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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 16:23:50 (permalink)
It isn't the motherboard's fault. They have ALL been made under the same standard. This would happen to EVERY board made under the ATX format. Motherboard makers just recently came up with a fix for this problem with the molex connector. Why did they do it? Because it is easier to solder that on that it is to completely change the reference design of a video card. When the ATX factor was first made they didn't have this problem because video cards were not pulling this much power. Now it has become a problem.
 
Do I think the motherboard makers should have alerted us of this issue and the steps they were taking to resolve it? Yes. Do I think there should be a recall? Not at all. If that is the case then every motherboard made in the last what like 6 years??? should be recalled.
 
Now one of two things will happen. The next set of graphics cards (ie Kepler) will draw much less power, or all motherboards under the ATX factor will now include some type of power source for additional GPU's. (or both)
 
My heart goes out to all those effected by this circumstance. I pray this doesn't come my way.

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 16:34:10 (permalink)
I certainly understand what you are saying tb, but if the problem was known beforehand and you paid for 2 or more 480s and then your board, PSU, and other components were fried because of it then I bet you would have a different opinion.  I'm fortunate that I can afford to buy another board to ensure this doesn't happen to me.  However, there are many that can't.  Even though I can afford to lose the money it doesn't make me happy.  Not one bit!  Especially since I should have been told about the potential for problems instead of taking my hard-earned money and then I find out about it.
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 16:41:24 (permalink)
Well i guess if i ever upgrade my GTX 275's i will need to shell out more cash for a mobo. Glad i spent 400$+ for "high end" tech.
 
Scary situation for all - especially people that leave their pcs unattended.
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 16:52:28 (permalink)
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Well i guess if i ever upgrade my GTX 275's i will need to shell out more cash for a mobo. Glad i spent 400$+ for "high end" tech.

Scary situation for all - especially people that leave their pcs unattended.


Even if you have your pc is attended you can still lose a ton of hardware.... that was my case... alot of stuff gone...

 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 16:57:11 (permalink)
Well i was thinking worst case scenario of waking up to the house burning down :)
 
I almost bought a couple 480's couple weeks back but decided to wait for the refresh. Glad i did now.
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 17:44:31 (permalink)
buying a connector that already has two yellow and two black wires will save you some effort. 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812339251. I would not recomend holding your breath and waiting on EVGA to provide a fix, Suffication is a painfull way to DIE. ( as would be consumption by fire ) 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 17:48:37 (permalink)
People keep mentioning that the GPU's came out after the motherboard. Thats fine, the 480's did come out after the 759.
But the 295 exceeds the draw also. I posted a link several pages back that shows a 295 pulling 317 Watts. Thats more than the 470, and more than some stock clock 480's. The 295 was released months before the classified was. I know, I bought them both on the day of release. And I have no desire to do this mod on my board, not unless they put forth written policy that it will not void my warranty. I am well capable of doing it and repair boards all the time. Just not at the expense of my $450 board.
 

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 17:51:27 (permalink)
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I don't think its cool how people are quick to stab EVGA in the back when this is clearly a problem with not just there board. I mean if you put a Pratt & Whitney F100 jet engine (480) on a Ferrari (Motherboard) and then get mad at Ferrari for something failing or falling off at 600MPH is just ludicrous.



This is not stabbing EVGA in the back.  This is about receiving what we paid for and that is a mobo that is 3 way sli compatible with PCIe 2.0 certified GPUs.
The GTX 480 is PCIe 2.0 certified, and the 760 and other Mobos without the additional power plugs are not 100% safe running them in 3 way sli which the 760 is sold to do.
Is the Pratt and Whitney jet engine certified to be run in a Ferrari ? It is clearly not.  However, the GTX 480 is certified for use in the 760 by virtue of the PCIe 2.0 Specification.
These Specifications (PCIe and usb), socket types (cpu), etc...are the safeguard for components to run together cohesively, efficiently, and safely. That is the whole purpose of standards being agreed to by manufacturers. 
 
