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2020/06/10 09:08:00 (permalink)
*SOLVED*
 
The cause of the problem was the onboard Realtek H8111 gigabit adapter - network traffic is what was causing the card to crackle and stutter. I uninstalled the Realtek gigabit adapter in Windows device manager, choosing to delete driver software, rebooted into UEFI, disabled the onboard network controller, saved settings, rebooted. No further audio issues. I installed an Intel i210-T1 PCIe adapter in my system to replace the onboard NIC, and I am not having any further issues with the Nu Audio card.
 
*Original Post*
 
Before I begin, I've read this thread and tried the solutions offered () - they removed the link, but it's one of the first to pop up on Google with "evga nu audio stutter"
 
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MSI Gaming Edge X570
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
32GB Trident Neo 3600MHz CL16
1TB Corsair Force PCIE 4 nvme
GTX 1080 Ti
Windows 10 Pro 2004
 
So, I just installed this card last night and soon as I fired up Youtube, I noticed a stutter. I then tried streaming music - stutter. I opened Fallout 76 - stutter. Windows 10 popped up a notification - stutter. I read the above mentioned thread. Reinstalled my chipset drivers via AMD's website, reinstalled my GPU drivers, tried removing the ASMedia USB drivers to use the default Windows drivers, reinstalled the Nu Audio drivers. Increasing the buffer in the Nu Audio software helps a bit, but it's still stuttering, so I put it back to the default 512.
 
Could it be the motherboard not feeding the card fast enough? Or could it be the card itself? 🤔
 
*edit* - I had an Intel Wifi 6 card installed on an adapter board, that was the first thing I removed while troubleshooting - also moved the Nu Audio to the very bottom PCIe x1 slot, the 2nd x16 slot (it's only x4), and the 2nd to last x1 slot. No luck there either, still stuttering. When the audio stutters, the audio stops, then resumes. When watching video, the whole video stops until the audio resumes. It's not dropping the audio, the system seems to detect it's not synced and stops until the audio is buffered up again.
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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/10 12:32:58 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby kozad 2020/06/10 22:01:18
Are your PCIe slots set to Gen4? If so, you have to set everything back to Gen3. Since the Nu Audio being a Gen2 card, it has some issues running in PCIe 4.0 despite having backwards compatibility.
 
Source: I had the same experiences on my MSI Prestige X570 Creation. Fixed it by just changing the PCIe version to Gen3. Hope that helps!

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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/10 12:40:21 (permalink)
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Are your PCIe slots set to Gen4? If so, you have to set everything back to Gen3. Since the Nu Audio being a Gen2 card, it has some issues running in PCIe 4.0 despite having backwards compatibility.
 
Source: I had the same experiences on my MSI Prestige X570 Creation. Fixed it by just changing the PCIe version to Gen3. Hope that helps!


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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/10 19:47:53 (permalink)
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Are your PCIe slots set to Gen4? If so, you have to set everything back to Gen3. Since the Nu Audio being a Gen2 card, it has some issues running in PCIe 4.0 despite having backwards compatibility.
 
Source: I had the same experiences on my MSI Prestige X570 Creation. Fixed it by just changing the PCIe version to Gen3. Hope that helps!




 Okay, so into the terrible looking UEFI I go. I manually set the PCIe slots fed by the chipset to 3.0, reboot the machine. Still stuttering. The top x16 slot is the only other option for me to alter that I see, so I also set that to 3.0 and reboot again. Stutters just the same. 😩
 
Thank you for taking time to try to help, but sadly this doesn't seem to be the issue for me. I ordered another motherboard two weeks ago, the Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master, but it's backordered due to the human malware, so who knows when I'll actually have it? I'll hold onto the Nu Audio for now, but if the Amazon return window is closing and my new mobo is not here, the card is going back. Very disappointed, I really wanted to love this card.

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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/10 21:59:45 (permalink)
Okay, I have an update - listening closely to my Sound BlasterX AE-5, I hear an occasional pop here and there while playing audio and video. I am thinking I am having an issue with the maligned MSI motherboard, not the Nu Audio. I'll know for sure once my new motherboard arrives.
 
