000-500 now on an alt account, using another as a referrer to get 500 score on referrer account.
(Which is far greater than most loyal customers buying GPU upgrades for one or two home PCs)
2. Sell the junk items, even if its at a small loss, in the long run it saves money to buy a 4000 series day 1
3. Buy 3000/4000 series card/s on these high evga scoring accounts which will jump to the front of the queue 3.0 system.
4. Resell 3000/4000 series cards on ebay for a large profit.

Rinse and repeat for multiple accounts, for however many GPUs you want to scalp.

Result: most of the 4000 series will sell to those bots and alt accounts IE scalpers, further denying the real users like us. And as a bonus to EVGA they clear out hard to sell inventory.


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bill1024

markiller

jacozilla
That would seem massively unfair. Again, not complaining I am not higher on score - and I know you said only guessing, but if that guess is anywhere close to ballpark or even order of magnitude correct, then system is broken.
 
Because my purchase was ~$650 - for 6 EVGA points. That means ~ 1 point per ~$108 spent.
 
If $1 of referral evga bucks gets 2 evga points or anything close to that ballpark/magnitude, that implies 1 EVGA point per 0.50 cents referred (vs needing to spend ~$108 in purchase for that same 1 point)
 
I have to assume it can't be that broken, and the high scores are from just tons of equipment purchases, although 150+ purchases of ~$650+ each item seems excessive for a 'normal' person over 3yr score period

Another reason this new system will benefit bots and scalpers: multiple accounts for self referrals = easy cards at launch. 

1. Spend ~$1000-500 now on an alt account, using another as a referrer to get 500 score on referrer account.
(Which is far greater than most loyal customers buying GPU upgrades for one or two home PCs)
2. Sell the junk items,  even if its at a small loss, in the long run it saves money to buy a 4000 series day 1
3. Buy 3000/4000 series card/s on high evga scoring accounts.
4. Resell 3000/4000 series cards on ebay for a large profit.

Rinse and repeat for multiple accounts, for however many GPUs you want to scalp.

Result: most of the 4000 series will sell to those bots and alt accounts IE scalpers, further denying the real users like us. And as a bonus to EVGA they clear out hard to sell inventory.


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I doubt you will get past EVGAs bot protection and they will not send two of the same SKUs to the same address
So that ain’t going to happen

Work Address
Moms Address
Sisters Address
Friends Address
That Guy Joe who owes me a favor's address
Maybe a PO Box
...

Need I go on, that's potentially $500-$2000+ profit per address after the first per SKU if 4000 series launch is anything like the current....

avacdavison
I have some idea at what EVGA is trying to do here - get the cards into the hands of customers who will actually use the cards for gaming, as opposed to miners and scalpers. And given the bots that both those groups use, deprioritizing notification date position does help with that. However, I wonder if the ultimate implementation causes just as many, or more, problems for those not part of the elite influencers.
 
In the old system, if you aren't someone who gets lots of ribbons, or refer lots of people, or get your associate's code used tons, you could have a chance at a card if you got in early enough. Not a great chance (given bots), but still a chance. Now, if your EVGA score is low, you may very well have a closer to zero chance than you had before. Also, limiting the product influence on a score to the past 3 years means that a lot of people may not have their products make a difference at all, given that from my experience, most people wait at least 3-4 years between getting GPUs (which are the highest-ticket items and thus, influence the score the most). 
 
If the severe supply crunch only lasts another year or two, then the queue will become far less important. However, if the lack of supply is here to stay due to the scalper culture (which has now even spread to foodstuffs), then if you don't get high-ticket items and are not an major presence on the forums, you stay at the bottom of the list, with no significant way to get out. Thus rendering Queue 3.0 useless for such people.
 
When I put in notifications for 30-series cards at launch, I was very focused - which card did I want, and at what price point. Thus, I went for the 3080 XCs. At the time, I had no idea that they would end up being produced in such minimal quantities due to profit margin. Once I found out about that, it was too late to get onto queues for similar level cards and have a significant chance at getting a card. Even after adding notifications for other cards did not bring me much closer to a card. Also, another limitation for me is that it doesn't make much sense to get a card that's weaker than my current one (a 2070 normal). That means right now, a 3070 or higher. I eventually cancelled all of my notifies, due to concerns of needing money for more important things like debt, rent, car payments, etc. However, I have been keeping track of the notify listings (Thanks, enewt! :D), and have seen that my other notifies haven't progressed much.
 
