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2021/02/27 20:34:25 (permalink)
Hello forum,
 
After several hours of research and several clean installs of Windows 20H2 installs I've come here. I've finally figured out what's causing me so much headache. I updated Windows 10 1909 to version 20H2 because my system seemed to fail to update past 1909. No errors in Windows updates yet it would never update to version 2004 or 20H2. I also started having issues with the computer entering sleep mode automatically. So I did a clean install. It updated to 20H2.
 
First install I had all networking disconnected and I manually installed the EVGA Z97 Classified Motherboard drivers. Installing the Intel ME driver immediately BSOD the computer forcing recovery and repair options. Unable to get out of a BSOD loop I had to reinstall Windows again. After doing this several times I tried connecting ethernet during the installation... Windows starts doing updates in the background during the installation process and in the middle of it... BSOD! So I assume it was trying to automatically get a driver for this Intel Management Engine Interface during updates.
 
I finally got a stable install by disabling networking during installation, installing all other drivers and then connecting to network... still got a BSOD but the computer went into recovery and actually started up. I was given a message saying some updates were postponed. I did all Windows updates installed all of my programs etc. Did a system image backup since this was about the 10th time I tried installing Windows. Well... I went into device manager to look and sure enough Intel Management Engine was yellow banged under "other devices". Any attempt to click and update it in device manager, uninstall it and restart, or run the EVGA Intel ME driver setup would BSOD the computer causing a hard reset into recovery mode. Or fatal error and then have to reinstall Windows again.
 
So... what's the answer to the riddle? The BIOS. I have the latest BIOS installed... version 2.06. It's supposed to be for security etc. However with Windows 10 20H2 running the latest BIOS there's no way I could figure out how to install the Intel MEI without a BSOD. I even reinstalled the BIOS from USB. I flipped the BIOS switch in my motherboard to the base BIOS 1.0X and it will successfully boot. I was also able to install the Intel ME with no issue while using that bios. What's wrong with that? Well it's not the latest patched BIOS that's supposed to be for security for the processor etc. Also, switching back to BIOS 1 with 2.06 causes a BSOD even after successfully installing the Intel MEI under the base BIOS. 
 
So... EVGA I know this is older hardware but there's a problem here and I'm not the only one who has it... There needs to be a BIOS update for these motherboards. 
post edited by KuntryBoy - 2021/02/27 20:39:35

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    Re: EVGA Z97 CLASSIFIED and Intel Management Engine Interface BSOD because of BIOS 2.06 2021/03/01 05:11:54 (permalink)
    In this case I'll ask that you contact EVGA technical support. 

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    Re: EVGA Z97 CLASSIFIED and Intel Management Engine Interface BSOD because of BIOS 2.06 2021/03/01 12:44:27 (permalink)
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    In this case I'll ask that you contact EVGA technical support. 




    Thanks I have forwarded this post as a ticket to support. Hopefully they can get this sorted. I've seen similar posts on different forums and sites going around. Dealing with this issue. I just nailed down what it was for me and this board. 

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    Re: EVGA Z97 CLASSIFIED and Intel Management Engine Interface BSOD because of BIOS 2.06 2021/03/02 20:36:16 (permalink)
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    Hello forum,
     
    After several hours of research and several clean installs of Windows 20H2 installs I've come here. I've finally figured out what's causing me so much headache. I updated Windows 10 1909 to version 20H2 because my system seemed to fail to update past 1909. No errors in Windows updates yet it would never update to version 2004 or 20H2. I also started having issues with the computer entering sleep mode automatically. So I did a clean install. It updated to 20H2.
     
    First install I had all networking disconnected and I manually installed the EVGA Z97 Classified Motherboard drivers. Installing the Intel ME driver immediately BSOD the computer forcing recovery and repair options. Unable to get out of a BSOD loop I had to reinstall Windows again. After doing this several times I tried connecting ethernet during the installation... Windows starts doing updates in the background during the installation process and in the middle of it... BSOD! So I assume it was trying to automatically get a driver for this Intel Management Engine Interface during updates.
     
    I finally got a stable install by disabling networking during installation, installing all other drivers and then connecting to network... still got a BSOD but the computer went into recovery and actually started up. I was given a message saying some updates were postponed. I did all Windows updates installed all of my programs etc. Did a system image backup since this was about the 10th time I tried installing Windows. Well... I went into device manager to look and sure enough Intel Management Engine was yellow banged under "other devices". Any attempt to click and update it in device manager, uninstall it and restart, or run the EVGA Intel ME driver setup would BSOD the computer causing a hard reset into recovery mode. Or fatal error and then have to reinstall Windows again.
     
    So... what's the answer to the riddle? The BIOS. I have the latest BIOS installed... version 2.06. It's supposed to be for security etc. However with Windows 10 20H2 running the latest BIOS there's no way I could figure out how to install the Intel MEI without a BSOD. I even reinstalled the BIOS from USB. I flipped the BIOS switch in my motherboard to the base BIOS 1.0X and it will successfully boot. I was also able to install the Intel ME with no issue while using that bios. What's wrong with that? Well it's not the latest patched BIOS that's supposed to be for security for the processor etc. Also, switching back to BIOS 1 with 2.06 causes a BSOD even after successfully installing the Intel MEI under the base BIOS. 
     
    So... EVGA I know this is older hardware but there's a problem here and I'm not the only one who has it... There needs to be a BIOS update for these motherboards. 