@EVGA, would you be able / willing to test out the Nu Audio with the lower end MSI X570 boards? The other thread I had mentioned above, the person who wrote it was also using a lower end MSI X570 mothertboard.

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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/11 10:41:01 (permalink)
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Okay, I have an update - listening closely to my Sound BlasterX AE-5, I hear an occasional pop here and there while playing audio and video. I am thinking I am having an issue with the maligned MSI motherboard, not the Nu Audio. I'll know for sure once my new motherboard arrives.
 
@EVGA, would you be able / willing to test out the Nu Audio with the lower end MSI X570 boards? The other thread I had mentioned above, the person who wrote it was also using a lower end MSI X570 mothertboard.


Are you keeping your computer mostly up-to-date (stuff like new drivers for your hardware and updating Windows on a regular basis)?
 
And I see your UEFI version on your previous post. If I go to the download page of your motherboard, I see that they released a new UEFI version (not the beta version, though the release notes look interesting on that one) and state that it has "improved PCIe device compatibility."
You can try to update it to that build and see if it works out. Your motherboard has a BIOS flashback button so you should be good if problems occur.
 
And don't forget to uninstall and completely disable the integrated audio in the UEFI if you haven't done it, since they can potentially interfere with the sound card aswell. Same stuff that happened to older Sound Blaster cards.

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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/11 15:42:35 (permalink)
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You may want to try disabling any processor power saving states in BIOS to see if this help resolve any issues, some vendors will name this power save state option as C-States. Also let us know at what sample rate you have your Nu Audio Card set, the channel you are on, if you are using any of the Nahimic features and which port you are using on the back of the NU Audio Card. Posting a screenshot may be easier. 
 
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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/12 01:31:14 (permalink)
Hello.
Yes, I keep my system up to date. It's running the latest build of Windows 10, 2004, and I always allow Windows to install updates on a regular basis. GeForce experience keeps my GPU driver up to date as well.
(The latency screenshot above was taken while the audio was in the process of stuttering - the latency displayed was usually much lower)

I also periodically check for new chipset drivers from the AMD website, and around the time I do that I also check for the latest drivers for the other hardware in the system via Update Driver in device manager.

MSI must have very recently released an update, I checked for an updated version of the EFI fairly recently, probably within the last 4 weeks, so I will definitely check that out later today. The last time I saw, the beta was the latest update and I don't install betas. 💯

On one of the troubleshooting test runs I did, I disabled C states in the EFI but was still encountering the same problem. Would I also need to disable AMD cool and quiet?

In Windows power settings, it is using the Ryzen plan, and I have manually disabled pcie link power saving and disabled USB devices from powering off to save power.

In the EFI the onboard realtek audio is disabled - that is something I always do right away when upgrading the EFI or when I get a new motherboard.

On the rear of the card, I am using the RCA outputs for my speaker, and I also have a pair of Quincy Jones AKG headphones plugged into the headphone jack. Audio was stuttering with or without the headphones connected. It was also stuttering over headphone playback as well when I switched over to that with the Nahimic program.

The card was set to the default depth and sample rate - 24 bit and 4800khz I believe, but also tried a few other rates in 24 bit and also 32 bit.

The Nu Audio was connected directly to my power supply with a SATA power cable, no adapters used (I had read somewhere to not use adapters, so thought I should mention that)

The Nu Audio card not currently installed in my computer, so I will need to set some time aside for further troubleshooting later today. I will post any updates.

Thank you for the detailed response, I appreciate your efforts.

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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/12 12:34:47 (permalink)
Alright, looking at the MSI support site, I am indeed running the current UEFI version. The beta version from March claims to have "Improved USB sound card compatibility" - the Sound BlasterX AE-5 is a USB device on a PCIe card, just like the Nu Audio, so perhaps I am affected by the issue the beta UEFI claims to address. I will use the beta version and test out the Nu Audio again. I am also going to cross-post over to the MSI forums, if others are having similar issues, it'll be nice to know I'm not alone, haha.

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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/12 13:22:41 (permalink)
If I may ask, when did the problems started to occur when you had the AE-5?

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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/12 13:26:48 (permalink)
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If I may ask, when did the problems started to occur when you had the AE-5?

