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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/28 06:05:22 (permalink)
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It's all supply and demand.  When anyone (including companies) can charge a premium for stuff,  they will. Only until the shortage of semiconductors is resolved will things go back to somewhat normal.


And that can take some time.

  
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/28 06:13:59 (permalink)
A long time :-(
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/28 06:26:46 (permalink)
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How are they able to bulk buy all those GPUs and how much are they paying per GPU. 


1.Pretend to be a business
2. Contact a distributor and purchase a pallet of GPU's
3. ???
4. Profit


At the scale they are selling they are more of less a business.
 
 
 
TBH I don't really see the problem here, it seems people are more then willing to pay the high prices and I'm sure "scalpers" bought the cards by legal means so they are 100% in their right to sell the cards at what ever price they want. Its not like GPUs are a necessity like food or gas, they aren't a regulated product so they are free to ask what ever price they want and sell them at what ever price the market is willing to pay. Dose it suck, sure, if you don't have the extra cash to buy the cards or time to get one from a more stander retail outlet. But its not like you have to have a modern GPU today. One buy a older card like a 5xx or 6xx or 7xx card and wait for the prices to fall if you don't like the market right now.
post edited by austin86 - 2021/05/28 06:43:05
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/28 06:54:46 (permalink)
Things like this disgust me...
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/28 07:22:38 (permalink)
Sadly this will Not gonna change soon....
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/28 10:00:02 (permalink)
whack, I need some gpus
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/28 15:20:44 (permalink)
It blows my mind that they can’t find a solution for scalpers
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/28 16:08:07 (permalink)
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It blows my mind that they can’t find a solution for scalpers


You can't. 

These people probably buy business tags for like $150, claim they do everything from home, get approved in whatever city / state they're from, and just call up companies like NVidia, EVGA, etc, and ask for stock to fill their "inventory". 

From EVGA's eyes and a legal point, they're a legitimate company even though we all know they're just dirty scalpers.
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/28 16:13:55 (permalink)
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It blows my mind that they can’t find a solution for scalpers


You can't. 

These people probably buy business tags for like $150, claim they do everything from home, get approved in whatever city / state they're from, and just call up companies like NVidia, EVGA, etc, and ask for stock to fill their "inventory". 

From EVGA's eyes and a legal point, they're a legitimate company even though we all know they're just dirty scalpers.




I think its more complex than that. No way its that easy to get ur hands on so many GPUs. That would be hear tbreaking to all of the people who are trying to get one in a legitimate way.
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/29 10:09:55 (permalink)
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How are they able to bulk buy all those GPUs and how much are they paying per GPU. 


1.Pretend to be a business
2. Contact a distributor and purchase a pallet of GPU's
3. ???
4. Profit


At the scale they are selling they are more of less a business.
 
 
 
TBH I don't really see the problem here, it seems people are more then willing to pay the high prices and I'm sure "scalpers" bought the cards by legal means so they are 100% in their right to sell the cards at what ever price they want. Its not like GPUs are a necessity like food or gas, they aren't a regulated product so they are free to ask what ever price they want and sell them at what ever price the market is willing to pay. Dose it suck, sure, if you don't have the extra cash to buy the cards or time to get one from a more stander retail outlet. But its not like you have to have a modern GPU today. One buy a older card like a 5xx or 6xx or 7xx card and wait for the prices to fall if you don't like the market right now.




You're right, it's legal technically, and GPU's are in no way a necessity (unless you use one professionally for work), and anyone who purchases any product can use it as they see fit. BUT it's still a scummy tactic. Maybe it doesn't matter to scalpers what some rando's(like me) say about them on some forum, but it doesn't change the fact that buying a mountain of GPU's to resell them at 3x the price is still a ****ty thing to do. We're all going to be fine if we don't get our hands on the latest cards, but also don't expect people to be sitting here, praising scalpers just because its 'legal'.

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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/29 10:28:27 (permalink)
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How are they able to bulk buy all those GPUs and how much are they paying per GPU. 


1.Pretend to be a business
2. Contact a distributor and purchase a pallet of GPU's
3. ???
4. Profit


At the scale they are selling they are more of less a business.
 
 
 
TBH I don't really see the problem here, it seems people are more then willing to pay the high prices and I'm sure "scalpers" bought the cards by legal means so they are 100% in their right to sell the cards at what ever price they want. Its not like GPUs are a necessity like food or gas, they aren't a regulated product so they are free to ask what ever price they want and sell them at what ever price the market is willing to pay. Dose it suck, sure, if you don't have the extra cash to buy the cards or time to get one from a more stander retail outlet. But its not like you have to have a modern GPU today. One buy a older card like a 5xx or 6xx or 7xx card and wait for the prices to fall if you don't like the market right now.





Scalpers don't provide a service. They don't manufacture the cards. They don't add any value. 
It's not the market's fault they choose to be parasites
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/29 10:39:47 (permalink)
Wow that's terrible .... sucks for some that are just trying to get a gpu at msrp
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/29 13:45:04 (permalink)
Disgusting, I have been looking for a card for months and these people are abusing our gpus.


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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/29 13:45:34 (permalink)
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How are they able to bulk buy all those GPUs and how much are they paying per GPU. 


1.Pretend to be a business
2. Contact a distributor and purchase a pallet of GPU's
3. ???
4. Profit


At the scale they are selling they are more of less a business.
 
 
 
TBH I don't really see the problem here, it seems people are more then willing to pay the high prices and I'm sure "scalpers" bought the cards by legal means so they are 100% in their right to sell the cards at what ever price they want. Its not like GPUs are a necessity like food or gas, they aren't a regulated product so they are free to ask what ever price they want and sell them at what ever price the market is willing to pay. Dose it suck, sure, if you don't have the extra cash to buy the cards or time to get one from a more stander retail outlet. But its not like you have to have a modern GPU today. One buy a older card like a 5xx or 6xx or 7xx card and wait for the prices to fall if you don't like the market right now.





