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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:18:10
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Didn’t see any made in on the box for my card. Ended up looking at the PCIE fingers. Front side said rev and the back side said the made in.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:20:07
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Ah so 2014 is taiwan? Count me in for that too
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:34:37
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Taiwan for me. 449w max on XOC bios. Check back through this thread from day 1 onward if needing further evidence of mine showing worse performance than stock bios. I think we require more evidence of 'working China' boards to draw a consensus, but we're nearing enough from the 'not working Taiwan' column.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:37:23
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arcky
Taiwan for me. 449w max on XOC bios. Check back through this thread from day 1 onward if needing further evidence of mine showing worse performance than stock bios. I think we require more evidence of 'working China' boards to draw a consensus, but we're nearing enough from the 'not working Taiwan' column.
I have 2 confirmed with video proof China cards are working with 1 more on the way from EVGA, will see if its another China board. Here is a pic of the sticker and the location on the box. https://postimg.cc/LgZwK1FS 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:40:13
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Screw it. I'm just flashing stock OC from the first page and just living with it. I'm not going to break any OC records anyway. Literarily spent more time reading this thread than enjoying the pc. If some updated bios comes out ill try a flash, until then time to do some sim racing. Which is why I git the card in the first place. Lol
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:46:10
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Yah Notchy your results are certainly convincing, I’m just saying it’d also be nice to have some of the other folks who chimed in on the previous 100 pages saying theirs were working to provide where their cards were manufactured as well
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:47:35
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On my box its write made in Taiwan, better from Taiwan or China ?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:47:59
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:48:29
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Taiwan here. Infrequent short black screens, unable to replicate though, just random. BIOS wasn't hitting 500W on XOC. No black screens today but I had CoD crash at the end of a Zombie round with some error that looked to be a problem with the game not the card.
post edited by Nereus - 2020/11/21 14:52:05
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:48:44
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digitalmonk
Screw it. I'm just flashing stock OC from the first page and just living with it. I'm not going to break any OC records anyway. Literarily spent more time reading this thread than enjoying the pc. If some updated bios comes out ill try a flash, until then time to do some sim racing. Which is why I git the card in the first place. Lol
I initiated an RMA, if other cards are easily doing this 500 w BIOS, as notchy can verify, then I consider something to be defective with my card. Didn’t spend that kind of money to have an inferior product than someone who bought the same item (I’m talking build quality, not silicon lottery).
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:51:42
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changboy
On my box its write made in Taiwan, better from Taiwan or China ?
China boards seem to take this 500W bios perfectly fine.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:52:46
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digitalmonk
Screw it. I'm just flashing stock OC from the first page and just living with it. I'm not going to break any OC records anyway. Literarily spent more time reading this thread than enjoying the pc. If some updated bios comes out ill try a flash, until then time to do some sim racing. Which is why I git the card in the first place. Lol
I initiated an RMA, if other cards are easily doing this 500 w BIOS, as notchy can verify, then I consider something to be defective with my card. Didn’t spend that kind of money to have an inferior product than someone who bought the same item (I’m talking build quality, not silicon lottery).
Let us know what EVGA says! Maybe links this tread as a reference. They are 100% reading my post as 4 of my comments have been review and approved by admins on this forum.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:56:19
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Notchy44
Let us know what EVGA says! Maybe links this tread as a reference. They are 100% reading my post as 4 of my comments have been review and approved by admins on this forum.
Forum Mods are not EVGA employees, so don't count on EVGA reading your posts.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:57:26
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Maybe just the cardboard box is made in Taiwan but all card are from China 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:58:44
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digitalmonk
Screw it. I'm just flashing stock OC from the first page and just living with it. I'm not going to break any OC records anyway. Literarily spent more time reading this thread than enjoying the pc. If some updated bios comes out ill try a flash, until then time to do some sim racing. Which is why I git the card in the first place. Lol
I initiated an RMA, if other cards are easily doing this 500 w BIOS, as notchy can verify, then I consider something to be defective with my card. Didn’t spend that kind of money to have an inferior product than someone who bought the same item (I’m talking build quality, not silicon lottery).
Let us know what EVGA says! Maybe links this tread as a reference. They are 100% reading my post as 4 of my comments have been review and approved by admins on this forum.
