Hi everyone, We have an update regarding the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA (24G-P5-3987-KR). If you have this specific card and are using the XOC BIOS BETA update and not seeing ideal overclocking results please send an email to 3090OC@evga.com for more details. Please make sure your card is registered first, and if you have screenshots of your max wattage under load and list of applications/games used this will help as well when emailing. Thanks,EVGA
EVGA_JacobFHi everyone, We have an update regarding the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA (24G-P5-3987-KR). If you have this specific card and are using the XOC BIOS BETA update and not seeing ideal overclocking results please send an email to 3090OC@evga.com for more details. Please make sure your card is registered first, and if you have screenshots of your max wattage under load and list of applications/games used this will help as well when emailing. Thanks,EVGA
TheNaitsyrkhyuiopHi folks, could some kind soul please point me towards how I test / demonstrate the power balance issue? 3090 FTW3 non ultra here.Open GPU-Z and run Heaven 4 whilst power and voltage sliders in MSI Afterburner are cranked to 100% and beyond. Then see total GPU power usage in GPU-Z sensors page.I tried to benchmark my PC in TimeSpy my 10980XE at 5.2Ghz is getting almost 20000 CPU score which is a lot higher than TEC cooled 10900K by about 2000 points but GPU (FTW3 Ultra 3090) is pulling me down. If it could use all the power and stabilise it's clocks I'd been much much higher in the table.
hyuiopHi folks, could some kind soul please point me towards how I test / demonstrate the power balance issue? 3090 FTW3 non ultra here.
lordkahlessJust fyi I sent the requested information in to the email about my 3090 power draw issues and the response is only to ascertain if an RMA is warranted. It is not to be able to get a new better BIOS.
arestavolordkahlessJust fyi I sent the requested information in to the email about my 3090 power draw issues and the response is only to ascertain if an RMA is warranted. It is not to be able to get a new better BIOS.Well, at least there is an official acknowledgement that it is an issue. Thanks for sharing!
lordkahlessThe email also states too that an RMA replacement may not fix the issue. Said they make no guarantees. And we are only allowed one free RMA replacement for this specific issue. So an RMA may be a waste of time.
• There are NO other benefits that should be expected by replacing your card. • The new replacement card will already have the XOC BIOS applied to the secondary BIOS position.• There are no expected changes or improvements to the stock running speed, boost clock, or stock overclocking on the default BIOS.
lobstarlordkahlessThe email also states too that an RMA replacement may not fix the issue. Said they make no guarantees. And we are only allowed one free RMA replacement for this specific issue. So an RMA may be a waste of time.I interpret this as them stating your OC results aren't guaranteed however they recognize the issue we experience is related to power delivery. EVGA has never (to my knowledge) guaranteed a specific level of performance like boost clocks or the like but do expect the cards to operate within their power scope as it pertains to the relevant bios. • There are NO other benefits that should be expected by replacing your card. • The new replacement card will already have the XOC BIOS applied to the secondary BIOS position.• There are no expected changes or improvements to the stock running speed, boost clock, or stock overclocking on the default BIOS. Edit: Emphasis added by me.
TheNaitsyrkCMDRZODYeah at idle I'm around 28C as well. This was using the 1000 watt kingpin bios set to 540 watt. My card hits voltage limit at 500 watt. With the XOC 500 watt bios I usually sit around 450 watt usage. I went back to the XOC bios as the Kingpin 1kw bios does not play nice with the nicehash miner. But my one is 28C when it's fully loaded...
CMDRZODYeah at idle I'm around 28C as well. This was using the 1000 watt kingpin bios set to 540 watt. My card hits voltage limit at 500 watt. With the XOC 500 watt bios I usually sit around 450 watt usage. I went back to the XOC bios as the Kingpin 1kw bios does not play nice with the nicehash miner.
hyuiopOK so to summarize, the power balance issue is revealed in one of two ways:.... Anything else?What sort of power delivery spread would we expect to see?
hyuiopThanks, so now for the next question. Why would my FTW3 not accept the XOC bios here? FTW3 GA102-300Video Chipset Revision: A1Hardware ID:PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2204&SUBSYS_39873842&REV_A1Bios Version: 94.02.26.48.16 NVIDIA Firmware Update UtilityVersion 5.667.0Copyright (C) 2018-2020, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved. The display may go *BLANK* on and off for up to 6 seconds or more during access to the EEPROM depending on your display adapter and output device, it will begin in about 3 seconds.No display adapters were found that are compatible with this update.Press any key to exit...
