It isn't the motherboard's fault. They have ALL been made under the same standard. This would happen to EVERY board made under the ATX format. Motherboard makers just recently came up with a fix for this problem with the molex connector. Why did they do it? Because it is easier to solder that on that it is to completely change the reference design of a video card. When the ATX factor was first made they didn't have this problem because video cards were not pulling this much power. Now it has become a problem.
 
Do I think the motherboard makers should have alerted us of this issue and the steps they were taking to resolve it? Yes. Do I think there should be a recall? Not at all. If that is the case then every motherboard made in the last what like 6 years??? should be recalled.
 
Now one of two things will happen. The next set of graphics cards (ie Kepler) will draw much less power, or all motherboards under the ATX factor will now include some type of power source for additional GPU's. (or both)
 
My heart goes out to all those effected by this circumstance. I pray this doesn't come my way.

Well i guess if i ever upgrade my GTX 275's i will need to shell out more cash for a mobo. Glad i spent 400$+ for "high end" tech.
 
Scary situation for all - especially people that leave their pcs unattended.

Well i was thinking worst case scenario of waking up to the house burning down :)
 
I almost bought a couple 480's couple weeks back but decided to wait for the refresh. Glad i did now.

People keep mentioning that the GPU's came out after the motherboard. Thats fine, the 480's did come out after the 759.
But the 295 exceeds the draw also. I posted a link several pages back that shows a 295 pulling 317 Watts. Thats more than the 470, and more than some stock clock 480's. The 295 was released months before the classified was. I know, I bought them both on the day of release. And I have no desire to do this mod on my board, not unless they put forth written policy that it will not void my warranty. I am well capable of doing it and repair boards all the time. Just not at the expense of my $450 board.
 

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Hellcat714

I don't think its cool how people are quick to stab EVGA in the back when this is clearly a problem with not just there board. I mean if you put a Pratt & Whitney F100 jet engine (480) on a Ferrari (Motherboard) and then get mad at Ferrari for something failing or falling off at 600MPH is just ludicrous.

This is not stabbing EVGA in the back.  This is about receiving what we paid for and that is a mobo that is 3 way sli compatible with PCIe 2.0 certified GPUs.
The GTX 480 is PCIe 2.0 certified, and the 760 and other Mobos without the additional power plugs are not 100% safe running them in 3 way sli which the 760 is sold to do.
Is the Pratt and Whitney jet engine certified to be run in a Ferrari ? It is clearly not.  However, the GTX 480 is certified for use in the 760 by virtue of the PCIe 2.0 Specification.
These Specifications (PCIe and usb), socket types (cpu), etc...are the safeguard for components to run together cohesively, efficiently, and safely. That is the whole purpose of standards being agreed to by manufacturers. 

Unfortunately for EVGA and other manufacturers the excuse of they didnt know the GPUs would do that, doesn't wash. EVGA and others made both  the Mobos and the GTX 480 or at the very least had intimate knowledge of the workings and requirements the GPUs and Mobos. The overclocking tools for the end user was also made by EVGA and the other manufacturers. In this case I just dont see a firewall of plausible ignorance.

Somehow the Specification system failed. This failure not the responsibility of the end user.

I dont want a step up or a replacement board. I like my current board. I dont want usb3 or sata 6 or 4 way sli, because I didnt pay for those features, But I do want 3 way sli with PCIe 2.0 Spec. cards which includes GTX 480 because that is the feature I paid for.  All I ask for is fix my board  to prevent failure or guarantee full replacement of all damaged components in the event of board failure.

Stabbing EVGA in the back? nope. Just want what I paid for.

Maybe you should sit down and re read my posts because you are arguing about keeping your absolute board. I don't have Patience for people that don't read thoroughly. Basicly you need to upgrade to a new board if you want to run that config of cards if not your nuts.


http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=621916

http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=623186

So to upgrade my True 3x x16 SLI board, you want me to buy another case and the 4xSLI board? All because of a design oversight on ALL the board manufacturers. Even when GPU's released BEFORE the 759 can exceed the power draw?
 
That might be fine if I was into cheap boards and $200 cases. But last I checked my 759 was $450, and this case was almost $700 after it's accessories. So I would have to order a case from MountainMods for $500 and spend another $400 on a board so my hardware doesn't burn up.... Something sounds flawed with that logic when ALL the hardware came from the same company and should have known this problem. I understand it happens, I don't want a new board, it's a downgrade for me, and I am not droppin no $1100-1200 until next build in the spring. 

trilogy3337

Hellcat714

burro1

Hellcat714

I don't think its cool how people are quick to stab EVGA in the back when this is clearly a problem with not just there board. I mean if you put a Pratt & Whitney F100 jet engine (480) on a Ferrari (Motherboard) and then get mad at Ferrari for something failing or falling off at 600MPH is just ludicrous.