Scalpers don't provide a service. They don't manufacture the cards. They don't add any value. 
It's not the market's fault they choose to be parasites


The same could be said about stores like amazon or newegg.
TBH the whole scalper thing is nothing compared to what the retro PC enthusiasts go though so maybe I'm a little bias. we been dealing with scalpers way long before this chip shortage and far at a far worse rate. Try being one of 20+ folks fighting over high end 90s hardware that sometimes only come up for sale once or twice a year on eBay. Then your see the 100+ cards on being bid over MSRP as not being so bad. We all like to complain about the problem, but so many are willing to pay the scalper prices that its not going away any day soon, this happens with every new tech, its just worse this time around do to the chip shortage and bots being more accessible.
post edited by austin86 - 2021/05/29 13:49:23
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/29 13:57:57 (permalink)
I hate these scalpers just as much as everyone else, but at least not everyone is participating. I've seen really reasonable prices at best buy, here in Germany every store is participating in scalping... the only cards not sold for outrageous prices are either directly from Nvidia or EVGA. All the other brands don't sell directly to consumers, so all the stores mark up the price by an insane amount... 
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/30 12:51:28 (permalink)
Scalpers sucks man! I just want one for my RIG...
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/30 13:52:38 (permalink)
Remember when you could enter any online store and just buy the card you want? Seems like not so long ago...
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/30 21:00:45 (permalink)
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Remember when you could enter any online store and just buy the card you want? Seems like not so long ago...


2019 was so long ago
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/31 04:39:16 (permalink)
They should really limit ordering to one single GPU per person/credit card/address.
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/31 08:21:56 (permalink)
as long as miners pay
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/05/31 12:53:42 (permalink)
Frankly it wouldn't hurt to target supply chain ethics either here, but a lot of this is just opportunity. When there's no real protection by most sellers against bots/scalpers this is what's going to happen. It's like most forms of white collar crime, if it's easy to do and profitable a disturbing number of people will just do it.
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/06/01 08:52:08 (permalink)
Crypto is really volatile, but it doesn't seem like it's going away any time soon. I do think that demand will ease when Ethereum goes to proof of stake.
 
On the topic of overusing them, I've seen a few tech tubers suggest that even the Silicon does have a usable life, but I imagine that temperature control is the more important bit. Server components run continuously for years at a time, and they're built using the same wafers as consumer CPUs and GPUs. Data centers cool their gear with chilled air, maybe that's the difference.
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/06/01 12:01:39 (permalink)
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How are they able to bulk buy all those GPUs and how much are they paying per GPU. 


1.Pretend to be a business
2. Contact a distributor and purchase a pallet of GPU's
3. ???
4. Profit


At the scale they are selling they are more of less a business.
 
 
 
TBH I don't really see the problem here, it seems people are more then willing to pay the high prices and I'm sure "scalpers" bought the cards by legal means so they are 100% in their right to sell the cards at what ever price they want. Its not like GPUs are a necessity like food or gas, they aren't a regulated product so they are free to ask what ever price they want and sell them at what ever price the market is willing to pay. Dose it suck, sure, if you don't have the extra cash to buy the cards or time to get one from a more stander retail outlet. But its not like you have to have a modern GPU today. One buy a older card like a 5xx or 6xx or 7xx card and wait for the prices to fall if you don't like the market right now.





Scalpers don't provide a service. They don't manufacture the cards. They don't add any value. 
It's not the market's fault they choose to be parasites


The same could be said about stores like amazon or newegg.
 


I mean the context matters.  Not all middle men are parasitic.  The role of middle men retailers is to help sellers find buyers.  It's easy to illustrate with like a niche product like industrial lighting.  Manufacturers aren't good at the customer-facing stuff, so that's handled by a market in between.  And Amazon/Newegg/BB/etc. serve that role too.
 
Like if you've ever tried buying from Asus's store, you know it sucks.  They don't know how to deal with customers.  
 
But people selling **** on eBay aren't doing that at all.  They're a middle man between middle men and they provide zero value added for their service.  Amazon already gets your product to you faster and with better customer service/reliability than someone on eBay.  If a genie could bankrupt every eBay re-seller on the planet, nothing of value would be lost besides their minor impact on their local economy.  Doing that for Amazon/Newegg/etc. would be disastrous for manufacturers and a huge pain in the ass for customers.
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/06/01 12:03:59 (permalink)
At some point we should expect a flood of used cards on the secondary market right?
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/06/01 17:07:22 (permalink)
I'm proud to say I've never supported the scalper industry. It's difficult when you so desperately need a new graphics card but it is what it is.
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/06/01 17:31:19 (permalink)
I mean, there are ways for companies to better clamp down on this if they really wanted to.  A sale is a sale
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/06/01 17:35:37 (permalink)
 
EBay is such a huge scam site though - chances are if you bought one, you'd receive a 3D printed model of a 3080 and the seller would have disappeared with your money.

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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/06/01 17:36:44 (permalink)
We're partly our own worst enemy. Purchasing from these people doesn't help but that, combined with a shortage doesn't help.
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/06/01 17:38:28 (permalink)
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EBay is such a huge scam site though - chances are if you bought one, you'd receive a 3D printed model of a 3080 and the seller would have disappeared with your money.


I buy a lot a on eBay and when it comes to PC parts its scam central. I have had good luck with car parts tho.
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Re: EVGA card scalper store on EBAY , sold 100 or so cards 2021/06/01 17:47:37 (permalink)
Ebay is not the only problem though :(
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