Rep tried to tell me that cards are made in Taiwan sent to China and packaged in USA... I’m like ok well it says made in Taiwan in my box and made in China on another, I described the issue. He wasn’t able to tell me much else, but I just told him how I see it: large percentage of cards can perform at a certain spec large number can’t, that’s not fair to the consumer, outside of silicon lottery/memory oc there should be zero performance differences on the same sku, I consider my unit defective. They are currently processing the RMA, it’ll be Tuesday/Wednesday before I can ship it maybe they’ll get their hands on it and see what’s really good with the problems everyone has, I’m 2014 Taiwan rev .1 as well
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 14:58:56
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I guess the followup question would be what's the difference between the Chinese and Taiwanese cards? Are the China cards using better capacitors somewhere?
If the components are the same then this is either some sort of placebo affect or possibly silicon lottery coming into play.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:01:20
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Nereus
Notchy44
Let us know what EVGA says! Maybe links this tread as a reference. They are 100% reading my post as 4 of my comments have been review and approved by admins on this forum.
Forum Mods are not EVGA employees, so don't count on EVGA reading your posts.
Yes they are, the admin for this forum picked up the phone for tech support yesterday and we spoke at length about this, non employees don’t answer the phone for technical support
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rgarodnick
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:03:53
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Interesting data so far. My buddy also has a china board and his clocks to 500w without a problem yet my taiwan board can't
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:05:53
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Yea me and notchy with a few others isolated all the variables and that’s the only difference Taiwan vs. China we need more China boards for confirmation but it certainly looks to be the key.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:06:04
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Jarmel
I guess the followup question would be what's the difference between the Chinese and Taiwanese cards? Are the China cards using better capacitors somewhere?
If the components are the same then this is either some sort of placebo affect or possibly silicon lottery coming into play.
Im thinking the silicon Lottery has little effect on the difference of 420 watt avg to 500 watt avg. If they do have 2 factories making cards a simple change of caps or shunts COULD be the issues from the Taiwanese cards.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:07:50
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rgarodnick
Interesting data so far. My buddy also has a china board and his clocks to 500w without a problem yet my taiwan board can't
OK so we have 3 confirmed China boards working and 7+ Taiwanese boards not working
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:09:51
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rgarodnick
Interesting data so far. My buddy also has a china board and his clocks to 500w without a problem yet my taiwan board can't
OK so we have 3 confirmed China boards working and 7+ Taiwanese boards not working
Correct, and if EVGA is paying attention on here, they’ll have a sample of a defective Taiwanese board next week when I ship mine back them for RMA edit: clarity
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:10:59
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rgarodnick
Interesting data so far. My buddy also has a china board and his clocks to 500w without a problem yet my taiwan board can't
OK so we have 3 confirmed China boards working and 7+ Taiwanese boards not working
Correct, and if EVGA is paying attention on here, they’ll have a sample of a defective Taiwanese board next week when I ship mine back them for RMA edit: clarity
Damn what a past few days ehh. Finally getting some results in. No way they can ignore this now.
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rgarodnick
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:11:42
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After one RMA I doubt evga will humor me with a "give me a china card please" for a second rma
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:12:01
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Is there any way to check production date? That might be worth tracking too if the Chinese or Taiwanese cards are being produced at different time frames.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:13:27
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rgarodnick
After one RMA I doubt evga will humor me with a "give me a china card please" for a second rma
Hahahaha I wonder if they switched fully to a Chinese factory moving forward? My card came in 2 weeks ago and my friends card was directly from EVGA yesterday with a 1 day shipping. I will see with the 3rd card coming in if its from china (lets hope!!)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:13:45
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That’s not the approach: if those cards do what they are supposed to, and ours do not...they have working cards and ours are defective. Fact.
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rgarodnick
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:14:45
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Well how many times can I realistically make the case with evga that my card is defective? I doubt they'll do an RMA with me over and over and over. Already did it once
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:16:49
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Well how many times can I realistically make the case with evga that my card is defective? I doubt they'll do an RMA with me over and over and over
“After careful examination of my replacement, I have determined that it suffers from the same manufacturing defect and would like a functioning replacement”
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/11/21 15:17:27
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Jarmel
Is there any way to check production date? That might be worth tracking too if the Chinese or Taiwanese cards are being produced at different time frames.
Serial numbers should be sequential - likely two sets, one 2014 for Taiwan and one 2012 for Chinese make. Maybe registering the board for a secondhand warranty will the reveal manufacture date.
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