Unfortunately for EVGA and other manufacturers the excuse of they didnt know the GPUs would do that, doesn't wash. EVGA and others made both  the Mobos and the GTX 480 or at the very least had intimate knowledge of the workings and requirements the GPUs and Mobos. The overclocking tools for the end user was also made by EVGA and the other manufacturers. In this case I just dont see a firewall of plausible ignorance.

Somehow the Specification system failed. This failure not the responsibility of the end user.

I dont want a step up or a replacement board. I like my current board. I dont want usb3 or sata 6 or 4 way sli, because I didnt pay for those features, But I do want 3 way sli with PCIe 2.0 Spec. cards which includes GTX 480 because that is the feature I paid for.  All I ask for is fix my board  to prevent failure or guarantee full replacement of all damaged components in the event of board failure.

Stabbing EVGA in the back? nope. Just want what I paid for.


Maybe you should sit down and re read my posts because you are arguing about keeping your absolute board. I don't have Patience for people that don't read thoroughly. Basicly you need to upgrade to a new board if you want to run that config of cards if not your nuts.
 
 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 18:08:22 (permalink)
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I don't think its cool how people are quick to stab EVGA in the back when this is clearly a problem with not just there board. I mean if you put a Pratt & Whitney F100 jet engine (480) on a Ferrari (Motherboard) and then get mad at Ferrari for something failing or falling off at 600MPH is just ludicrous.



This is not stabbing EVGA in the back.  This is about receiving what we paid for and that is a mobo that is 3 way sli compatible with PCIe 2.0 certified GPUs.
The GTX 480 is PCIe 2.0 certified, and the 760 and other Mobos without the additional power plugs are not 100% safe running them in 3 way sli which the 760 is sold to do.
Is the Pratt and Whitney jet engine certified to be run in a Ferrari ? It is clearly not.  However, the GTX 480 is certified for use in the 760 by virtue of the PCIe 2.0 Specification.
These Specifications (PCIe and usb), socket types (cpu), etc...are the safeguard for components to run together cohesively, efficiently, and safely. That is the whole purpose of standards being agreed to by manufacturers. 

Unfortunately for EVGA and other manufacturers the excuse of they didnt know the GPUs would do that, doesn't wash. EVGA and others made both  the Mobos and the GTX 480 or at the very least had intimate knowledge of the workings and requirements the GPUs and Mobos. The overclocking tools for the end user was also made by EVGA and the other manufacturers. In this case I just dont see a firewall of plausible ignorance.

Somehow the Specification system failed. This failure not the responsibility of the end user.

I dont want a step up or a replacement board. I like my current board. I dont want usb3 or sata 6 or 4 way sli, because I didnt pay for those features, But I do want 3 way sli with PCIe 2.0 Spec. cards which includes GTX 480 because that is the feature I paid for.  All I ask for is fix my board  to prevent failure or guarantee full replacement of all damaged components in the event of board failure.

Stabbing EVGA in the back? nope. Just want what I paid for.


Maybe you should sit down and re read my posts because you are arguing about keeping your absolute board. I don't have Patience for people that don't read thoroughly. Basicly you need to upgrade to a new board if you want to run that config of cards if not your nuts.


http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=621916

http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=623186


So to upgrade my True 3x x16 SLI board, you want me to buy another case and the 4xSLI board? All because of a design oversight on ALL the board manufacturers. Even when GPU's released BEFORE the 759 can exceed the power draw?
 
That might be fine if I was into cheap boards and $200 cases. But last I checked my 759 was $450, and this case was almost $700 after it's accessories. So I would have to order a case from MountainMods for $500 and spend another $400 on a board so my hardware doesn't burn up.... Something sounds flawed with that logic when ALL the hardware came from the same company and should have known this problem. I understand it happens, I don't want a new board, it's a downgrade for me, and I am not droppin no $1100-1200 until next build in the spring. 