This is not stabbing EVGA in the back.  This is about receiving what we paid for and that is a mobo that is 3 way sli compatible with PCIe 2.0 certified GPUs.
The GTX 480 is PCIe 2.0 certified, and the 760 and other Mobos without the additional power plugs are not 100% safe running them in 3 way sli which the 760 is sold to do.
Is the Pratt and Whitney jet engine certified to be run in a Ferrari ? It is clearly not.  However, the GTX 480 is certified for use in the 760 by virtue of the PCIe 2.0 Specification.
These Specifications (PCIe and usb), socket types (cpu), etc...are the safeguard for components to run together cohesively, efficiently, and safely. That is the whole purpose of standards being agreed to by manufacturers. 

Unfortunately for EVGA and other manufacturers the excuse of they didnt know the GPUs would do that, doesn't wash. EVGA and others made both  the Mobos and the GTX 480 or at the very least had intimate knowledge of the workings and requirements the GPUs and Mobos. The overclocking tools for the end user was also made by EVGA and the other manufacturers. In this case I just dont see a firewall of plausible ignorance.

Somehow the Specification system failed. This failure not the responsibility of the end user.

I dont want a step up or a replacement board. I like my current board. I dont want usb3 or sata 6 or 4 way sli, because I didnt pay for those features, But I do want 3 way sli with PCIe 2.0 Spec. cards which includes GTX 480 because that is the feature I paid for.  All I ask for is fix my board  to prevent failure or guarantee full replacement of all damaged components in the event of board failure.

Stabbing EVGA in the back? nope. Just want what I paid for.

Maybe you should sit down and re read my posts because you are arguing about keeping your absolute board. I don't have Patience for people that don't read thoroughly. Basicly you need to upgrade to a new board if you want to run that config of cards if not your nuts.


http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=621916

http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=623186

So to upgrade my True 3x x16 SLI board, you want me to buy another case and the 4xSLI board? All because of a design oversight on ALL the board manufacturers. Even when GPU's released BEFORE the 759 can exceed the power draw?

That might be fine if I was into cheap boards and $200 cases. But last I checked my 759 was $450, and this case was almost $700 after it's accessories. So I would have to order a case from MountainMods for $500 and spend another $400 on a board so my hardware doesn't burn up.... Something sounds flawed with that logic when ALL the hardware came from the same company and should have known this problem. I understand it happens, I don't want a new board, it's a downgrade for me, and I am not droppin no $1100-1200 until next build in the spring. 

I don't want you to do anything if you want to melt pins and don't care about your hardware do what ever you want.
 
 

Ok had time to calm down... the hardware that is gone is gone. It is not EVGA's responsability to replace it unless it was one of thier parts and its under warranty. The C3 was a nice thing for them to do they didnt have to do it they could had just given me a 759 board and said gl to you. Leaving me to mod it myself, sell it find a replacement or just go with it and deal with the same issue again later...
 
This is my take on it at this point the information is out, its in this post EVGA prob is not going to respond or give us the right hardware combination would it be nice? Yes it would be but do not hold your breath.
 
Those of you with 759/760 boards with HIGH POWER Consumption GPU's have options
1. The information is here in this post you didnt know now you know you can attempt to do the mod yourself, ask or pay someone else to do it for you.
 
2. Just keep running your system the way it is and pray nothing happens, if it does when your there trying to salvage what is left you cannot blame anyone else. I would suggest #1 if your going to keep the board and have no desire to replace it. If it burns out yeah EVGA will be nice enough to give you a brand new Classified 3. But at what cost dont be like me"I didnt know about this until it happened to me",  I lost ram, possibly a Killer 2100 card, a dvd/cd slim drive designed by voodoo PC exclusivly for my case that cannot be replaced, 3x power supplys, 3 hard drives, and of course my 759 board. I really wish I had known about this would had done the mod, and this post would had never existed.
 
3. Buy a new motherboard you know EVGA C3 will be safe so will the other vendors but after using other vendors over the weekend to today... Im sorry other vendors boards may overclock like champs but there is a big loss in control of your bios settings, some are also very picky on what ram you put on them.
 
The jet engine in the car thing is funny but a bad compairison this is more like buying a car or even a jet, but lets just use a car, say it has weak manifold studs over time they will eventually break the damage can be so catastrphic you destroy your whole car. Say you put alot of mods on your car and some of those got damaged as well the dealer is not obligated to do anything for you for those mods, they only have to replace what needs to be replace or give you a new car, but the extras you put on they are not liable for... yeah you could complain long enough, go to court and so on and eventually they would prob have to take care of it, but is it really worth it? Nope....
 