I honestly can't say. 🤔

I did install that beta EFI, the AE-5 is still making light popping sounds, so now I am going to try the Nu Audio again. I just had to go in and delete some folders that the uninstaller didn't remove for it. I will report back shortly.

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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/12 14:31:33 (permalink)
Okay, running the beta UEFI with c-states disabled, with clean installation of the drivers for the Nu Audio, it's still stuttering. Even in 16 bit it's constantly stuttering. It's truly unbearable. 😩

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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/12 15:45:25 (permalink)
I solved it! It was the onboard Realtek H8111 LAN causing the audio issues! Network traffic is was was triggering the stuttering and crackles. Fortunately, I had an Intel i210-T1 on hand, so I disabled to onboard NIC in the UEFI, popped the Intel network adapter into a PCIe slot and called it a day after updating the drivers for it. I will update my top post to reflect the solution.
 
Thanks everyone who tried to help.
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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2020/06/12 17:48:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby kozad 2020/06/12 18:14:13
kozad
I solved it! It was the onboard Realtek H8111 LAN causing the audio issues! Network traffic is was was triggering the stuttering and crackles. Fortunately, I had an Intel i210-T1 on hand, so I disabled to onboard NIC in the UEFI, popped the Intel network adapter into a PCIe slot and called it a day after updating the drivers for it. I will update my top post to reflect the solution.
 
Thanks everyone who tried to help.




Very interesting, thank you for the update. Will definitely note this for future troubleshooting. 
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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun (SOLVED) 2020/08/15 01:17:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby kozad 2020/08/15 06:37:02
Dude! My man! Was on the verge of returning the card when I came across this thread. Disabled on board wired network and "Bam!" all good. My motherboard has a wireless controller as well so I just switched to that. No issues with wireless. Thanks again!
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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun (SOLVED) 2020/08/15 06:41:53 (permalink)
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Dude! My man! Was on the verge of returning the card when I came across this thread. Disabled on board wired network and "Bam!" all good. My motherboard has a wireless controller as well so I just switched to that. No issues with wireless. Thanks again!


Hey, glad to hear it! Ears without this sound card are sad ears, and no one wants those.
 
No idea why onboard network controllers would mess with the Nu Audio, but here we are... Probably just a crap motherboard. I've since upgraded mine to a X570 Gigabyte Aorus Master and I'm using the onboard NIC without any issues. If you need wired ethernet, I recommend getting an Intel NIC - if you're gaming online, you probably wanna be wired up. 💯

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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun (SOLVED) 2020/08/21 07:38:37 (permalink)
Hi All
I have this rig:
Ryzen 1700
16gb ram
Asus B350 Prime Plus mainboard
GPU Vega 56 8gb ram
Evga Nu audio 0.32 firmware and 2.1.10
Windows 10 2004 edition
 
This is ironic but how is possible that the problem apear on x570 with Realtek® 8111H (from MSI website) and not on my b350 with the Realtek® RTL8111H..They have identical chipset from both board specs.What am i missing ?
 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun (SOLVED) 2020/09/04 19:27:40 (permalink)
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Hi All
I have this rig:
Ryzen 1700
16gb ram
Asus B350 Prime Plus mainboard
GPU Vega 56 8gb ram
Evga Nu audio 0.32 firmware and 2.1.10
Windows 10 2004 edition
 
This is ironic but how is possible that the problem apear on x570 with Realtek® 8111H (from MSI website) and not on my b350 with the Realtek® RTL8111H..They have identical chipset from both board specs.What am i missing ?
 
 
 
 




Better quality motherboard, or simply fewer components on the motherboard to take up recourses would be my guesses. Also, of note - x570 is different than the B350 chipset. x570 is 2 generations newer.
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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun (SOLVED) 2020/09/05 13:45:54 (permalink)
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Hi All
I have this rig:
Ryzen 1700
16gb ram
Asus B350 Prime Plus mainboard
GPU Vega 56 8gb ram
Evga Nu audio 0.32 firmware and 2.1.10
Windows 10 2004 edition
 
This is ironic but how is possible that the problem apear on x570 with Realtek® 8111H (from MSI website) and not on my b350 with the Realtek® RTL8111H..They have identical chipset from both board specs.What am i missing ?
 