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 18:11:43 (permalink)
Maybe EVGA should put a warning on the 480's, something like do not run in SLI unless you have a mobo with an extra power molex or you will DIE IN A FIRE!!!
 
gimme a break..


 


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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 18:27:25 (permalink)
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burro1

Hellcat714

I don't think its cool how people are quick to stab EVGA in the back when this is clearly a problem with not just there board. I mean if you put a Pratt & Whitney F100 jet engine (480) on a Ferrari (Motherboard) and then get mad at Ferrari for something failing or falling off at 600MPH is just ludicrous.



This is not stabbing EVGA in the back.  This is about receiving what we paid for and that is a mobo that is 3 way sli compatible with PCIe 2.0 certified GPUs.
The GTX 480 is PCIe 2.0 certified, and the 760 and other Mobos without the additional power plugs are not 100% safe running them in 3 way sli which the 760 is sold to do.
Is the Pratt and Whitney jet engine certified to be run in a Ferrari ? It is clearly not.  However, the GTX 480 is certified for use in the 760 by virtue of the PCIe 2.0 Specification.
These Specifications (PCIe and usb), socket types (cpu), etc...are the safeguard for components to run together cohesively, efficiently, and safely. That is the whole purpose of standards being agreed to by manufacturers. 

Unfortunately for EVGA and other manufacturers the excuse of they didnt know the GPUs would do that, doesn't wash. EVGA and others made both  the Mobos and the GTX 480 or at the very least had intimate knowledge of the workings and requirements the GPUs and Mobos. The overclocking tools for the end user was also made by EVGA and the other manufacturers. In this case I just dont see a firewall of plausible ignorance.

Somehow the Specification system failed. This failure not the responsibility of the end user.

I dont want a step up or a replacement board. I like my current board. I dont want usb3 or sata 6 or 4 way sli, because I didnt pay for those features, But I do want 3 way sli with PCIe 2.0 Spec. cards which includes GTX 480 because that is the feature I paid for.  All I ask for is fix my board  to prevent failure or guarantee full replacement of all damaged components in the event of board failure.

Stabbing EVGA in the back? nope. Just want what I paid for.


Maybe you should sit down and re read my posts because you are arguing about keeping your absolute board. I don't have Patience for people that don't read thoroughly. Basicly you need to upgrade to a new board if you want to run that config of cards if not your nuts.


http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=621916

http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=623186


So to upgrade my True 3x x16 SLI board, you want me to buy another case and the 4xSLI board? All because of a design oversight on ALL the board manufacturers. Even when GPU's released BEFORE the 759 can exceed the power draw?

That might be fine if I was into cheap boards and $200 cases. But last I checked my 759 was $450, and this case was almost $700 after it's accessories. So I would have to order a case from MountainMods for $500 and spend another $400 on a board so my hardware doesn't burn up.... Something sounds flawed with that logic when ALL the hardware came from the same company and should have known this problem. I understand it happens, I don't want a new board, it's a downgrade for me, and I am not droppin no $1100-1200 until next build in the spring. 



I don't want you to do anything if you want to melt pins and don't care about your hardware do what ever you want.
 
 

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 18:29:21 (permalink)
Nvidia makes the cards not EVGA stop blurring the lines people they are a vendor nothing else.
 
Like i said business is business and in this hobby your parts can be EOL before you even leave the parking lot.

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 19:59:18 (permalink)
Ok had time to calm down... the hardware that is gone is gone. It is not EVGA's responsability to replace it unless it was one of thier parts and its under warranty. The C3 was a nice thing for them to do they didnt have to do it they could had just given me a 759 board and said gl to you. Leaving me to mod it myself, sell it find a replacement or just go with it and deal with the same issue again later...
 
This is my take on it at this point the information is out, its in this post EVGA prob is not going to respond or give us the right hardware combination would it be nice? Yes it would be but do not hold your breath.
 
Those of you with 759/760 boards with HIGH POWER Consumption GPU's have options
1. The information is here in this post you didnt know now you know you can attempt to do the mod yourself, ask or pay someone else to do it for you.
 