hyuiopTheNaitsyrkhyuiopHi folks, could some kind soul please point me towards how I test / demonstrate the power balance issue? 3090 FTW3 non ultra here.Open GPU-Z and run Heaven 4 whilst power and voltage sliders in MSI Afterburner are cranked to 100% and beyond. Then see total GPU power usage in GPU-Z sensors page.I tried to benchmark my PC in TimeSpy my 10980XE at 5.2Ghz is getting almost 20000 CPU score which is a lot higher than TEC cooled 10900K by about 2000 points but GPU (FTW3 Ultra 3090) is pulling me down. If it could use all the power and stabilise it's clocks I'd been much much higher in the table.Copy that.Here are the results from 15 - 20 min averages: Are we seeing the issue here or do I need to install a 500W bios to really see it? (Ran out of image upload quota for the rest of the sensor pics) FTW3 GA102-300Video Chipset Revision: A1Hardware ID:PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2204&SUBSYS_39873842&REV_A1Bios Version: 94.02.26.48.16PX1 100%GPU Power: 335.8WGPU PCIe +12V Input Power: 65.1WGPU 8-pin #1 Input Power: 97.6WGPU 8-pin #2 Input Power: 89.3WGPU 9-pin #3 Input Power: 81.5W PX1 107%GPU Power: 345.4WGPU PCIe +12V Input Power: 66.8WGPU 8-pin #1 Input Power: 101.2WGPU 8-pin #2 Input Power: 92.4WGPU 9-pin #3 Input Power: 84.8W Afterburner 100%GPU Power: 376.9WGPU PCIe +12V Input Power: 69.8WGPU 8-pin #1 Input Power: 110.0WGPU 8-pin #2 Input Power: 101.2WGPU 9-pin #3 Input Power: 94.8W Afterburner 107%GPU Power: 400.9WGPU PCIe +12V Input Power: 73.1WGPU 8-pin #1 Input Power: 117.0WGPU 8-pin #2 Input Power: 107.3WGPU 9-pin #3 Input Power: 104.6W
CMDRZODTheNaitsyrkCMDRZODYeah at idle I'm around 28C as well. This was using the 1000 watt kingpin bios set to 540 watt. My card hits voltage limit at 500 watt. With the XOC 500 watt bios I usually sit around 450 watt usage. I went back to the XOC bios as the Kingpin 1kw bios does not play nice with the nicehash miner. But my one is 28C when it's fully loaded...Huh are you using a chiller along with liquid metal paste? Not sure how 28C is possible at full load ~500W without exotic cooling.
TheNaitsyrkhyuiopThanks, so now for the next question. Why would my FTW3 not accept the XOC bios here? FTW3 GA102-300Video Chipset Revision: A1Hardware ID:PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2204&SUBSYS_39873842&REV_A1Bios Version: 94.02.26.48.16 NVIDIA Firmware Update UtilityVersion 5.667.0Copyright (C) 2018-2020, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved. The display may go *BLANK* on and off for up to 6 seconds or more during access to the EEPROM depending on your display adapter and output device, it will begin in about 3 seconds.No display adapters were found that are compatible with this update.Press any key to exit...It needs to be FTW3 Ultra.
hyuiopTheNaitsyrkhyuiopThanks, so now for the next question. Why would my FTW3 not accept the XOC bios here?FTW3 GA102-300Video Chipset Revision: A1Hardware ID:PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2204&SUBSYS_39873842&REV_A1Bios Version: 94.02.26.48.16NVIDIA Firmware Update UtilityVersion 5.667.0Copyright (C) 2018-2020, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved. The display may go *BLANK* on and off for up to 6 seconds or more during access to the EEPROM depending on your display adapter and output device, it will begin in about 3 seconds.No display adapters were found that are compatible with this update.Press any key to exit...It needs to be FTW3 Ultra.I had seen that but was trying not to believe that even those labeled 'non' Ultra were included.Any other 500W bios recommended at TechPowerUp for the vanilla FTW3?
TheNaitsyrkhyuiopThanks, so now for the next question. Why would my FTW3 not accept the XOC bios here?FTW3 GA102-300Video Chipset Revision: A1Hardware ID:PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2204&SUBSYS_39873842&REV_A1Bios Version: 94.02.26.48.16NVIDIA Firmware Update UtilityVersion 5.667.0Copyright (C) 2018-2020, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved. The display may go *BLANK* on and off for up to 6 seconds or more during access to the EEPROM depending on your display adapter and output device, it will begin in about 3 seconds.No display adapters were found that are compatible with this update.Press any key to exit...It needs to be FTW3 Ultra.
hyuiopThanks, so now for the next question. Why would my FTW3 not accept the XOC bios here?FTW3 GA102-300Video Chipset Revision: A1Hardware ID:PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2204&SUBSYS_39873842&REV_A1Bios Version: 94.02.26.48.16NVIDIA Firmware Update UtilityVersion 5.667.0Copyright (C) 2018-2020, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved. The display may go *BLANK* on and off for up to 6 seconds or more during access to the EEPROM depending on your display adapter and output device, it will begin in about 3 seconds.No display adapters were found that are compatible with this update.Press any key to exit...