One other concern I have is that the 30-series will go EoL once the 40-series comes out, and then we have to wait all over again. Thus, always ending up and staying at the bottom of the list. 
 
The question then comes in - what to do about it? Getting into Q3 costs nothing, and involves minimal effort as an Elite Member (which I am). However, it also means that the chance of the queue getting to me is exceedingly small given the scores we've seen from less than 24 hours of sampling. Then, would using stock-alert sites/addons be more effective? I have researched them, and it appears that the only one that focuses on back-in-stock alerts is going dark this week, leaving a bunch of coupon-primary addons that don't really tell you how to do back-in-stock alerts. I have signed up for a website that does do stock alerts, but they warn you might get late, or no alerts. 
 
I do want to continue being an EVGA customer (been one since 2011/2012). However, with The Scalper Life active, and the new queue (I am glad that EVGA does something at least, unlike the other AIBs), I might not get the chance to do so.

I feel the exact same way as you do. There was another post earlier in this thread that had a couple other points in it that are good additions, but right now I don’t even care enough to bother going back to quote or list them now.

I’ve got 2 Q2 notifies active for 3080 cards. 1 from Sept 16, 2020, and another from a couple weeks later. I’ve said it a couple days ago, and I’ll say it again. Because I saw the writing on the wall when they announced the Q 3.0 rules: I didn’t have much hope before Q3 of ever getting anything, and I have even less hope with Q 3.0.

I can tell some people at EVGA put a lot of thought into this, that’s quite apparent by the number of people that are confused about the new rules … it’s much complicated than previous queue versions. But it is still far from a perfect solution.

I did get an Xbox Series X during launch though. So I can just say “Bye” to PC gaming and switch to that platform. At least with a GamePass sub I can still have access to some PC games via cross-platforming.

I’ll still leave my 2 notifies active in the Q 2.0 system. I’ll forget about the Q 3.0 system entirely … not even gonna bother … why would I? (Rhetorically, BTW.) My prediction is: that another 10+ years from now, my two notifies will still be sitting there with a “No” for “Notification Sent”. It’ll be a source of amusement for me at that point, assuming they aren’t completely removed by EVGA for some reason before then.

markiller

bill1024

markiller

jacozilla
That would seem massively unfair. Again, not complaining I am not higher on score - and I know you said only guessing, but if that guess is anywhere close to ballpark or even order of magnitude correct, then system is broken.

Because my purchase was ~$650 - for 6 EVGA points. That means ~ 1 point per ~$108 spent.

If $1 of referral evga bucks gets 2 evga points or anything close to that ballpark/magnitude, that implies 1 EVGA point per 0.50 cents referred (vs needing to spend ~$108 in purchase for that same 1 point)

I have to assume it can't be that broken, and the high scores are from just tons of equipment purchases, although 150+ purchases of ~$650+ each item seems excessive for a 'normal' person over 3yr score period

Another reason this new system will benefit bots and scalpers: multiple accounts for self referrals = easy cards at launch. 

1. Spend ~$1000-500 now on an alt account, using another as a referrer to get 500 score on referrer account.
(Which is far greater than most loyal customers buying GPU upgrades for one or two home PCs)
2. Sell the junk items,  even if its at a small loss, in the long run it saves money to buy a 4000 series day 1
3. Buy 3000/4000 series card/s on high evga scoring accounts.
4. Resell 3000/4000 series cards on ebay for a large profit.

Rinse and repeat for multiple accounts, for however many GPUs you want to scalp.

Result: most of the 4000 series will sell to those bots and alt accounts IE scalpers, further denying the real users like us. And as a bonus to EVGA they clear out hard to sell inventory.


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I doubt you will get past EVGAs bot protection and they will not send two of the same SKUs to the same address
So that ain’t going to happen

Work Address
Moms Address
Sisters Address
Friends Address
That Guy Joe who owes me a favor's address
Maybe a PO Box
...

Need I go on, that's potentially $500-$2000+ profit per address after the first per SKU if 4000 series launch is anything like the current....

I suppose if someone is desperate enough for money that bad they have to have their mother sister brother aunt and uncle make accounts and buy video cards for them then there is not a lot EVGA can do

But Karma is a female dog and she has a away of turning around and biting people in the bum