2. Just keep running your system the way it is and pray nothing happens, if it does when your there trying to salvage what is left you cannot blame anyone else. I would suggest #1 if your going to keep the board and have no desire to replace it. If it burns out yeah EVGA will be nice enough to give you a brand new Classified 3. But at what cost dont be like me"I didnt know about this until it happened to me",  I lost ram, possibly a Killer 2100 card, a dvd/cd slim drive designed by voodoo PC exclusivly for my case that cannot be replaced, 3x power supplys, 3 hard drives, and of course my 759 board. I really wish I had known about this would had done the mod, and this post would had never existed.
 
3. Buy a new motherboard you know EVGA C3 will be safe so will the other vendors but after using other vendors over the weekend to today... Im sorry other vendors boards may overclock like champs but there is a big loss in control of your bios settings, some are also very picky on what ram you put on them.
 
The jet engine in the car thing is funny but a bad compairison this is more like buying a car or even a jet, but lets just use a car, say it has weak manifold studs over time they will eventually break the damage can be so catastrphic you destroy your whole car. Say you put alot of mods on your car and some of those got damaged as well the dealer is not obligated to do anything for you for those mods, they only have to replace what needs to be replace or give you a new car, but the extras you put on they are not liable for... yeah you could complain long enough, go to court and so on and eventually they would prob have to take care of it, but is it really worth it? Nope....
 
Those that know that feel EVGA should give them a new board,  yeah they could do it, are they going to? Who knows... But you know about the issue now, you know the risk from what I went though, what other members have gone though on the forums, what other people with other ealier gen x58 boards from other vendors. Its just up to you at this point on what to do.  Be thankful you know now instead of later at least now you have the opportunity to take action before anything happens.

 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 20:23:38 (permalink)
I personally think it would be a good business decision to replace the affected boards and either modify, or remove the line completely from the roster. I don't think EVGA want to pay for losses from house fires or numerous litigeous actions from this. Just do what we did with the 680i -780i thing.

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 23:10:58 (permalink)
@ Donta1979
 
Your last post was perfect and on that note it should be the end of this thread.
 
However i do have one problem.
 
My comparison is not bad its 100% spot on accurate because your talking about a part failing and i am talking about a power plant on a body in this case the power is the GTX 480's and the Body is the motherboard. Pushing the body over the edge is what will happen in this case because it was never designed to go that fast. Now at this point you could ether build a real rocket car out of it or just strap it something it was never designed for and hope it works.
 
Now forget the jet and lets say you had a Ford Mustang and you took the V8 out and replaced it with a Ferrari V12 that was certified to fit the mustang chassis then took it to the autobahn ran it to 250 MPH and the suspension or drive shaft failed and now your mad at Ford. its the same thing. The ford chassis was never intended for such power and now your seeing the end result. The Original x58 boards or all boards for that matter was never designed for such powerful cards and your also seeing the end result first hand.
 
Time to upgrade to a real rocket car or Fuselage with wings to take flight or just keep your jet strapped your mustang and watch the parts fly off.
 
Thank you so much Donta for posting this thread and letting us know whats going on. I for one will not upgrade to Fermi now and will be skipping the 400 series completely.
 
I am done with this thread. Moving on.

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 23:17:13 (permalink)
I hope it's not the end, for this thread, I would like to see an EVGA offical post with power specs, and recomendations, for both boards and cards, and a cleaned up version on the MOD instructions with Pics and links placed in a stickey  

  
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 23:28:13 (permalink)
now with your new car example I see what where your going with it, but the fact still remains that the 759/760 Classified can support the GTX 480's but due to that one little thing that is missing it has crippled the board and resulted in a possible failure. Yes other vendors knew I am sure, but the post on extreme systems they definatly knew. They knew and sold the mobo on the market, a situation if they would had warned us could had been avoided by many people be it a mod, or a new board, or not putting the gpus on the mobo all together. Like a car I would know to change things out so I would not screw the pooch a situation like that would be your fault the builder because the information is already out there. this amount of HP/torq requires x parts not to break.
 