    I believe you need to update the intel ME firmware on your board. Not the Intel Management Engine, but the actual board firmware.
    You should find the version you need and the instructions here:
    https://www.win-raid.com/...irmware-and-Tools.html

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    Re: EVGA Z97 CLASSIFIED and Intel Management Engine Interface BSOD because of BIOS 2.06 2021/04/12 22:58:05 (permalink)
    KuntryBoy,

    Did you hear back about your ticket to support?
     
    I also tried the ticket route with support and no luck on getting an updated driver.  Below is what I submitted back in January and their reply below. Like you found the latest BIOS does not help. So I did not bother answering back. 
     
    By the way, there's another thread here in the forums where someone figured out that disabling IME in the Device Manager helps resolve the BSOD - but no one is sure what vulnerability this leaves us in.  :(  Here's the thread... https://forums.evga.com/Z...2-update-m3146566.aspx
     
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    Question1/5/2021 2:12:04 PM
     
    Hi,
    I believe that my EVGA Z97 Classified motherboard is outside of its warranty period.  It has been working great all these years
    But now Windows 10 20H2 Update requires a driver update for the Intel Management Engine (IME) in order for the motherboard to continue to be usable.  This driver does not seem to be available from Intel.  Please provide a link if it is. Otherwise, will EVGA be able to provide a driver for us customers?
    Please see forum thread...https://forums.evga.com/Z...2-update-m3146566.aspx
    Thank you,
     
     
     



    Answer1/6/2021 7:58:06 AM
    Hello,

    Thank you for reaching out to us about your z97 classified. Unfortunately, the last update to the IME was in 2015. If you haven't already, you could try updating the BIOS to the latest version found HERE. We apologize for the inconvenience.

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    Re: EVGA Z97 CLASSIFIED and Intel Management Engine Interface BSOD because of BIOS 2.06 2021/04/18 21:57:22 (permalink)
    I just submitted a ticket ( I believe lol ) Wanted to confirm I'm having this issue on the Z97 FTW board, Havent tested audio as it goes through the display port cable on my GPU. I was able to update to 20h2 by disabling the device in device manager but now it looks like windows update is trying to update the driver for intel ME and is now bluescreening if I don't disable windows update entirely, so watch out for the "intel" driver that pops up in there. This is all just a mess... I really hope we hear something back from them... the 4790k I have in mine is still more than capable for what I do.
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    Re: EVGA Z97 CLASSIFIED and Intel Management Engine Interface BSOD because of BIOS 2.06 2021/04/18 22:23:49 (permalink)
    Well after a restart I can't get into windows. It bluescreens then goes to the recovery menu..

    Interesting find though. Which may be causing the issue... after windows bluescreens and it automatically restarts and I enter into the bios it reports 120GB ram at 1171mhz. The problem is I only have 32GB ram at 1600mhz LOL After a manual restart it reports the correct amount and speed. I turned off XMP just incase with no luck. Not sure what to do now. Wondering if I set the boot mode to legacy if it will work. Will post updates as they come
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    Re: EVGA Z97 CLASSIFIED and Intel Management Engine Interface BSOD because of BIOS 2.06 2021/04/19 21:44:43 (permalink)
    I reverted back to bios 1.07 and the system booted right up, new intel ME drivers via windows update installed and the device enabled in device manager. This appears to be some sort of bios issue.. I heard back from EVGA support today with no useful information. They told me to reset the cmos and try sfc /scannow via CMD recovery, all options that were already tried. Then they tried to blame my RAM or HDD. I mentioned these threads but it doesnt seem like they listened or cared. Shame really, cant say I would go with an EVGA product again after this. Guess for now Im stuck on an outdated bios. Havent tried legacy mode but intend to just for curiosities sake 
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    Re: EVGA Z97 CLASSIFIED and Intel Management Engine Interface BSOD because of BIOS 2.06 2021/04/23 22:03:26 (permalink)
    sorry for the double post....
    Decided to dust off the old z97
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    2.06bios with the newest PLX firmware (updated the PLX because I am running the NVME drive)
    Fresh install of win 10 worked fine till it connected to the internet, then would blue screen after 1-2 minutes if that long.
    Ended up doing what other did and just disable the PCI Simple Communications Controller (I have yet to re enable) before pugging into the internet.
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    Re: EVGA Z97 CLASSIFIED and Intel Management Engine Interface BSOD because of BIOS 2.06 2021/05/07 21:11:24 (permalink)
    So, I don't normally respond back to any of the threads like this. But after spending a few days trying to figure this problem out, I found a solution which was incredibly simple and got me to a booted state. Backstory that got me here:
     
    Fresh install of win10
    Was running fine, until the BSOD "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" (which everything says it's bad RAM, but I knew it wasn't)
    Ran SFC, DISM, chkdsk, etc, etc, etc. 
    Srttrail.log file said no hard drive found in the WinRE command line, but I was accessing the file FROM the HDD that it said wasn't there... Rabbit hole.
    Used windbg.exe to finally find the BSODs were from a driver called "teedriverw8x64", which led me to the IMEI issue. I noticed issues in my device manager immediately prior to all this happening, so I was fairly certain this was the cause. 
     
    Resolution to get to boot:
    In the WinRE command line, if your main drive is C:\,  :
    move C:\Windows\System32\teedriverw8x64.sys C:\
    ren C:\teedriverw8x64.sys teedriverw8x64.sys.bak
     
    And that's it. Restarted and it booted right up. This resolution to get back to the desktop was much, much easier than anything else I had found and it worked first try. You might not even have to rename the file, but knowing C:\ can sometimes be in PATH, Windows might have still found it there. You might just be able to rename it inside the drivers folder, but I moved it just in case it was doing a regex check or similar to verify the file was there. Anyway, hopefully this helps. Good luck. 
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