 
 
 




Better quality motherboard, or simply fewer components on the motherboard to take up recourses would be my guesses. Also, of note - x570 is different than the B350 chipset. x570 is 2 generations newer.


Better quality motherboard B350 vs X570 ? ... I don't buy this.You said yourself X570 is two generations newer...I do feel there is a degree of experience in building AMD boards between B350 and X570..
I wish to know have you installed latest chipset drivers for X570 ?
 
 
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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun (SOLVED) 2020/09/05 23:05:57 (permalink)

Better quality motherboard B350 vs X570 ? ... I don't buy this.You said yourself X570 is two generations newer...I do feel there is a degree of experience in building AMD boards between B350 and X570..
I wish to know have you installed latest chipset drivers for X570 ?



Being newer doesn't equate better quality at all. My Google Home Max sounds better than any newer Alexa speaker for example. :P
 
I really don't think this forum is the place to argue about motherboards, but I recommend going over to Youtube and looking at reviews for lower end MSI x570 boards - Hardware Unboxed has great reviews. The VRMs on the low end MSI x570 boards are garbage and the DRAM slots are also daisy chained, which shows corners were cut on the product. Yes, everything was up to date - drivers, bios, etc - (see the above posts) - network traffic on the integrated NIC was the cause of my audio issues. Disabling the Realtek NIC completely fixed the problem. I have since replaced the MSI board with a Gigabyte x570 board and no longer have it. Nothing on my new motherboard interferes with the Nu Audio, so this motherboard gets my seal of approval.
 
I'm not going to be replying further, as I don't want to get in trouble with the admins of the forum. Thanks for understanding and have a good day!

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Re: EVGA Nu Audio Stutter / Buffer Underrun 2021/02/21 00:33:15 (permalink)
I'm having a similar issue. I switched my nu audio card to another pc. Old pc had a b350f strix, r5 1600,r9 290 trix, evga 650 white psu. I didn't have any problem with the audio card in that setup, it was used with hd58x and an Aiyima ao7 + elac b6.2 setup. Problems like audio/video microstutter started when i moved the r9 290 and the nu audio card to a ga z270x gaming 7 , i3 8350k (coffee lake microcode added to latest bios manually), 550w evag psu, HTPC. Disabled C state in bios. When playing games or watching certain videos stream on certain app i get a/v microstutter. I think it's related to gpu/video streaming (or network?). I already tried a pcie lan card(disable onboard lan) , 14$ ugreen one, and it didn't change anything. I don't have audio stutter while downloading in the background and playing music with foobar, only streaming video or any else that uses Gpu.Another thing is I get more emi than I'd like when gpu is on full load, but my smsl sk10 suffered the same thing connected to the yellow usb port. Some things I've done to work around the microstutter is I use Microsoft edge or the Brave browser since strangely enough, I don't experience any problems while using those browsers and streaming videos. Most problems happen on Firefox. My home theater setup consists of :elac f6.2, elac 3030, hypex nc252mp. Another thing to note is i use a fio D03K connect to my tv, to transmit analog audio into the line in on evga card (since the evga doesn't have a toslink input like the soundblaster zxr) ; but don't notice any effects with it connected or not for pc playback. Edit: I'm on windows 1903 and it looks like it has gotten worse. I don't know why it acting up. Whenever i launch serious sam 4 or mass effect 1, the game crash if there is an "audio stutter".
Furthermore , if i used foobar with nu audio's asio, i cant even get to the title screen without a stutter Crash to Desktop. Still have microstutter on a variety of web browsers, Microsoft original edge suffers the least. Also, now I occasionally stutter with Foobar Asio with nothing else running! I also get popping when notifications pop up or occasionallywwhen I start programs.
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OS Name    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Version    10.0.18362 Build 18362
Processor    AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core Processor, 3825 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date    American Megatrends Inc. 5008, 6/20/2019
SMBIOS Version    3.1
Embedded Controller Version    255.255
BIOS Mode    UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
BaseBoard Product    ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING
BaseBoard Version    Rev X.0x
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