 
 The motherboard it was not put out ther publicly like hey ummm we know you got our motherboard but if your gpus consume too much power on ethusaist grade cards even at stock your prob going to burn your motherboard out or worse... See where I am coming from. This sort of thing was allowed to happen. Trust me once you have it happen lose about 1-2k in hardware, 2 months of work from your backup drive/work drive that was supposed to get you a permanent job not based off of small contracts that last 1-6 months at a time you would understand more.
 
The other people upset they are just upset because they where not warned they had to find out from somone not associated with the vendor that was hit with this one little thing that the motherboard needed. It would had not been hard to tac on a molex from the start. look at the mod, look at the classified 3... look at the extreme systems post... that is what has me and others annoyed/mad/pissed/worried.

 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 23:29:47 (permalink)
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Thank goodness.
 
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I hope it's not the end, for this thread, I would like to see an EVGA offical post with power specs, and recomendations, for both boards and cards, and a cleaned up version on the MOD instructions with Pics and links placed in a stickey  

 
+1.  I also am waiting for an official stance to this problem.  Where is the famous EVGA customer support?  Is the legal team not ready for a corporate reply yet?  Where are the famous Marketing/Technical teams answers?  I am a bit disheartened that there has been no official word from my favorite company.  Even if the response is not to my liking - something is better than nothing. 
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why you have a problem with what i said come out and say it to my face instead of just saiying Thank goodness.

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 23:37:32 (permalink)
You also know most of EVGA's top staff has been on this post right Even Joe has been though this post jacob posted once that was it. Also look at the fact that Shamino said he had to make the pcie lanes beefier so they would not burn up when you added the extra power that was needed for high end power consumption cards, all that was needed was the molex and it would had not happened, fully avoidable=/  even fully avoidable if it was made common info here on the forums about it. It took several other people then me doing digging to say here you go. That is the point of it all it could had been avoided.
 
At last now its out in the open and others can avoid it, they have options now where those of us that its happened to already didnt, because we didnt know what it was...

 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/11 23:37:59 (permalink)
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Thank goodness.



why you have a problem with what i said come out and say it to my face instead of just saiying Thank goodness.


I respect your opinion, but I don't share your analogy mindset.  It has no place in this thread and is completely off base for reality.  You said you would move on and I'm appreciative of that.  So, move on. 
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why you have a problem with what i said come out and say it to my face instead of just saiying Thank goodness.


I respect your opinion, but I don't share your analogy mindset.  It has no place in this thread and is completely off base for reality.  You said you would move on and I'm appreciative of that.  So, move on. 


I also respect your opinion and the only reason why i am posting now is because of you for calling me out. I have been asked why do i have low post count for being here for almost 2 years and my response is because of people like you. Every time i have something to say someone has to come in and say something rude like "Thank Goodness" so i would prefer just not post anything most of the time. If there is anything in this thread has no place here its your comment to me. It is not helping the OP or others with this problem it only starts trouble.
 
 
 

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/12 01:33:31 (permalink)
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why you have a problem with what i said come out and say it to my face instead of just saiying Thank goodness.


I respect your opinion, but I don't share your analogy mindset.  It has no place in this thread and is completely off base for reality.  You said you would move on and I'm appreciative of that.  So, move on. 


I also respect your opinion and the only reason why i am posting now is because of you for calling me out. I have been asked why do i have low post count for being here for almost 2 years and my response is because of people like you. Every time i have something to say someone has to come in and say something rude like "Thank Goodness" so i would prefer just not post anything most of the time. If there is anything in this thread has no place here its your comment to me. It is not helping the OP or others with this problem it only starts trouble.


LOL.  As I stated earlier, it was my expression of gratitude for your own admission of leaving this thread and my reasoning is your analogies being what I consider worthless and have no place here.  If that little comment was so upsetting to you then go have your man-suit adjusted or, as you stated "just not post anything."  This thread isn't about you or your feelings getting hurt.
 