Those that know that feel EVGA should give them a new board,  yeah they could do it, are they going to? Who knows... But you know about the issue now, you know the risk from what I went though, what other members have gone though on the forums, what other people with other ealier gen x58 boards from other vendors. Its just up to you at this point on what to do.  Be thankful you know now instead of later at least now you have the opportunity to take action before anything happens.

@ Donta1979
 
Your last post was perfect and on that note it should be the end of this thread.
 
However i do have one problem.
 
My comparison is not bad its 100% spot on accurate because your talking about a part failing and i am talking about a power plant on a body in this case the power is the GTX 480's and the Body is the motherboard. Pushing the body over the edge is what will happen in this case because it was never designed to go that fast. Now at this point you could ether build a real rocket car out of it or just strap it something it was never designed for and hope it works.
 
Now forget the jet and lets say you had a Ford Mustang and you took the V8 out and replaced it with a Ferrari V12 that was certified to fit the mustang chassis then took it to the autobahn ran it to 250 MPH and the suspension or drive shaft failed and now your mad at Ford. its the same thing. The ford chassis was never intended for such power and now your seeing the end result. The Original x58 boards or all boards for that matter was never designed for such powerful cards and your also seeing the end result first hand.
 
Time to upgrade to a real rocket car or Fuselage with wings to take flight or just keep your jet strapped your mustang and watch the parts fly off.
 
Thank you so much Donta for posting this thread and letting us know whats going on. I for one will not upgrade to Fermi now and will be skipping the 400 series completely.
 
I am done with this thread. Moving on.

now with your new car example I see what where your going with it, but the fact still remains that the 759/760 Classified can support the GTX 480's but due to that one little thing that is missing it has crippled the board and resulted in a possible failure. Yes other vendors knew I am sure, but the post on extreme systems they definatly knew. They knew and sold the mobo on the market, a situation if they would had warned us could had been avoided by many people be it a mod, or a new board, or not putting the gpus on the mobo all together. Like a car I would know to change things out so I would not screw the pooch a situation like that would be your fault the builder because the information is already out there. this amount of HP/torq requires x parts not to break.
 
 
 The motherboard it was not put out ther publicly like hey ummm we know you got our motherboard but if your gpus consume too much power on ethusaist grade cards even at stock your prob going to burn your motherboard out or worse... See where I am coming from. This sort of thing was allowed to happen. Trust me once you have it happen lose about 1-2k in hardware, 2 months of work from your backup drive/work drive that was supposed to get you a permanent job not based off of small contracts that last 1-6 months at a time you would understand more.
 
The other people upset they are just upset because they where not warned they had to find out from somone not associated with the vendor that was hit with this one little thing that the motherboard needed. It would had not been hard to tac on a molex from the start. look at the mod, look at the classified 3... look at the extreme systems post... that is what has me and others annoyed/mad/pissed/worried.

touche

You also know most of EVGA's top staff has been on this post right Even Joe has been though this post jacob posted once that was it. Also look at the fact that Shamino said he had to make the pcie lanes beefier so they would not burn up when you added the extra power that was needed for high end power consumption cards, all that was needed was the molex and it would had not happened, fully avoidable=/  even fully avoidable if it was made common info here on the forums about it. It took several other people then me doing digging to say here you go. That is the point of it all it could had been avoided.
 
At last now its out in the open and others can avoid it, they have options now where those of us that its happened to already didnt, because we didnt know what it was...

YerBuddy

Hellcat714

YerBuddy

Hellcat714
I am done with this thread. Moving on.

Thank goodness.

why you have a problem with what i said come out and say it to my face instead of just saiying Thank goodness.

I respect your opinion, but I don't share your analogy mindset.  It has no place in this thread and is completely off base for reality.  You said you would move on and I'm appreciative of that.  So, move on. 

I also respect your opinion and the only reason why i am posting now is because of you for calling me out. I have been asked why do i have low post count for being here for almost 2 years and my response is because of people like you. Every time i have something to say someone has to come in and say something rude like "Thank Goodness" so i would prefer just not post anything most of the time. If there is anything in this thread has no place here its your comment to me. It is not helping the OP or others with this problem it only starts trouble.
 
 
 

Also, this is happening with stock setups and not only with "overclocked/overvolted" cards.. We DO need an official word from EVGA regardless of what you say..

+1
However the longer this thread goes on and the rumours and speculation that gets introduced, the more EVGA will have to cleanup because there are some very unhappy users at the moment, myself included.