joshy2000
It's all supply and demand.  When anyone (including companies) can charge a premium for stuff,  they will. Only until the shortage of semiconductors is resolved will things go back to somewhat normal.

And that can take some time.

Things like this disgust me...

whack, I need some gpus

trfs2010
It blows my mind that they can’t find a solution for scalpers

You can't. 

These people probably buy business tags for like $150, claim they do everything from home, get approved in whatever city / state they're from, and just call up companies like NVidia, EVGA, etc, and ask for stock to fill their "inventory". 

From EVGA's eyes and a legal point, they're a legitimate company even though we all know they're just dirty scalpers.

austin86

nikazz1993

SleepAgreeable
How are they able to bulk buy all those GPUs and how much are they paying per GPU. 

1.Pretend to be a business
2. Contact a distributor and purchase a pallet of GPU's
3. ???
4. Profit

At the scale they are selling they are more of less a business.
 
 
 
TBH I don't really see the problem here, it seems people are more then willing to pay the high prices and I'm sure "scalpers" bought the cards by legal means so they are 100% in their right to sell the cards at what ever price they want. Its not like GPUs are a necessity like food or gas, they aren't a regulated product so they are free to ask what ever price they want and sell them at what ever price the market is willing to pay. Dose it suck, sure, if you don't have the extra cash to buy the cards or time to get one from a more stander retail outlet. But its not like you have to have a modern GPU today. One buy a older card like a 5xx or 6xx or 7xx card and wait for the prices to fall if you don't like the market right now.

You're right, it's legal technically, and GPU's are in no way a necessity (unless you use one professionally for work), and anyone who purchases any product can use it as they see fit. BUT it's still a scummy tactic. Maybe it doesn't matter to scalpers what some rando's(like me) say about them on some forum, but it doesn't change the fact that buying a mountain of GPU's to resell them at 3x the price is still a ****ty thing to do. We're all going to be fine if we don't get our hands on the latest cards, but also don't expect people to be sitting here, praising scalpers just because its 'legal'.

Wow that's terrible .... sucks for some that are just trying to get a gpu at msrp

I hate these scalpers just as much as everyone else, but at least not everyone is participating. I've seen really reasonable prices at best buy, here in Germany every store is participating in scalping... the only cards not sold for outrageous prices are either directly from Nvidia or EVGA. All the other brands don't sell directly to consumers, so all the stores mark up the price by an insane amount... 

Remember when you could enter any online store and just buy the card you want? Seems like not so long ago...

They should really limit ordering to one single GPU per person/credit card/address.

Frankly it wouldn't hurt to target supply chain ethics either here, but a lot of this is just opportunity. When there's no real protection by most sellers against bots/scalpers this is what's going to happen. It's like most forms of white collar crime, if it's easy to do and profitable a disturbing number of people will just do it.

austin86

savonfou

austin86

nikazz1993

SleepAgreeable
How are they able to bulk buy all those GPUs and how much are they paying per GPU. 

1.Pretend to be a business
2. Contact a distributor and purchase a pallet of GPU's
3. ???
4. Profit

At the scale they are selling they are more of less a business.
 
 
 
TBH I don't really see the problem here, it seems people are more then willing to pay the high prices and I'm sure "scalpers" bought the cards by legal means so they are 100% in their right to sell the cards at what ever price they want. Its not like GPUs are a necessity like food or gas, they aren't a regulated product so they are free to ask what ever price they want and sell them at what ever price the market is willing to pay. Dose it suck, sure, if you don't have the extra cash to buy the cards or time to get one from a more stander retail outlet. But its not like you have to have a modern GPU today. One buy a older card like a 5xx or 6xx or 7xx card and wait for the prices to fall if you don't like the market right now.

Scalpers don't provide a service. They don't manufacture the cards. They don't add any value. 
It's not the market's fault they choose to be parasites

The same could be said about stores like amazon or newegg.
 

I mean the context matters.  Not all middle men are parasitic.  The role of middle men retailers is to help sellers find buyers.  It's easy to illustrate with like a niche product like industrial lighting.  Manufacturers aren't good at the customer-facing stuff, so that's handled by a market in between.  And Amazon/Newegg/BB/etc. serve that role too.
 
Like if you've ever tried buying from Asus's store, you know it sucks.  They don't know how to deal with customers.  
 
But people selling **** on eBay aren't doing that at all.  They're a middle man between middle men and they provide zero value added for their service.  Amazon already gets your product to you faster and with better customer service/reliability than someone on eBay.  If a genie could bankrupt every eBay re-seller on the planet, nothing of value would be lost besides their minor impact on their local economy.  Doing that for Amazon/Newegg/etc. would be disastrous for manufacturers and a huge pain in the ass for customers.

I'm proud to say I've never supported the scalper industry. It's difficult when you so desperately need a new graphics card but it is what it is.

 
EBay is such a huge scam site though - chances are if you bought one, you'd receive a 3D printed model of a 3080 and the seller would have disappeared with your money.

Ebay is not the only problem though :(

GGDadLife

austin86

Nereus
EBay is such a huge scam site though - chances are if you bought one, you'd receive a 3D printed model of a 3080 and the seller would have disappeared with your money.

I buy a lot a on eBay and when it comes to PC parts its scam central. I have had good luck with car parts tho.

It is scam central both way though. I've had friends get scammed out of money because the buyer said they sent them an empty box. Ebay will usually side with the buyer. Ebay in general is a sh*t show.

Exactly. I've sold 3 items on EBay this year (a CPU and 2 motherboards), and both of the motherboard buyers disputed the sale saying the motherboards didn't work - both complete BS as I even had photos of them working right before I sold them. The first guy I gave half the money back because I felt sorry for him, even though it was clear he broke the board himself (in hindsight I should have told him to take a hike), but then the other guy tried it on but he just missed his 30 day return period so I said no way - it was a mint condition ASUS ROG Z390 Maximus XI Code motherboard in perfect working order, and he claimed A2 error (which is a hard drive error anyway!). I've had several issues with being scammed as a buyer too. With the high shipping costs and then EBay taking 13.5% of not only the purchase price but ALSO the shipping cost, I think in future I might just throw stuff out rather than deal with EBay scammers.