This whole thing is upsetting to those of us that have spent a great deal of money on expensive boards and graphics cards and are worried about using them for fear of losing the components or worse.  You don't even own a Fermi card but you can express your opinion about it just as anyone else here can.  I too can express my opinion which is I'm thankful that you want to leave this thread. Which, by the way, hasn't happened yet.
 
Edit:  It's also about not getting an official statement from a company that is known for outstanding customer service. 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/12 04:06:59 (permalink)


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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/12 05:53:34 (permalink)
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btw, this is an issue with the 24 pin connectors on power supplies not being able to push through enough power to the slot for the gpus being used and overheating.
 
Actually no.. The REASON the pins are overheating is because the motherboard is asking for too much current and the CONNECTOR cannot handle it. The fact that the PSU IS CAPABLE of providing the power that the motherboard wants is why we are having this problem.. Please don't flame someone else when you're just as misinformed..


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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/12 05:56:03 (permalink)
Also, this is happening with stock setups and not only with "overclocked/overvolted" cards.. We DO need an official word from EVGA regardless of what you say..
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/12 05:56:27 (permalink)
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... my bet is this usually happens when people are overclocking and or overvolting the gpus. this is why motherboard manufacturers have essentially come up with workarounds on newer model motherboards. i dont see why you guys expect 'official statements.' if youre worried, mod your board or get a different board. shame on you for speaking about subjects you dont know enough about and posting such misinformation to so many users.


Based on your speculations, This is the type of official statment I would expect,
 
Something to the effect , that EVGA boards Do meet industrey standarde for ATX power, and the cards do as well, as long as they are not OCed... ; or if the problem has only been found when using tri sli, or quad sli, or sli, on 480's ;  and although the cards do support SLI, we do not recomend it for boards without the additional power plug.... , or the cards can draw 225 watts from the 6 & 8 pin plugs, and 75 watts from the slot, we have found that a 480 does, or does not exceed that...we have found that the power does/does not follow that standard.
 
I'm not asking EVGA to take any responsibility, or point fingers, or place blame, I would just like to hear them say, (" you will be safe if you ..." )   or we recomend 3 470's insted of 3 480's, for these boards. I understand EVGA's hands are tied when it comes to what Nvidia, designes, or  ATI design, and listsed spec, but would like to know if that spec is not accurate, or not accurate when overclocked. And would like to know if a specific combenation is unsafe for my equipment, or family.

I am sure the legal department could draft a statment that would satisfy everyone. and from what I understand, from reading the information here they have had about a year to do so.
 
I do not want my boards replaced, I do not want anyone to place a head on a choping block, or even point fingers, All I want is a clear understanding of my equipment, it's cababilities, the operating envelope, and recomended safe operating paramaters. and do not feel like that's too much to ask for.
 
As far as " knowing enough about " that is why you want an official statment, It's far better to hear something official from those that know, than allow comments, from those that speculate.  A properly worded response in post # 2 would have eliminated the need for any post after that.  

  
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/12 05:59:32 (permalink)
+1
However the longer this thread goes on and the rumours and speculation that gets introduced, the more EVGA will have to cleanup because there are some very unhappy users at the moment, myself included.
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/12 06:23:30 (permalink)
Also shame on anyone that designed a card to operate at the exact limit of the power source. Take a submarine for example, they figure a theraretical Crush depth, ( the depth you know it will fail) and have , a design depth, the depth you can expect reasionable operation, a test depth, usualy where you run sea triles, and a operating depth, where you normaly run, each depth has a saftey margin built in, ( can not discuss actual depths ) but the point is, you error on the side of saftey;
 
another example OCing temps, we all know TJmax, is at or just over 100, we recomend no more than 85 under LinX, and operate day in and day out in the 60-70 range.
 
Could someone setup their system to operate at 99, and operate, YES, would it be a good idea, NO.  
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